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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Hahc21 03:45, 9 March 2014 [1].

List of Minnesota state symbols

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Nominator(s): Ruby 2010/2013 04:22, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because, well, I believe it meets the criteria. I've modeled this largely after the featured Oregon list. It is a rather short one (with only 18 entries), so hopefully it won't take long to review. I see a large backlog on this page and will be happy to help clear some of it by jumping into reviewing tomorrow. Any comments here are much appreciated. Ruby 2010/2013 04:22, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:40, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comments mainly minor technical issues...
  • " the Minnesota State Legislature" the article doesn't have "State" in its official name.
  • "Minnesota did not select " a touch anthropomorphic, the State itself doesn't select anything.
  • You have "State Seal" capitalised and "state song" uncapitalised, why the difference?
  • Not sure "Morel" needs to be capitalised.
  • Similarly "Blueberry", "Ice", "White" etc etc.
  • Consider linking poet laureate, probably more in need of a wikilink than, say, "muffin".
  • "Rep." what's that?
  • "Honeycrisp apple" or "Honeycrisp Apple"? Probably the former. Be consistent.
  • "Sen." again, no need for such abbreviations.
  • Last part of the last para in the lead is virtually the same as the second para of "Nicknames and unsuccessful proposals".
  • I've added a bit more to the lead and tweaked it. I tried to summarize the Nicknames and unsuccessful proposals section in just a few sentences, which was difficult to do without boring readers. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 02:39, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:27, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing! I have addressed most of your concerns -- will see what I can do about your last point when I get a chance, probably tomorrow. Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 04:47, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
  • Have to say I'm surprised ice hockey, and not professional wresting, is the state sport. Jesse Ventura missed a trick here.
  • Don't sound too ashamed—as I see it he's the only politician in history to be honest about his intention to "win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat". GRAPPLE X 12:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • With no article to explain it, it might be worth adding a little bit about lester soil. With the image being so tall you could add a line in the description without the table growing any. Just something along the lines of "Lester is a [dense/loose] [loamy/sandy/silty] soil present in approximately sixteen Minnesota counties", or however it actually is.
  • " the "Gopher State", which is inspired from an early political cartoon" -> inspired by. You take inspiration from, but are inspired by.
  • "the most northern state excepting Alaska" -> might flow better as "the most northern of the contiguous United States" (I find that "the most within a defined scope" reads better "the most overall, bar X")
  • The unsuccessful proposals—some of these seem a bit frivolous (not that official soils and muffins aren't...), if there's any particular quirk behind the proposals it might be worth noting (I imagine the Tilt-a-Whirl one may have been a promotional stunt, for example). It's not major but it would help address Rambler's last point about helping the lead and text differ a little more strongly.
  • Yes, many do seem rather frivolous! I've sought to explain wherever possible the significance of particular proposals (unsuccessful and successful), but see that I failed to do so for the vaunted Tilt-a-Whirl. I have now added some more information on it to clarify why it was proposed. If I did the same for the animals, it would make the section rather bloated. Ruby 2010/2013 02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • On a similar note; given the state motto and sport, maybe a mention of the North Stars hockey team taking their name would help too.
  • Not sure I'm keen on centred text in the description cells; totally an aesthetic opinion.
  • "as a signal to the state's dairy industry that Minnesota cares about them" -> wouldn't an industry be an "it"? Could be phrased as "workers in the state's dairy industry" instead to keep the plural.
  • "In 1904 and 1905, Minnesota's state song was written" -> Written in two stages, or should this be phrased as a range?
  • I think this is usually up to editor preference. IMO, it would look a bit odd to only include one link to State of MN but link all mentions of the Star Trib. I've always sought to link all my citations in my articles for consistency's sake (especially if the references list is rather long). Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 20:30, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Dana boomer (talk) 17:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comments -
  • Muffin, link blueberry?
  • Muffin, "where they grow in bogs, hillsides, and forests." One of these things is not like the other... Bogs and forests are habitats - hillsides can be found in either or neither.
  • Soil, link soybeans and corn?
  • Song, "From 1904 to 1905" -> "In 1904 and 1905"?
  • That was the old wording before an above reviewer suggested it be changed. I agreed, since "From 1904 to 1905" seems to indicate that it was written in a range (which it was). Ruby 2010/2013 19:39, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Song, " it served as the school's official song until 1945," Is it still the university's official song?
  • Tree, "It can grow between 60 and 100 feet tall." Please add a conversion for metric readers.

Just a few minor comments; otherwise, it looks to be in great shape. Dana boomer (talk) 17:25, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - tried to find something to nitpick about, but I got nothing. Consider archiving your online references with a site like webcitation.org or web.archive.org so that if the referenced websites change or go down, the list isn't affected. --PresN 06:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks very much for the support. I've archived the two State of MN links that I use the most; most of the others are from Highbeam, which I imagines takes enough care of their links. Ruby 2010/2013 03:56, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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