Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Media Forest most-broadcast songs of 2009 in Romania/archive1

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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 31 July 2020 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Media Forest most-broadcast songs of 2009 in Romania edit

Featured list candidates/List of Media Forest most-broadcast songs of 2009 in Romania/archive1

Nominator(s): Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all required criteria. I have written it in a similar style to List of Romanian Top 100 number ones and List of Airplay 100 number ones of the 2010s, which I have already promoted to FL status. Comments are appreciated :) Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from ChrisTheDude edit

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:25, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*There should be an image in the lead. You could move the Black Eyed Peas picture up there and put a different one next to the radio table.

"has been weekly publishing the top ten most broadcast Romanian and foreign songs on Romanian radio stations and television channels" => "has been publishing the top ten most-broadcast Romanian and foreign songs on Romanian radio stations and television channels on a weekly basis" (note the hyphen needed in most-broadcast to match the title)
"year-end charts in regards to the radio airplay, listing the most broadcast Romanian songs of the respective year integrated with official audience numbers provided by Asociația pentru Radio Audiență (Romanian Association for Audience Numbers)" - I don't understand this bit. Do you mean that the year-end chart is weighted based on how many listeners each station has?

They do some sort of calculations with those audience numbers (for each radio stations), so that they get the total of unique listeners of a song. Any idea on how to rewrite the sentence so that this is clearer to the reader? Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"In that year, around ten singles each" - just give the actual numbers
"have been listed as the most-broadcast ones" => "were listed as most-broadcast"
""I Gotta Feeling" by The Black Eyed Peas" => ""I Gotta Feeling" by the Black Eyed Peas"
"this feat was jointly achieved by Edward Maya and Vika Jigulina's "Stereo Love" and Dan Bălan's "Chica Bomb" with five weeks each" - not true, the latter song spent six weeks at number one

Whoops, this was my mistake. Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"The Black Eyed Peas' (pictured) "I Gotta Feeling"" - no need to say "(pictured)", because obviously it's the Black Eyed Peas pictured given that they are the only people mentioned in the caption
Are there are any independent sources about these charts? Currently literally every reference is from the official site of the organisation that publishes them.

Sadly, I could not find any other sources for 2009. However, there are some for the 2010s article by România Liberă. Media Forest is definitely reliable and also provides data for Airplay 100, Romania's national chart. Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Think that's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude: Thanks for your comments, I have addressed or responded to them. Also I have revised parts of the lead and some image descriptions, I do think they need another check. Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One more comment: "Media Forest also releases year-end charts in regards to the radio airplay, listing the most broadcast Romanian songs of the respective year" - do you mean the most-broadcast songs in Romania, or only the most-broadcast songs by Romanians? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:12, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude: I have reworded it to be clearer. Is it better now? And also -- does anything else need to be fixed? Greets and thanks for the comments; Cartoon network freak (talk) 08:16, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Having looked at the source, I think "weighted by" rather than "ranked by" would be the best wording -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude: Done, thanks. Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:07, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude: Is there anything else that you think requires fixing? Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've just checked ref 7, and it lists two number ones for each week, one Romanian and one international. It might be worth mentioning this in the article and clarifying that the songs listed here are the most-broadcast overall...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude: I have added a sentence to clarify that. Cartoon network freak (talk) 07:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am never a fan of prose saying "this article lists....." - that's pretty much the same as starting with "This is a list of....", which has been deprecated for years. I think it might be better to have a symbol indicating whether the song was Romanian or foreign. You could have an additional couple of rows in the key saying "Song topped the Romanian song listing and was the most-broadcast song overall" and the equivalent for foreign -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude: Thank you for the suggestion, I really think it's a great solution actually. However, I chose to not color the cells for those other key rows since then, the table would be colored all the way and it'd be exhausting to see. Plus, the song of the year is Romanian, so it'd need two colors. I'm aware this list may be a little complicated to understand, so I revised the lead a tiny bit: "Media Forest has been publishing 'four rankings which list' the top ten most-broadcast Romanian and foreign songs on Romanian...". Do you think that is a good solution? Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 13:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Aoba47 edit

I have always been told to avoid using fixed image sizes (i.e. the 200px for the Black Eyed Peas image) so I would remove that.
For this part, (In that year, eight and 11 singles were listed by Media Forest), I would say "In 2009" instead, and I would either represent both numbers through words or numerals, but having a combination of both in one sentence looks rather odd to me.
I agree with ChrisTheDude's most recent comment above.
The break used for the "featuring Nicole Scherzinger" part of the chart looks rather odd to me in some views. Is the break completely necessary for any reason?

Good work with the list. Once everything is addressed, I will support this for promotion. I hope you are having a great weekend so far. Aoba47 (talk) 19:50, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: I think I have addressed everything here. Thanks for the comments; Cartoon network freak (talk) 07:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I support this nomination for promotion. Thank you for addressing everything. I very much appreciate all of the work you have done on Wikipedia about Romanian music. It is very inspiring. I have been quite obsessed with Inna's single "Sober", though I still love listening to the whole Yo album. Sorry as that is off-topic, but just wanted to express that to you. Aoba47 (talk) 18:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: Thank you very much for your comments and the support. I guess I just like Romanian music and rankings ahah. And Inna's releasing a lot of EDM tracks lately, kinda getting back to her roots. There's a new one called "Nobody" that you should definitely check out. All the best to you; Cartoon network freak (talk) 19:27, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the update. It is crazy how much music she is releasing lately, but I've been enjoying it lol. Aoba47 (talk) 19:46, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from MarioSoulTruthFan edit

Resolved comments from MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:37, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*The note should have a source for it, I need to verify such information

David Deejay and Dony reached number one on the 2009 ranking with "So Bizarre". → second paragraph, if in the first you are explaining how the chart works and on the second are the "record breakers" then move it. I do understand this is making a point to the latter sentence.

I agree, but the sentence before that I'm explaining how the year-end charts are made and the fact that they are being released too. I think it's be unnecessary to add the second sentence, mentioning who topped the 2009 year-end chart, into the second paragraph. Cartoon network freak (talk) 19:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But isn't that the point of the second paragraph? Mentioning who spent the most weeks and achived the number one spot? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 10:38, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Is it good now? Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 11:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

respective year weighted → respective year, weighted
radio and television respectively. → radio and television, respectively.

The user before you has done a copyedit and removed the comma here. I guess there's multiple ways to write the sentence, I'll just let it stand the way it stands now. Cartoon network freak (talk) 19:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 10:38, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So the list didn't started in January but around July, right? This should be mentioned in the lead.

Nice job, let me know once you address my comments. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:01, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Thank you so much for the comments, I have addressed them apart from a few exceptions. I'll get to your GA review very soon. Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 19:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:37, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed, promoting. --Pres N 22:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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