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Nominator(s): Kosack (talk) 20:52, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I have worked to improve the article and believe it now meets the FL criteria. I have based the page on my recently promoted List of Wales international footballers page. Look forward to any comments. Kosack (talk) 20:52, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - the only thing I can see is an issue around the use of "all-time". When the words are used in a phrase like "the all-time top goalscorer" then it needs a hyphen, but in something like "the top goalscorer of all time" then it doesn't. Does that make sense........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:09, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think I get what you mean, I've made some amendments to the page to hopefully fix the issue. Thanks for your review. Kosack (talk) 12:04, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The caption on the lead image doesn't need a hyphen.............. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:21, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops, forgot that one was there. Fixed. Kosack (talk) 12:23, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 11:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "Prior to this, Azerbaijani players had represented the Soviet Union national football team. They played their first official international match..." the "They" here could be confused as the last team mentioned is the Soviet national team. - Done
  • Could you add dates when the team formally became members of UEFA and FIFA? - I've included the years, I don't have exact dates though.
  • "233 international matches since their debut, winning 45, drawing 62 and losing 127" I think that adds up to 234? - Done
  • Image captions which are complete sentences need a full stop. - Done
  • I had to look this up - earned is far more common than earnt (although the latter is technically also correct, but it reads REALLY odd to me). - Done
  • "UEFA European Football Championship" drop "Football" from this. - Done
  • "Statistics sourced from: [5][13][14]" remove space. - Done
  • Awkward question: how do we verify the players who are still "current"? In the same way with the Wales list, I don't think it's possible to definitively say who is retired so all active players are classed as still eligible. Luckily the RSSSF list helps to denote who is still playing.
  • Don't use hash for No. - Done
  • And why isn't that column sortable? Again similar to the Wales list, the number and cap columns are essentially sorting the same thing so it seemed unnecessary to have them both sortable.
  • You don't need Azerbaijan national football team as an external link, it's already linked in the lead.- Done
  • What makes eu-football.info RS? Not to say it isn't but I've not seen it before. I'm unsure of the publisher of the site but I know it is used in a number of football articles and WikiProject Football includes it in its recommended links
  • "FIFA recognised match" should be FIFA-recognised, or alternatively, "not a match recognised by FIFA".- Done
  • Avoid spaced hyphens, e.g. ref 5 should use a spaced en-dash in the title, not a spaced hyphen.- Done

The Rambling Man (talk) 09:50, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Thanks very much for the review, I think I've addressed all of the issues above. Let me know what you think. Kosack (talk) 18:13, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from TompaDompa (talk) 13:20, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
*"ended in a 6–3 defeat" – I would add "for Azerbaijan" for clarity.
  • Explain "caps"/"capped" at first appearance.
  • "Winning" caps seems like an odd phrasing to me. I'd be more inclined to say "reach", "obtain", "acquire", "accumulate", or "achieve".
  • Rather than "achieve double figures", I'd say "score 10 or more goals".
  • "If number of caps are equal" – I would add "the" between the first two words.
  • "Statistics correct as of" – I would say "updated" rather than "correct".
  • Instead of having "Statistics sourced from:", I'd move the references to the section heading (i.e. directly following the words "Azerbaijan national team footballers with at least 25 appearances")
  • I think I'd make a bullet list for the three matches that aren't recognized by FIFA. I'm not sure how it would look, but I'm not entirely happy about the way it looks right now for some reason.
  • RSSSF should be in all capital letters.
  • If you're going to use "=" to denote a tie, this needs to be explained in the key. I'd suggest simply removing it (I don't particularly like the way it looks).
  • "Iran U23's" - I think it should just be "Iran U23".
  • Explain the "XI" in "Cyprus XI". I'm assuming it refers to the First XI.

TompaDompa (talk) 19:33, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TompaDompa: Thanks very much for your review, it's much appreciated. I've addressed all of the issues above I believe. I've maintained the use of the = sign in the table as I think it's important to show that the player is in equal standing, especially when the table is sorted in other columns and the order is changed. Kosack (talk) 11:58, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's a fair point. TompaDompa (talk) 13:20, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support Great job. TompaDompa (talk) 13:20, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Source review: All sources are high-quality and reliable. All links are active. I made one small addition because I couldn't find some data in one of the source links. I note that cap counts in the article don't always match those given in the sources because of the three international matches recognized by AFFA and not FIFA, but the article is careful to clarify exactly which matches for which players are not included in the article's statistics. In my judgment, simple subtraction falls under the WP:CALC exception to WP:OR, and I am glad to support this nomination. W559 (talk) 21:45, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. --PresN 02:55, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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