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The list was promoted by Crisco 1492 00:51, 4 July 2015 [1].

Angelina Jolie filmography edit

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Nominator(s): FrankBoy CHITCHAT 22:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This one is about the filmography of American actress Angelina Jolie. I'm aware that this is a second open nomination for me; however, my current nomination has five supports, and no unaddressed comments. Cheers to all reviewers. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 22:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Her television appearances ain't mentioned as I don't think it is important. It's pretty common among film stars to appear in TV shows. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 22:51, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Littlecarmen (talk) 12:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Littlecarmen
  • "Her breakthrough came the following year in HBO's Gia, which depicted the life of the titular model and her career as a result of substance abuse," Her life and career were a result of her substance abuse? Clarify this.
  • "Jolie played a sociopath mental patient in Girl, Interrupted (1999), a film based on Susanna Kaysen's memoir of same name, for which she won a Golden Globe Award" Unlink Golden Globe Award, it's already linked in the paragraph above.
    • Yet both are piped to different links.
  • "The following year, she played an assassin in the commercially successful production Mr. & Mrs. Smith, an action comedy opposite her husband Brad Pitt." They weren't married back then.
  • ref #4: Link PC World.
  • ref #8: Link The Philadelphia Inquirer and add Interstate General Media as publisher.
  • ref #19 and 95: Unlink The Daily Telegraph and Telegraph Media Group.
  • ref #27: Unlink International Business Times and IBT Media.
  • ref #28: Avoid SCREAMING.
  • ref #30: Unlink Entertainment Weekly and Time Inc..
  • ref #32, 88, 97, 98, 99: Unlink The Hollywood Reporter and Prometheus Global Media.
  • ref #36, 38, 46, 59, 75, 81: Unlink The New York Times and The New York Times Company.
  • ref #37, 42, 52, 54, 56, 60, 62, 64, 66, 68, 70, 72, 74, 76, 78, 80, 82, 101: Unlink Box Office Mojo and Amazon.com.
  • ref #40, 44, 47, 48, 49, 51, 61, 65, 67, 69, 71, 73, 77, 83, 87, 89, 91, 93: Unlink AllMovie and Rovi Corporation.
  • ref #43: Unlink The Philadelphia Inquirer.
  • ref #55: Unlink Los Angeles Times and Tribune Publishing.
  • ref #57: Unlink Radio Times and Immediate Media Company.
  • ref #79, 85: Unlink The Guardian and Guardian Media Group.
  • ref #84: Unlink Forbes and Forbes, Inc..
  • ref #92 and 100: Unlink The Huffington Post and AOL.
  • ref #103: Unlink Yahoo! Movies. and Yahoo Inc..

Littlecarmen (talk) 09:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Littlecarmen: I think this has come up before. Overlinking doesn't apply to references and it can indeed be useful to have them all linked as we don't which reference is going to be clicked first. Other than that, I have addressed your other comments. Thanks for reviewing! -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 09:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Is it mentioned anywhere that it doesn't apply to references? I've never heard that before. Littlecarmen (talk) 11:34, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't exactly know about it whether it has a policy or not, but I have seen several FLs do that. This one for instance.
  • The third picture: "Jolie t the Cannes Film Festival in May 2011" You're missing an a. Littlecarmen (talk) 11:34, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Azealia911 talk 14:38, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Azealia911
  • Can anything be done about the copious amounts of N/A templates? I'd suggest either filling them in or blanking them out. I read the N/A template as "Not applicable" and in turn interpret that to mean that the article is telling me said films didn't have a budget at all, as opposed to it not being known. I'd suggest {{Unknown}} if this is the case.
  • The final two music video appearance listings need closing "
  • In the Shark Tale listing, there's a (voice) placed after her role, why is this not replicated in other animated films she's featured in such as the Kung Fu Panda series.
  • The link to Alexander (film) in the main picture is a dablink.
  • The link to Mark Osborne in the Kung Fu Panda listing is a dablink.
  • The link to John Stevenson in the Kung Fu Panda listing is a dablink.

Azealia911 talk 17:38, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Azealia911: Thanks for your comments. Didn't take so much time to fix. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 17:44, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per my comments being addressed, good article. Azealia911 talk 14:38, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Krimuk|90 (talk) 01:48, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Krimuk90
  • Instead of saying "..which made her famous globally", something like "made her a global star" sounds better.
  • "highest-grossing". Hyphen missing.
  • "became the highest grossing opening weekend ever for a film featuring an action heroine". Not sure how it can 'become' an opening weekend. Say that it "had the biggest opening weekend for a film featuring an action heroine".
  • These sentences have little or no continuity, and needs a bit of rephrasing: "Her only screen appearance of 2006 was in the Robert De Niro-directed spy film The Good Shepherd (...) She played the lead in two of the top-grossing thrillers Salt and The Tourist (both 2010).
  • "earned a nomination of the Academy Award for Best Actress" => "earned an Academy Award for Best Actress nomination"
  • The lead says that her first directorial venture is In the Land of Blood and Honey, but the table lists another film before that.
    • Actually that's a documentary. Clarified.
  • It's either USD or US$, not USD$
  • Since you don't have a separate section for television, wouldn't it be better to have a footnote stating which of her roles were in TV films?
    • Not an FN yet I have added a key.
  • This says that the budget of In the Land of Blood and Honey is $13 million.
    • Thank you for the source.
  • Some of her film roles are not sorted by last name, such as Jodie Swearingen, Gina Malacici etc. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 02:03, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Krimuk90: Thank you for reviewing the list. I hope that I have done justice to your comments. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 10:31, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Looks good! But per WP:SLASH, for roles like "Kate Libby / Acid Burn", please add a footnote to specify whether she played a single or dual role in the film. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 01:48, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Quick drive-by comment - the entry for "Hackers" says she played a role called "Falstaff's Boy", but our article on the film says she plays "Kate Libby (a.k.a. Acid Burn)". I've never seen the film - which is correct.......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:07, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from SNUGGUMS
  • Happy to leave input:
  • @SNUGGUMS: Thank you for leaving input. I think I have addressed all of your comments. As for repeating the links in references, this was previously objected by Littlecaremen to whom I replied that there is no harm in it in fact it can be useful as we don't know which one is going to be clicked first. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 10:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good work so far. However, looking through this again, the captions are really repetitive with "Jolie at the _______". It would be better to have more diversity within them. Snuggums (talk / edits) 15:31, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on prose quality; very repetitive, and it discusses films in too much detail. We need to try and keep it more concise. This list has 3721 characters in the lead, for an actress with what is essentially a 20-year career. Look to our lists on people like Laurence Olivier to see how to write about such things concisely; He had a much more lengthy and prolific career than Jolie, but the lead is the same length as the one for this list. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Crisco 1492: Thank you for having a look on it. I agree with you on the length of it. I have removed some of the unnecessary stuff through these revisions. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 12:20, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree on the image yet this one is something related to her films. And since this is a filmography page, I have kept this as the lead image. As for the directorial film, I have rephrased that. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 14:52, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are literally dozens of images of Jolie on commons, including several that show her discussing her work (this one is from 2010, a Salt discussion). I find it difficult to believe that the current lead picture (terrible pose/lighting; more than ten years old) is the most appropriate image for her filmography. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah, that's a valued image and I really like it. I have changed it to that. Don't think there is any better "filmography" image than the current one. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 16:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support — Nice list on one of hollywood's popular contemporary actresses. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 10:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you friends for the kind thoughts and comments. They are, as always, much appreciated. :) -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 11:02, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Cowlibob (talk) 11:04, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
*Please remove the box office and budget columns. I know they have been used previously in older FLs but as per this talk [[2]]. There is consensus not to include them in filmographies.
  • "While still a child" makes it seem that it was a surprise that she started then which isn't really the case as she is the daughter of a notable actor.
  • If she won a Golden Globe award for the television film, what made Gia her breakthrough role. Clarify.
  • Overall the prose is very dry in places with lots of Jolie did this... She received this... Jolie did. It needs a lot more variation in its sentence structure. I'll try and see if I can copyedit it later.
  • Since she has directed only four films this can be incorporated into one film table with the notes section specifying that she directed it.
  • Television films should be in separate section as "Television" because they are television appearances which just happen to be feature length.
  • IMDb said she made a cameo in The Fever (2004). Also missing: Kung Fu Panda Holiday television special, Kung Fu Panda: Secrets of the Masters animated short, Difret (executive producer), Trudell (executive producer), and Confessions of an Action Star (cameo).

Cowlibob (talk) 11:24, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowlibob: Thanks for the comments. I think I have resolved all of the above. I have tweaked the prose to avoid monotony. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 14:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing what you have. As this is for featured content, I would try to find better alternative sources for info referenced by Daily News, The Wrap, Yahoo! Movies, New Tang Dynasty Television, j2 Global. Also any books published by Lulu.com as it's a self-publishing company so anyone one can put their content on it so we don't reference to it. Cowlibob (talk) 21:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cheer Cowlibob. All sorted now. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 11:23, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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