Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Alfred Hitchcock filmography/archive1

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Alfred Hitchcock filmography edit

Featured list candidates/Alfred Hitchcock filmography/archive1

Nominator(s): Cowlibob (talk) 18:13, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Hitchcock is considered one of the greatest filmmakers of all time. Here is a comprehensive rundown of all of his work in film and television. As always look forward to all the constructive comments on how to improve it. Cowlibob (talk) 18:13, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Aoba47

I have made some minors edits (addition of some commas) with these edits. Feel free to revert them if you disagree with them.
Reference 12 is dead and either needs to be archived or replaced with a different source.
The image in the "Television" subsection needs an ALT description. I am also not certain if that image is entirely necessary. The placement of the image has some interference with the gallery (it is cutting through the section) and it doesn't add much to the list as the image at the topic gives the reader an understanding of what Hitchcock looks like and this second image is a little repetitive.
Is the "Gallery" section really necessary? I haven't seen a section like that for other filmographies and I would suggest removing it according to WP:IG as I find it a little shoehorned into the list.

@Cowlibob: Great work with the list. Once my comments are addressed, I will support this nomination. Please ping me when you are finished with my comments. Aoba47 (talk) 04:06, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowlibob: Support: Since the nominator has appeared to have addressed all of my comments, I will support this nomination. Great work with this! Good luck with this list. Aoba47 (talk) 18:57, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Ssven2

"In 1935 Hitchcock directed spy thriller The 39 Steps" — Shouldn't it be "In 1935 Hitchcock directed the spy thriller The 39 Steps"?
You can mention a little bit about how he went around the production code in Notorious (Grant's kissing scene with Bergman).
"The show made him a household name" — Wasn't he famous before that?

@Cowlibob: That's about it from me. Good work on the filmography of my most favourite director. — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 07:43, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ssven2: Thanks for having a look. I think I've fixed the above. He's one of my favourites as well, you could probably make a pretty strong top five Hollywood films of all time just from ones he's directed.Cowlibob (talk) 23:40, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowlibob: I support this nomination. Good luck with your FLC. As for top five Hitchcock films, here it is: Psycho, Vertigo, Rear Window, Notorious and Strangers on a Train. You can even include Rebecca, Dial M for Murder, The Lady Vanishes, North by Northwest and Suspicion too. — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 07:25, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kailash

Is Hitchcock's birth and death date really necessary here? I don't know, just asking.
Dubbed the "Master of Suspense" - by whom? Or you could write something like Popularly known as the "Master of Suspense".
I believe genres don't have to be linked unless they are uncommon terms.
He collaborated with Grace Kelly on three films - we typically don't begin paragraphs with pronouns.
In 1960 he directed Psycho the biggest commercial success of his career - there has to be a comma after Psycho.
In the table I don't think we have to mention if a film was a remake of another. This applies to The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956).
"Murder!" redirects to "Murder! (1930 film)". Was it deliberately linked like that in case the article were to be moved to not include (1930 film) in its title?
In the ref column, the refs must be arranged vertically, not horizontally. They make the table look cleaner that way.
After running Checklinks, I saw that all links were working, while two are classified as "Uncategorized redirects". You may archive references to avoid WP:LINKROT. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:50, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Kailash29792: Thanks for the review. I have sorted the above comments I think. I mention birth and death dates for articles on deceased people as I think it's standard practice for such article. It probably helps to tell the time period they worked in. eg. Laurence Olivier on stage and screen, John Gielgud, roles and awards, and Gene Kelly filmography. Cowlibob (talk) 20:03, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I need not say anymore; this has my Support, and I hope it passes FLC. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:24, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Jimknut (talk) 15:52, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments from Jimknut

Introduction

Only the years of Hitch's birth and death are needed. Save the months and days for the main article on him.
The word "thriller" appears 11 times. Isn't this a little bit of "overkill"?

Filmography

It could be noted that The Blackguard's German title, Die Prinzessin und der Geiger translates into English as "The Princess and the Violinist".
It could be noted that The Pleasure Garden's German title, Irrgarten der Leidenschaft translates into English as "Maze of Passion".
The numerous statements of "uncredited cameo appearance" are extremely monotonous. They are also unnecessary as Hitchcock's cameo appearances are already documented on another page.
How about adding some more interesting notes? Examples: Rebecca won the Academy Award for Best Picture, Hitch was nominated for Best director, Spellbound has a brief color sequence, Dial M For Murder is in 3-D, and (if applicable) what films were filmed in color and widescreen (named the process, such as Technicolor, CinemaScope, etc.)?

Television section

As Hitchcock's television work was all in the United States, the column marked "Channel" should be changed to "Network".
The second listed show, The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, redirects to List of The Alfred Hitchcock Hour episodes.
The series Startime is incorrectly listed as Ford Startime.
It could be noted that the episode of Startime that Hitch directed, " "Incident at a Corner", was his only work for TV that was in color. Jimknut (talk) 20:40, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimknut: Thanks for the comments. I have reduced the number of instances of thriller. Added English translations for the two German co-productions you mentioned. Removed cameo appearances from notes. Added the mention of Dial M being shot in 3D. I have mentioned interesting films in the lead such as Rebecca winning Best Picture, his first sound film Blackmail, his first colour film Rope. Added that "Incident at a Corner" was his only colour production on television. Cowlibob (talk) 10:23, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Looks good. Jimknut (talk) 15:52, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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