Wikipedia:Featured article review/Bobby Eaton/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot (talk) 3:55, 9 July 2022 (UTC) [1].
Bobby Eaton edit
- Notified: User talk:Ldblsatin, User talk:Renamed user a2vv12zt2i, User talk:JimHolden, WikiProject Biography, WikiProject Professional wrestling, talk page notice 2021-06-02
Review section edit
I am nominating this featured article for review because those issues that Hog Farm brought were still not addressed yet. Notes: "Looking at this as part of the ongoing sweeps of older FAs, and I'm seeing some issues here. The material about going missing is uncited/failed verification and should definitely be cited per WP:BLP as possibly controversial. I'm not even sure if it truly warrants a mention. Wrestling-titles is listed at WP:PW/RS as "unproven", does this source meet the high-quality RS requirement for FA? Wrestlingfigs.com is cited at one point (publisher not in citation, its the "Here is a statement from Bobby Eaton" source. Is this RS? Is Solie's Vintage Wrestling RS? Kayfabe Memories does not look like RS, and is listed as unreliable at PW/RS. There is a self-published book cited (the CreateSpace one, CS is a self-publisher). It appears that Archeus Communications has only published books by Gary Will and I can find basically nothing about it online, which makes me wonder if there's really much editorial oversight going on with that source. A number of the book sources also lack page numbers, which is needed for verification. This needs significant work, and a featured article review may be necessary". There are also several unsourced statements. BloatedBun (talk) 07:41, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- What should be stated to be fair to the article is that a defense of the Will source was posted below my notice, and the linked RSN discussion indicates that it is a respected source. So it's a bit unfair to list the whole notice without noting that one of the sources has been strongly defended. My concerns about the various websites remain. Some issues still remain, but with Will & Duncan defensible, it is not in as bad of shape as had first appeared. Hog Farm Talk 14:59, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- And why wasn't McPhail notified? They're still active and are responsible for over 10% of the article's content according to the authorship tool. Hog Farm Talk 15:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I apologize for boldly sending this article to FAR and not being specific. Besides the sourcing, there are several unsourced statements. If this is all resolved, feel free to make your own decisions. BloatedBun (talk) 00:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- And why wasn't McPhail notified? They're still active and are responsible for over 10% of the article's content according to the authorship tool. Hog Farm Talk 15:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- The CreateSpace source meets the criteria for SPS. Mark James is an expert in the field, as noted in this article: [2]. This comes from Slam Wrestling (a reliable source) and explains some of his history in the business, including co-authoring autobiographies of Jerry Jarrett, Dutch Mantel, and Bill Dundee, as well as appearing as an expert on multiple series and documentaries, including WWE's Most Wanted Treasures on A&E. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I replaced the Kayfabe Memories sources. Most of it was replaced with PWInsider, which WP:PW lists as a reliable source. The specific author is Mike Johnson, who Bob Kapur of Slam Wrestling (a reliable source) calls "one of the most credible internet wrestling reporters in the world" ([3]). GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:17, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Also replaced WrestlingFigs source. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:27, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't reviewed fully but there is a need to add citations, I have used cn templates to indicate where. starship.paint (exalt) 08:13, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- There are still cn tags. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:42, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Move to FARC an IP address has added content to this article, but the sources that were added were not of a high-quality. Other sources in the reference section also need to be evaluated and probably removed. Z1720 (talk) 00:55, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Move to FARC, issues unresolved. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:32, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
FARC section edit
- Issues raised in the review section largely concern sourcing. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:17, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist. The WP:LEAD is not. Inconsistent and poorly formatted citations. Absence of page numbers. Prose is borderline (samples: With Mr. Wrestling II and Magnum T.A. splitting up, the Midnight Express needed a new team to defend their newly won title against. ... Cornette had started his own wrestling federation, Smoky Mountain Wrestling (SMW) and welcomed Eaton with open arms. ) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist - concerned about source-text issues here - not seeing "At one point during 1992, the Dangerous Alliance held every title except the WCW World Title, which was held by their main opponent and arch enemy Sting." in the cited source? Hog Farm Talk 02:47, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist No edits to the article or talk page since the above have been raised. I don't think anyone is willing to adopt and approve this article right now. Z1720 (talk) 22:03, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This removal candidate has been delisted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please leave the {{featured article review}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:55, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.