Zmarffy

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Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Signing comments, and how Wikipedia deals with the 'most frequent editor' issue

Hi. I noticed your comments at Talk:Veridia. Wikipedia talk pages are unusual, and we're very understanding that it takes time to learn. It would be helpful if you sign your comments. Just end your comment with four tildes, like this ~~~~. The software automatically converts ~~~~ into the standard name&date signature. You can just click preview to see if you've got the signature working.

Possibly interesting note: If you edit this page you'll see that I had to write <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. The software would have automatically converted ~~~~ into my signature if I didn't protect it with special nowiki tags, chuckle.

I also noticed your comment it seems that article names are arbitrarily decided by the most frequent editor. EDIT: Just how I feel there; that's fine if other people don't think that. Just a little worrisome. I wanted to offer a partial explanation of how we work. In part you are correct that a highly-active-and-persistent-editor can try to bully a page. But we have ways to deal with that. While we do openly allow anyone to edit, we have a mandatory expectation that editors be willing and able to work in an acceptably collaborative fashion. Disagreements are to be resolved by discussion, and editors are expected to respect Policies and Guidelines as well as respecting the Consensus of other editors. You'll find that almost all editors will back down if you can validly cite a Policy, Guideline, or consensus that sufficiently supports your position. If a discussion among involved editors fails to reach a resolution, anyone can open an RFC (Request For Comments) to call in random experienced editors to examine and resolve the issue. That's usually the best solution if someone is trying to bully a page against community norms, or if good editors get stuck in a disagreement. You can find more info at Dispute resolution.

If someone tries to Edit War to get their way, if they refuse to respect the outcome of an RFC, or if they are otherwise disruptive, Administrators can block them from editing or lock the page against edits. Serious problems can be reported at ANI (Administrator's Noticeboard/Incidents) or other appropriate noticeboards. Note: Administrators are "just another editor" who happen to have been elected as trusted to only use admin-buttons the way the community says to use them. If an Administrator is involved in a dispute they don't "outrank" other editors. They are not allowed to use their Admin tools to win by force. (They will probably turn out to be right and probably win the dispute, but only because experience and strong policy-knowledge makes any editor less likely to push a losing argument.) Alsee (talk) 10:15, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

I usually never did because I was under the impression that that bot comes around and does it itself. I know you're supposed to sign; was just too lazy. Looks like it only does on the outer levels. My bad. Zeke Marffy (talk) 22:14, 1 October 2019 (UTC)