User talk:Vaoverland/archive5

Church bus and school bus safety article archived here

There is an article I worked on which was deleted from Wikipedia, but which has many good points and suggestions about church bus safety. It may be found in my archives at : User talk:Vaoverland/archivebussafety

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Jackson & Peaches

I have Bud's book, so let me check that out when I get home. Needs editing help in any event. Hal Jespersen 23:58, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

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A little help with "Ernest W. Marland" - please

Hello Mark: I have recently developed about 30 rolls of slide film from my two most recent cross-America road trips and have a dozen or so rolls of prints to go. I discovered that the last roll of slides [the one in my camera when I got home], I think, included my efforts at Monument Avenue in Richmond. Not developed yet. But here is why I'm contacting you now. One of my big stories for wikipedia, involving perhaps 10 or more articles, half new and half expanded ones, centers around a fellow named E. W. Marland. There already is an articles about him on wikipedia, but it is titled "Ernest W. Marland," which was his name, but he is almost always referred to as EW Marland. So . . . can you change the title of the wikipedia article to EW Marland? thanks Carptrash 16:41, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt action on EW Marland. You run on even better time than the Southern Railroad under Samuel Spencer. I checked out the DC French link [where I had added the "Architectural Sculpture" section some time ago] and realized that some work needs to be done on the "Notable Works" and "Other Works" section. They need to be combined for one thing, then arranged chronologicaly and have all the dates added. Sounds like a nice way to spend an afternoon - soon. Carptrash 18:56, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I look forward to getting your pictures, eeklon at yahoo dot com Einar [ps i got a nice shot taken of me in Washington DC by a refugee from New Orleans that I'll trade you for yours. Carptrash 17:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

re: Tri-cities

Mark, I think the question is whether to call this Tri-cities, Virginia or Tri-cities of Greater Richmond. I look to the apartment guides, the census bureau, and other NPOV public/private entities for definition of the tri-cities area as part of Greater Richmond. GRTC is running an express line to Petersburg now. The local apartment guides for greater Richmond area have a section for the tri-cities. The census bureau defines Richmond and Petersburg as being within one MSA. Obviously, the GRPVA people would consider the area to be a part of Greater Richmond. If there emerges another Tri-cities area in Virginia we can disambig to Tri-cities of Greater Richmond and Tri-cities in Virginia besides the one near Richmond etc. etc. if need be. What I am saying is the article is aptly named for now. Good job! MPS 15:10, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

3-cities part 2

That's funny. Check the history of that page and and you'll see that I put the dab there last week. This means that we can pretty rename it to anything that passes the common sense test. PS don't forget to vote on my first ever Afd -- Appomattox Basin. Just reducing redundancy. MPS 20:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Towels

I watch SJ pretty closely, but you beat me to that one. I currently have 842 files in my Watchlist and they're almost all ACW-related, so I get to see a lot of editing/defacing. Hal Jespersen 01:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)c

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Permission

I request and give you permission to make a talkbox for my page and post it. Also, thanks for all of your good work on WV-related articles, despite the fact that we told Richmond to take a hike back in 1863 :) Youngamerican 19:58, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Youngamerican 21:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

You are welcome. Vaoverland 23:06, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

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Hi Mark, would you be able to update DYK next week?I'm going to be away at a conference.--nixie 22:42, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

More, . . . . please ?

Hi Mark: Would you check out something for me? I'm working on Robert Mills - the architect - in Richmond, and when I pull him up in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mills_%28architect%29 I never get the pictures. Now I have probably the slowest upload/download left on the planet - but even when the page has stopped loading I am not getting the pictures. any thoughts?? later, dude - Carptrash 16:25, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

thanks for your thoughts on the images. Makes sense. i picked up my roll of richmond pictures in Taos yesterday and will d be doing some Monument Avenue stuff shortly. Since I was there for only one run down MA not all the shots are great - that is to say, some are best taken in the AM and others in the PM etc, but I think that they'll be good enough. I also picked up two John Russell Pope's in Richmond and a Caspar Buberl. some Thomas Crawford, Randolph Rogers and Robert Mills. However likely my wife's plans for the day will trump mine, but we'll see. Life is full. Carptrash 15:52, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

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from eeek

No, I had not seen the Image message, so thanks for directing it my way. I am now in Phoenix with three brothers [after tomorrow] and my folks. I was NOT happy about how my Monument Ave pictures turned out, so won't be posting them right away anyway [ especially since they are now a state away] einar Carptrash 08:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

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DYK images

Hi Vaoverland, I removed Image:ShariLewis&LambchopCast.jpg from Template talk:Did you know yesterday (I think). The image has no license tag, and if it did it would probably be fair use, which we traditionally don't use on the main page.

If you really want to use this image on the mainpage can I suggest that you tag it with an appropriate copyright tag (or get the uploader to tag it) and identify its source. If it's fair use I'd mention this on Template talk.

The current image is a speedy delete candidate (tagged no source for more than seven days). See Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Images.2FMedia reason number four.

--Regards--Duk 17:37, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

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Smithfield contractor

Smithfield has a contractor called QSI that has also participated in unionbusting in 2004. I don't know whether I should add that to this page or a seperate page.

I cannot reply without more information. How's about registering to get a user name (you needn't reveal personal info)? Tell me more about your question, and I will try to assist you in any way I can. Mark Vaoverland 04:32, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

History of Virginia article

I noticed you have done a lot of good work on Virginia history articles including History of Virginia. I'm going to try to move History of Virginia up to featured article status. If you would like to help or if you have any input on what should changed and added to the article, let me know. It would be appreciated.--Bkwillwm 19:01, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike Badge

I found a badge at a Indiana Antique Shop. The Badge said Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike with three numbers in the middle of the badge (like 258) and VA at the bottom of the badge. It looks like a police type badge. Was there ever a Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike Police or law enforcement agency that had a badge like this?

Thanks, David

David, I don't know how rare that badge might be, but it is certainly interesting. I am aware of no police dept for the R-P Turnpike Authority, which went out of existance around 1975, but the toll collectors would probably have worn such a badge. After that date, the toll collectimg work was taken over by state employees. After tolls were finally removed (1992-93?), some of those employees transferred to the Powhite Parkway extension, now operated by VDOT.

Mark Vaoverland 23:00, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

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This one was a PD-US as it was before 1923. I have corrected the tag. Vaoverland 00:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Interstate 73

I notice you said this was "the worst Interstate article I've seen" back in September. I've just finished rewriting and expanding it - what do you think of it now? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 14:47, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

That's part of Interstate 785. My January 1, 1999 copy of the Virginia Route Index (a later edition is online) includes it:

785 - STATE ROUTE: From Route 58/360 in Danville to Route 29 Business in Danville at the Virginia North Carolina State Line overlapping existing Route 29 (proposed)(future corridor).

It also has State Route 895, under construction at the time. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 00:37, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Antietam

I am in one of my first big disputes regarding the Battle of Antietam and whether it is POV. Would you mind looking at the Talk page and give me your opinion of whether I am handling this correctly? Thanks, Hal Jespersen 22:12, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

will do later tonight. Mark. Vaoverland 00:41, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I have read the article and the related text on the talk page. I think you have documented the presentation much better than most WP articles. Regarding possible POV, the article's pros and cons seem balanced as a whole to me. Mark Vaoverland 23:51, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. The guy seems to have quieted down for now. I was getting very frustrated that he was so antagonistic and would not listen to arguments. I was also peeved when he insisted I was being unreasonable by pointing him to reference books and that I had to type the quotations in or he wouldn't believe me. I suppose I could have ignored him, particularly because he was anonymous, but I'm very cognizant of the three-reversion rule and I did not want that POV warning to stand. This arguing is actually more work than writing the articles in the first place. Happy New Year! Hal Jespersen 23:58, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't agree with you more about a strong preference about working on content vs. controversy. I have run into a few extremists and argumentative type WP contributors, and have dropped working on a few articles where such warfare seems to find longevity. Personally, I am pretty neutral on the American Civil War, as it seems to me to have been a national tragedy in some ways that the regional differences weren't resolved more peacefully. I hope you will not be discouraged from your ongoing fine work. Best wishes from the Historic Triangle, Mark. Vaoverland 02:18, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

LInk to taxi disambiguation page

Hi. I'm working on the disambiguation links project, and note your use page has a link to the Taxi page. It looks like it should go to Taxi (TV series). Rather than mutilate your user page I thought I'd draw it to your attention to amend if you see fit. Kcordina 11:01, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Virginia Quote

I have a different favorite Virginia quote:

"Virginians are all snobs, and I like snobs. A snob has to spend so much time being a snob that he has little left to meddle with you." -- William Faulkner

Jkatzen 09:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

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Polydactyl cat

I have a polydactyl cat too. :) — ₀₉₁₈^BRIAN • 2006-01-16 06:20

West Virginia Candidate for US Collaboration of the Week

Hey Vaoverland! I've added West Virginia's main article to the list of candidates for US Collaboration of the Week. It's in much need of reorganization and lacks a lot of information. I was hoping that with some extra exposure and some wiki teamwork we can get the article up to par with other U.S. state articles. Please voice your comments and vote at the US Collaboration page. Thanks! --Caponer 18:38, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

User:64.83.59.54

Mark, please see talk on User talk:Derek.cashman's page. We are nonplussed as to how to block anyone since both of us are noobs at it. User:64.83.59.54 keeps adding linkspam to the Richmond, Virginia article. Peace,MPS 00:47, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

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I need some advice

I have been looking at several articles recently that seem to have a fair amount [ie. too much] cut & paste content, so I have been copying the suspect sentences and googling them and finding matches. What should I do? Just remove what seems suspect and perhaps leave a note on the discussion pages? I started reading through the wikipedia policy but am reluctent to revert an article that has been worked on by a bunch of other good wiki types since the cut & paste occured. I am very reluctant to mess with other's work, but this annoys me and I feel that I should get involved, but am leary about taking the first step. have any thoughts on the subject? Carptrash 07:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

So where do I find "WP copyvio procedure"? Or should I just go in a slash out the offending sentences? The two articles that I found tonight - well one is mostly okay and I have not tried to figure out when and where the other one went astray, but perhaps I will. Carptrash 07:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, this is just what in need. An example and the slight nod from someone I trust. I just posted a picture at Dixon, New Mexico (aka "home") that I am very proud of. Much better than any of my Monument Ave efforts - which I still might post. Carptrash 08:00, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. It took me hours to hike up to that view. i checked and it was 2,000 feet up - or - like climbing the Empire State Building twice. Meanwhile I just emailed the writer who was cut and pasted from - and am curious to get her reaction. The term "wet hen" comes to mind. Carptrash 08:31, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Wilson's Wharf?

Are you sure about the extra battle name you just added? Battle of Totopotomoy Creek is a battle with its own article, May 28. Hal Jespersen 20:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I completely missed that. I was looking at the bottom of the box, not the top! Hal Jespersen 21:42, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. I'm sure poor Fitzhugh was really worried about who Marse Robert was going to pick to replace Jeb. :-) Hal Jespersen 22:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

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Leif J. Sverdrup

Nice article. Hope you like my additions... For more ideas on resources for civil engineer bio articles, see David B. Steinman. Did you search the ASCE site to see if they have info on him? I added the structurae.de link, always a good resource, as well as some other notable structures S&P did. You can reply here if you like, I watch talk pages I start threads on. ++Lar: t/c 15:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I tripped over General Sverdrup while working on Chesapeake Bay-related articles. I am glad to see someone involved with civil engineering working on it. Vaoverland 21:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

(reads user page) You're a trainhead? cool! me too!!!! (TRAINS subscriber since 1970) Trains are actually what I like BEST, but there are so many good users working away on articles here, that they have good coverage, and I like bridges too so decided why not spend some time there. Combining those...See Poughkeepsie Bridge, which is a railway bridge, and one of my first articles here... perhaps you or User:Slambo may be able to clarify the somewhat twisted trail of who owned it and when, I got some hints but don't quite think I have it all right just yet. What I like about WP is that the process of writing a good article helps you learn more about the subject. Your monitor/merrimac/battle of Hampton Roads example is exactly what has happened to a lesser extent with some of mine. Happy editing! ++Lar: t/c 22:12, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Green Spring

I replaced the map. Let me know if that's what you wanted. Hal Jespersen 22:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

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born to explore

Now, why would a reasonably intelligent person such as yourself believe in ADHD? this is interesting. You read the born to explore website? what i would most like you to have read is the first section "what is ad/hd".Personally, I disagree with her choice of name, "born to explore"; I imagine it leaves the wrong impression of it being a rather weak, nonsense theory some idiot dreamed up, like that "hunter in a farmers world" nonsense, or indigo children.(though, make no mistake, I believe "indigo children" bears more credibility than adhd). I am such a strong advocate of the born to explore website because I am a psychologist who disbelieves adhd, and, as you correctly guessed, ( you seem to think i am the person or persons who have been participating in the discussion pages, which is why, I assume, you made the comment; but i am the person who has been vandalising the page recently, and I wont do that again, and who added the born to explore page into the external links) (which, incedentally, you had no reason, albeit its description, to remove)was misdiagnosed as adhd,(as a child),because I was in fact going to write a book on the subject, and I was well on my way into the project, when I came across the website, at which point I gave up, because it described EVERYTHING I had in mind. Get back to me soon, as I wish to discuss this topic with you. PS: Im Australian, so be wary of time difference. PSS: excuse my grammar

OK, in response, here are several items. Here goes:

1. I have no problem with the Born To Explore website or other external links in the article. However, the placement in the article was wrong. ADHD or not, we can expect and require contributor to follow the guidelines. My apology, as I abhor censorship, if that is what my revert accomplished. However, you should have added it under External links, and I should have moved your link there as a better choice of action.

2. If you don't register a free WP User account, please don't be frustrated when other contributors and administrators of Wikipedia get confused. It's not like you have to reveal any personal information to get a User account, because you don't. The project suffers from vandalism and bad faith edits primarily originating from IP addresses, not registered users.

3. I meant it when I said I feel sorry about a misdiagnosis, and I also regret the negative stigma many kids on ADHD meds feel, especially from their peers. This is also true for adults.

4. I was feel I was effectively misdiagnosed by not being diagnosed or counseled correctly by the professionals as a child. My parents and some several teachers got bad advice. A lot of damage and no help was done by (I have to assume) well-meaning but misguided individuals, who told my parents and teachers to treat my inattention and inability to sit still as deliberate defiance, despite any other evidence of anti-social behavior or resentment of authority.

Punishment as if I was an incorrigible delinquent did a lot of emotional harm; brutalization at an institution filled with other teenagers many of whom had criminal and violent backgrounds didn't fix what they thought it would, and it is only the grace of God that I did not simply transform into a violent person or one of criminal intent.

I do understand that misdiagnosis is a risk of attempting to help people and of receiving help. However, spotting the problem and then using the information in a malicious way is worst of all. Several of my teachers spotted my coordination problem, as early as my kindergarten year. No one did anything to help. The only thing I do remember vividly is a teacher calling me the most uncordinated kid in the history of my high school in front of 60 other students. Some kids are uncoordinated. Willpower on my part could not overcome that disability.

5. 30 years later, in 1995, while hospitalized for something else, at age 44, I was formally diagnosed by a psychologist who spent a lot of time with me and conducted a number of tests. He concluded that I have adult attention-deficit disorder (AADD) (93 percentile, whatever that means), as well as mild forms of both an auditory processing disorder and a motor skills disorder.

At his urging, I soon after read Driven To Distraction, which for me was like finding your automobile owners manual in the glove box after driving the first 100,000 miles without it. (I like analogies). Item after item of aspects of my behavior were covered, if not the cause well-explained. I have since read a lot of material and done quite a bit of introspection. Whether or not I have ADHD or it actually exists as currently defined, the current protocols at least give professionals, parents, kids, and adult individuals some options or tools towards living with the problems.

In my career in school transportation (1968-2004), I saw remarkable improvements in the school performance and apparent happiness of kids who have received an ADHD diagnosis, not always with medication. Special school programs in an enlightened setting can help these kids perform in a manner called gifted instead of being the class problem for teachers in a normal setting (as I was). My first contact of that nature was with a small school in Bon Air, Virginia in 1975. The principal, who noted my ability to visualize maps and prepare city-wide bus routes in my head (due to something like a photographic memory) told me you are just like a lot of my kids. She introduced me to six year olds who can real off the names and terms of every U.S. Vice President, for a quick example. She stressed to me that Special Education was not just for mentally retarded anymore, a lesson I embraced, even if my ADD diagnosis was to wait 20 more years. In the 1970s, they were just beginning to realize that the parents of many kids, all previously thought to outgrow the "disorder", often showed some symptoms not unlike those of their kids,. Some parents also shared that realization, leading if I recall correctly to formalization of ADD in adults in the 1980s as a condition.

6. I do not take AADD medications, and got no professional counseling help focused on my AADD (or whatever it is) until very recently.

7. I think working on Wikipedia has helped me learn more about my mental conditions and help me find coping skills (or "workarounds"). For examples, I discovered that using closed captioning on television and spell checkers to correct my frequent typing transposition errors, which resemble dyslexia (but aren't). The free ieSpell program (recommended by other Wikipedians) has proved to be a big help for me in correcting transposition errors as well as spelling in general. When I see misspelling in an existing article, I will often run the ieSpell program, finding it to be quick, easy, and amazingly intuitive in suggesting replacement words.

8. Fortunately, I also have the AADD attribute of hyperfocus, another controversial subject. Working on WP projects at my own pace is ideal for me. When I am "in gear", people say that I get a lot done. Often working one article leads to another (or two, or three). Despite all the problesm in my life which medication might ease, I would forgo it if it cost me the ability to have the hyperfocus state.

9. I do more maintenance work than content editing on subjects in WP for which i do not feel well-qualified, such as the ADHD and related articles. I feel I have especially helped make sure the controversy items in the articles get a hearing. A lot of people who have contributed have divergent opinions and edit accordingly.

10. If I could advise counselors such as many psychologists are these days based upon my current opinions and life experience, I would suggest that options be kept open. We can all agree that there is much still to be learned about our brains and how they impact our behaviors. Work on solutions to take advantage of what is special about each person, and use whatever tools are lawful and work.

Kids these days are a lot more worldly than when I was young, and I think many grown-ups sell them short. They should be able to help participate in some of the decisions about school problems, etc., at an earlier age, and that would relieve some of the stigma many seem to feel or having been tricked or medicated against their will.

Kids understand things like this: Do you want to sit still and can't? Ask any school bus driver: All kids are hyper after Halloween candy. Few kids would deliberately cause their driver to wreck the bus by not hearing an approaching fire truck or train! Right?

So, diet and maybe medication may help get our chemical balances where we want them. It like, if you stay up late, don't be surprised if you are too sleepy the next day to do your best (or even feel good). It should go without saying, but a if a kid wants to be the class problem, I would say the problem may go deeper than ADHD, or too much Halloween candy.

11. You stated "I was in fact going to write a book on the subject, and I was well on my way into the project, when I came across the website, at which point I gave up, because it described EVERYTHING I had in mind."

You didn't solicit my advice, but in all honestly, what reason is that to give up? We need more books to keep learning about this subject. A website misses many potential readers, and like Driven To Distraction for me, the BTE website might hit home for you, but I'll bet you have more to say/add.

I have to go now, and as usual, I have written more than I planned. I hope all of the above is food for thought.

Mark (still Lost in Virginia) Vaoverland 07:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

regarding no 11- i think i should have used better words than give up. it conveys the wrong message. i simply let it go, because id found something better. But your right, i do have a lot more information than that website; but unfortunately the extras woulddnt fijl a bok. i could, however, publish a few articles with my ecwras, and put more effort into adcvocating my views. now ive gotta g 2 bed . its 2pm but i havent sept in 36 hrs......what a day....

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Virginia template

Hi Vaoverland. I noticed that there hasn't been much activity on the Virginia template lately. There hasn't been any discussion on the talk page for about a year now. Is the template complete? Can we add it to the Virginia article? The Virgnia article still has an old, outdated template. Thanks! Monkeyman 13:59, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Bridge/tunnel

Anytime! :-]

Perhaps you might be interested in adding info on recent developments as per this request posted by myself some time ago? //Big Adamsky 10:09, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

images

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Jackson's Mill and Cummins Jackson

I updated those two articles based on Bud Robertson's book. I am not sure that the anecdote regarding the pine knots really belongs in an article about the mill (versus Stonewall's bio article), but I will leave that to you. Hal Jespersen 00:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Gwynn

Also added some details on Gwynn. He may need some Category involving railroads. If you ever need me to scan in some of my bio references on specific ACW generals, let me know and I can email them overnight. Hal Jespersen 01:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Important WikiProject Automobiles Discussion

Hello! As a Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles member, I just thought you might want to input your opinions on an important discussion we're currently having about whether articles regarding similar vehicles should be merged into one or split by brand. If you would like to comment or read further, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles#Articles of Similar Vehicles. Thank you in advance for your thoughts and feedback. Airline 23:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Lewis Adams, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Gurubrahma 18:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

a question in relation to rail systems...

I'm from Fort Wayne, Indiana. I don't know where to begin really, and I don't know what exactly I'm trying to find. Some friends and I have been working on finding what seems to be a forgotten history to Fort Wayne. I don't know if you would consider it an underground tunnel system, an underground subway system, or even the underground railroad.

What I can say is everybody, and I cannot stress everybody enough here, we have talked to have made mention of the fact that somewhere we had heard of this underground system. There have been people who only lived here six months who heard about this same ...legend. On top of all of this, there were reports of loud booms throughout the city at one time, and the only information my friends and I can find are reported as government looking into and nothing further being brought out from it.

I don't know if this is just a hot pursuit of an urban legend, but if you happen to know anything, even in the slightest, it would be a tremendous help.

Much thanks appreciated, Jeremia

PS--if you could contact me at the_day_awaits@hotmail.com, that would be better. I'm not a frequenter to this wikipedia...and I won't be getting to this until later. ...

note reply also sent by email

I think these are two different things.

1. The booms thing seems to come up all over the U.S. and in recent years. I know nothing more. I think "urban legend"fits.

2. However, the Underground Railroad was the name of the huge network of people who helped escaping slaves. Indiana, with many Quakers, was one of the more active states. I think you will enjoy reading at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_Railroad

I don;'t know specifically about Fort Wayne, bus Richmond Indiana (where the Wayne Bus factory was) in Wayne County has the Levi Coffin House, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi_Coffin and I know that area was very active in helping those seeking freedom. And, did you know they are all named for one man General Mad Anthony Wayne? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Wayne

I hope all this is helpful. Mark Vaoverland 23:58, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Lewis Adams

I enjoyed the article on Lewis Adams, thanks! -- Mwalcoff 01:23, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Jackson Ward, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Gurubrahma 16:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Chickahominy River

I have been working on the history section of the Chickahominy River article. I am unclear on several points: Did McClellan retreat toward Harrison's Landing (Berkeley Plantation) or City Point? The latter is of course on the south side of the James, and I speculate General McClellan would not consider it an easy place to reach while being pursued by the rebels. Also, ddin't McClellan's forces establish a supply point on the Pamunkey upstream from West Point, perhaps near White House?

Could you please read over the rest of the history sections, and edit it to bring it up to your usual level of accuracy? We also have the old miles vs kilometers issue earlier in the article.

BTW, I recently completed a small article about Walter Gwynn's Seaboard and Roanoke Railroad. Cheers. Mark in Historic Triangle. Vaoverland 23:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

By the sheerest of coincidences, I have a major rewrite of the Peninsula Campaign underway today and hope to have it posted by tomorrow. Before I do any editing on the Chickahominy article, you really want to have that much detail regarding the campaign in an article about a river? I would think that a paragraph or two and a pointer to the campaign article would suffice, but that is up to you. In any event, why don't you take a look at that article on Wednesday afternoon and see what you think.

To answer your specific questions, McClellan's retreat during the Seven Days Battles was to Harrison's Landing. He chose that location because the U.S. Navy could provide naval gunfire to support him there. The White House Landing supply base was established just after Battle of Eltham's Landing (or West Point); the battle was May 7, but I do not know the exact date the supply base opened. Hal Jespersen 01:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I updated the page. I decided to leave most of your detail in, since it is more focused on the geography than the regular battle articles are, but I tweaked a few things. The biggest problem I had with the article was your frequent use of the term Unionist, which is not a term I have ever encountered in Civil War literature. Since you are interested in this area, you might take a look at a new article (not written by me): Union Army Balloon Corps. Cheers, Hal Jespersen 22:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Action on DYK medal

Hi, after lots of fits and starts, consensus has emerged that DYK medal is a good idea and a design is being voted on. As a person actively involved in prior discussions, you may want to join in there. TIA, --Gurubrahma 18:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Peninsula

Since I know you're interested in that area, check out my latest: Seven Days Battles. Hal Jespersen 23:17, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

DYK medal for you

This DYK medal goes to Mark for not only his work on DYK but also in initiating the concept of this medal. --Gurubrahma 10:12, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mark, you do great work on DYK and create several articles in a very short period of time. Here is the newly instituted DYK medal for you. --Gurubrahma 10:12, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

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I'm confused about the Andrea Doria edits. To pass "port to port," ships need to turn to starboard, i.e., to the right. Turning to the left, they will pass "starboard to starboard." The rules provide that vessels approaching head on each turn to the right so that they will pass port to port.

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Happy to help with port/left/etc., explanations. Turning to port exposes the starboard side. Turning to starboard exposes the port side. Traditional passing is to keep to the right, i.e., turn to starboard, so that ships pass port to port. Cdory28 09:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The article was recently edited by another user. Could you review it and see if it is now correct? I am still not sure I have it correctly in my mind! Thanks. Vaoverland 16:45, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I'm pretty sure I'm the other user you mentioned above. What I've read says that the AD turned to starboard(right) for a port-to-port(left sides) meeting, and the Stockholm turned to port(left) for a starboard-to-starboard(right sides) meeting. The AD was heading west and the Stockholm was heading east, so the effect of this was that both ships turned to the north. The effect of this was a narrowing of the margin rather than a broadening of it. I appreciate that it can be difficult for non-mariners to visualize. Try modeling it with a couple of pens or something on your desk to see what effect the turns would have on the situation. -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c 22:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Now I am even more confused. What you describe is exactly opposite of what I understand actually happened. Essentially, both ships had turned southward just before the collision. Perhaps the best indicator was that the westbound Doria was hit on its right side by the bow of the eastbound Stockholm. Mark Vaoverland 04:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I've re-read the timeline, and you are correct--both ships turned to the south. The Doria was in the wrong here by attempting the stbd-stbd meeting. While there was ample room had both ships maintained course, the rules of the road dictate a port-port meeting unless specific arrangements are made to the contrary. I don't know what kind of radio capabilities the two ships had, or indeed what was available at the time, but the rules also state that arrangements are to be made with whistle signals. I also noticed that there's no mention on the page of the Stockholm's radar issues. As I understand it, her bridge crew was on a lower range scale than they thought. The Doria was thus much closer than they realized when they began their turn, which was a contributing factor to their collision. -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c 18:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

• 1. I think we now have the directions correctly.
• 2. they had no ship-to-ship radio contact (and spoke different languages in any event as well)
• 3. The thing about the possible (likely) wrong range setting on the Stockholm's non-illuminated radar range switch arose in the more recent reviews and is mentioned. Although it was clear during his testimony that 3rd mate Carstens in command of the Doria had made either a time or distance error during his testimony and that of his captain during the inquiry after the accident, the issue was not explored further due to the out-of-court settlement. I believe you will find that this theory is included in the article under later investigations.
• 4. There were multiple course adjustments in the hours and minutes before the collision which contributed to the challenge for each ship to determine the course of the other. It would be hard (and perhaps inappropriately judgmental) to say that they would not have collided had neither changed course, and I have yet to read that anywhere. I don't think we have a source to cite, so that comment does not belong in the article.
• BTW, each of the three books, written many years apart, provides some unique perspective, and I am glad to have finally read all three. Thanks for your help and interest. Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia Vaoverland 18:40, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I think things are pretty well fleshed out now too. Here is my source for the timeline I was reading. The webmaster there says he got his info from Collision Course and Saved, along with some additional info from CAPT Meurn at the Merchant Marine Academy. It's my understanding that he was the originator of the radar scale theory. I've heard this incident referred to in the maritime community as a radar-aided collision. After another reading, though, I'm not sure what I think anymore. But like most maritime accidents this was the result of a "symphony of errors," and more cautious action would have gone a long way to preventing this tragedy. -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c 20:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Railway company article

Mark, Check out the new article Railway company. I am surprised that it didn't exist before today. Anyways, I thought you could lend your expertise to it. Peace, MPS 21:06, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

FYI railroad line does not exist either. Everything just links to railroad which I think is inappropriate. MPS 21:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Andrea Doria books - 3 to read

These three books focus on the collision and rescue. I found each to be complimentary reading to the others. Although some information is the same in each, they were written many years apart and benefit from that with regards to doing research or just plain learning at this late date. Here they are in the order they were published. I value them equally, but recommend reading all 3 and in that order:

• Moscow, Alvin (1959). Collision Course. Putnam Publishing Group. ISBN 0448120194. Noted updated version published in 1981.
• Hoffer, William (1982). Saved: the Story of the Andrea Doria-The Greatest Sea Rescue in History. Simon & Schuster. ISBN 0517364905.
• Goldstein, Richard (2003). Desperate Hours: The Epic Rescue Of The Andrea Doria. John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 0471423521.

Vaoverland 18:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Huh? (W&M edit)

What was this about...? -- stillnotelf is invisible 02:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Guess I should have gone to the inauguration, then. The Flat Hat ran an April Fool's day article claiming Scofield (the guy who made the remark) is really 'Scotron', a Martian operative, so I'm not too surprised he'd say stuff like that. I'm going to have to agree with whoever removed it that perhaps the detail is a little too specific for the article. -- stillnotelf is invisible 02:48, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

New article: Gold mining in Virginia

I've noticed you're active on a number of Virginia topics, and so I am seeking your advice. I'd like to write a Wikipedia article on "Gold Mining in Virginia", and I am not sure where to link it in on the Virginia page. Should it go under "Geography"? (Doesn't seem right to me there, though). Since there is, perhaps, one active gold mine left, it doesn't make sense for it to link under industry. Thanks, in advance, for any ideas/suggestions.

Mmoyer 20:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I noticed you edited some of my recent creations re extinct towns, etc... I thought your edits were both appropriate and useful, and I am using them as a model as I move ahead. Any additional advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Virginia gold mining

Mark:

Thanks for the input. I created the article under Virginia gold mining before I saw your message (though I confess to using initcaps, someone else corrected that), so I'll fix the link on the Virginia page. Mmoyer 12:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Spring celebration / Easter (as your preferences and beliefs dictate)

Here's hoping that if the bunny leaves you any beans they're this kind! ++Lar: t/c 15:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Writing Articles

--Willy 22:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC) Hi, you may remember me talking to you a while back. I am new to writing Wikipedia articles and would like to ask you for some assistance. What all do you do when you go to write or expand articles? There are several articles around that I would like to work with but have little knowledge about how to start. Maybe you can help me with that. I would greatly appreciate it if you could. Thank you. Carolactress 17:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Interview?

Hi Mark, This is Carol Scott, a reporter at the Newport News, VA Daily Press. I've noticed that you have written a lot of articles about Virginia history, especially about the Historic Triangle, on Wikipedia and I was wondering if I could interview you about your role as a local online historian. If you're interested, please e-mail me at cscott at dailypress.com. Thanks! Carolactress 17:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for Suggestion

Thank you for telling me about the color scheme of the talk box. I will change it to make it more legible. I have been working to categorize several uncategorized pages on the Uncategorized Pages special page. I like to make sure the site is organized and will help out in any way possible.

Thanks also for telling me about the Daily Press article. I will look for it on Monday in the paper. I, too hope they kept it true and to the point. It is nice that you are able to contribute as much as you do to the site. I enjoy reading your articles, and think they are of high quality. --No1lakersfan

Talk Box, articles

The articles are very interesting, I have come across them before, and enjoy reading them. I feel that the colors I chose for the box are more to my liking, and are easier to read.

I hope to begin soon writing articles in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Virginia Highways area. I hope that I will be able to make quality articles about highways in the state, as that is something that I have interest in. I will also work with articles related to Newport News.

Sincerely yours, --No1lakersfan 22:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

daily press newspaper article

i saw you had quite a nice article in the Daily Press newspaper today (22 may '06) . you should add it to wikipedians in the news. good to see we have a helpful contributor from the 757. keep up the good work. -david cleckley

Thanks, David. I think that is good press fpr the ramp up to Jamestown 2007. It is now listed in Wikipedians In The News. IMHO, the reporter did a nice job. She spent about an hour with us and seemed truly interested in the story as well as my Mom. I believe that both she and the photographer were pleasantly surprised to see Mom perk up and start singing along when I put our favorite mp3 of the "Old Rugged Cross" on the computer audio player. Here is the link to the newspaper article:[1]

Mark Vaoverland 17:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Daily Press article

I liked how they presented the article. It was set up perfectly and seemed to have all good information. I saved it because I like articles about people doing great things for the community. --No1lakersfan 20:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Virginia Highway Articles

I am not sure if you are aware of this, but there is a project about creating articles for Virginia State Highways. You can check it out at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Virginia Highways. I think you might find some useful information there. --No1lakersfan 21:29, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I believe the Virginia_State_Highway_199 format is correct. I am not sure, but that is what I was told at one time to use. I cannot find that anymore but I am working to get the answer. --No1lakersfan 21:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I have been trying to add a route box to the VA 143 page, but it has not worked. I might have to revert the changes if I cannot get it to work right. I will continue trying until it works right. --No1lakersfan 22:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

The naming convention for state highways is still in arbitration at Arbcom. For now, I would use "Virginia State Highway XX", since that is what is on List of Virginia numbered highways. --Northenglish 23:47, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Working with Virginia Highways

Thanks for the compliments. I also thank you for checking behind my work. Occasionally I might make a little mistake, which is easily changeable. I am slowly going to add the boxes to the different pages. It takes time, because I have to go back and make sure the images load correctly. Sometimes I have to adjust the image size to get those route markers to display properly. I hope to have all the routes on the Peninsula upgraded soon, then I will do the Southside. I also have to make route signs, which isn't too terribly difficult, but also takes time since I want them to look realistic.

I am glad that we can work as a team to make this project look nice. --No1lakersfan 02:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

RE: Cyrus Eaton

I would like to discuss some changes to the artical with you. I am his great grandson and I know my grandfather would love to help with this artical. send me a email at jeaton@eatonglobal.com and i will make sure i can help you.

PLEASE NOTE: THIS REPLY ALSO SENT VIA EMAIL

I received your message about the Wikipedia article. I know very little about your relative except the part about being him being the visionary behind the Chessie merger. You will have probably noticed that the current article is flagged for lacking sources of what it does present.

To act on your request, I think it would be helpful if you to could go over the current article with your grandfather and look for:

1. what is well presented 2. what is incorrect, or presented inappropriately 3. what is missing

If your grandfather is not in top shape to do this by reading, you could try to do it verbally with him and take notes.

Ideally, we need some published sources of information and footnote the article. For information sources we don't actually use and cite as sources in the article, we can also add a section called External links to provide readers with URL links to other web sites or books where they can learn more.

I would be glad to try to help, and perhaps learn more myself in the process. If you want to read several biographical articles I have helped with (along with other Wikipedians) about industrialists which ranked as Wikipedia good or featured articles, and get an idea of what might me accomplished, try reading these:

Featured Articles (Wikipedia's best)

Carl_G._Fisher

William_N._Page

Good Articles (Not quite Featured, but some of the best on Wikipedia nevertheless)

Henry_H._Rogers

Henry_M._Flagler

Lastly, go ahead and register as a Wikipedia contributor yourself, and set up a simple user page, so we can communicate that way. It can be pretty simple, but will make it easier to get whatever help we need from others to improve the article you have in mind. I get buried in email, so you'll get me quicker that way as your initial request did. I hope we can do your ancestor justice with a better article than we now have.

Sincerely,

Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia aka User: Vaoverland

Tabb, Virginia

68.13.208.180 13:12, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I am a resident of Tabb, and have been recently expanding on your article. You state that the community was named after Sally Tabb, but I can't find any other source for this (nor any refutation). I am interested in my community's history and would like to research this further. Do you have any other details or citation for this?

I cannot locate the source of that information. That is bad WP work on my part, as apparently I entered it. The family name Tabb dates back to colonial times in the area. I will flag it as citation needed, and perhaps another user will provide a source, or at least our readers will know it may be innaccurate. I will also keep researching, and hopefully, should you find something, you can advise me as well. Sorry about any confusion. Vaoverland 20:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

newspaper article about WP Newport News, James city Virginia

A reporter and photographer from the Daily Press newspaper in Newport News, Virginia came to our home near Williamsburg yesterday afternoon, and interviewed me, and photographed me and Mom for a story on Wikipedia and my work.

The reporter considers me something of a historian on local history and transportation subjects. I explained off the record that my bus company situation is still in litigation, and I didn't want it included in story. (It went belly up in 2004).

Story set to run Monday, May 22 in Spotlight section. Keep your fingers crossed story is complimentary and reasonably accurate. I dont know if this feature is opart of the paper which they publsih online, but I will try to scan the article of it isn't. Hopefully, good press for WP. Thought you would want to know.

Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia, Vaoverland 22:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

News story. Kotepho 08:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

This was a great article! Congrats! --Jimbo Wales 15:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Jimbo posted this on my talk page, but I think it was meant for you. Kotepho 15:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

A CR Barnstar for you!

Have a wee engine! Or perhaps loco in your language? I followed the links in the Signpost article, and was impressed by your reported interview and by our similarities: I'm what we call here a full time carer for my wife, and have taken to spending rather much time on Wikipedia. I tend to follow my interests rather than being an expert on anything, but we did encourage our son in his interest in steam railways when he was young. He's still interested, and has been helping a bit with the restoration of the Maid of the Loch. Anyway, the story reminded me to scan an old snap for the Bo'ness and Kinneil Railway article, and I thought you might like it as a sort of steam barnstar. Well done! ..dave souza, talk 11:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

knights of the golden horseshoe

In the course of browsing over the wiki, I stumbled upon your article on Spotswood's trip. I'm not sure if you're aware of it or not, but there's an interesting sidebar to the "Knights" today:

An annual contest in the West Virginia public school system is held on the subject of West Virginia state history and culture. Last I knew, it was administered to 8th grade students (which corresponds to the required state history class in the 8th grade) on a voluntary basis. I don't remember the exact criteria for determining winners, other than to say that there are about 100 each year. Those winners go the state capitol building in Charleston, where the governor "knights" the winners as "Knights of the Golden Horseshoe" and presents them with a golden horseshoe lapel pin. I believe history teachers are also eligble for the award if they are able to sponsor 10 winners over the course of their careers. I was a winner as a student when I was in school -- the test was incredibly hard (packed with obscure fact questions), certainly harder than any test I've ever studied for, including all my college classes.

While I'm not sure I can add much to what I've written, and you can probably find more information with a Google search, feel free to contact me with any questions at david_fox_wv@hotmail.com. And no, I don't expect you to add to the aforementioned article, given this is kind of tangential :) I just thought you might enjoy some trivia.

David Fox

Thansk, that is interesting, Do you have a published or web source about the program? If so, perhaps we could add a Trivia item to the Knights article. Vaoverland 21:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Old Blandford Church

Greetings from a conference in Richmond. I happened to visit Petersburg today and notice you have an article about Blandford Cemetery, but not Old Blandford Church. Is that on your to-do list? A very interesting place with 15 gorgeous Tiffany windows. I took a photo, but I see now that it didn't frame exactly right, so won't use it on WP. Hal Jespersen 22:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

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Virginia Route 156

I have noticed, whenever I make a reference to Virginia State Highway 156, the link automatically redirects to Benjamin Harrison Memorial Bridge. I bring this up because I saw that you made some additions to that page, and you might be able to help me write an article for Route 156, so that we do not have to have it redirect any longer. Also, if you would like to help me with articles for other state highways in Virginia, that would be great too. I plan on doing a few for some of the ones down here in Newport News and Hampton. If you can add to what I write please do so. --No1lakersfan 20:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Wayne Transette

These are the best answers I can provide. the Wayne Bus Enthusiasts Forum on Yahoo has members with better information than I can recall. But, here is my bets efforts to answer:

• When did Wayne discontinue the Papoose?

about 1971

• When did Wayne discontinue the Transette, and the Transette XT?

Transette was phased out as the Chaperone was introduced, about 1983, I do not recall about XT, but it was earlier I believe (see next item)

• Did Wayne offer the P-chassis with the diesel on the Transette XT?

I don't think so. All the Transette XT chassis were purchased from Winnebago, which had gotten them from Chev/GM and done certain modifications including creating the fiberglass hood and fenders, it was a complicated and unsatisfactory arrangement in search of a chassis for a Transette one row longer, BOTTOM LINE: Chaperone and Chaperone II replaced Transette and Transette XT. The Chaperone II on Ford cutaway was much better product than Transette XT on Chev.Winnebago "P"

• Did the Transette XT look similar to the Blue Bird Mini Bird, Carpenter Cadet, and Thomas Mighty Mite?

The front end fenders and grille sorta looked like a P chassis such as you mentioned. The rest looked like a Transette, which looked like a high headroom Busette

• When did Ward discontinue the Coachette before they became AmTran?

I don't know

• Did Wayne ever offer the Papoose on the P-chassis?

The Dodge chassis was the only one, and production period was brief, as market acceptance was not favorable.

Vaoverland 00:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Virginia State Highways

WikiNazi's killed it --71Demon 01:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Route 50 in VA article

I will get to adding the route box, and if I find anything that should be changed or edited, I will make the appropriate changes. Otherwise, it looks great. --No1lakersfan 12:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I need help (again)

Hello Mark. A well known New Mexico sculptor, Luis Jiménez, just died. I discovered that there was no article on him so am throwing one together. However, there is already a Luis Jiménez article for someone else. So I created Luis Jiménez (sculptor), but am not happy because . . . . well I'd like one of those discombobulation pages that allows one to choose which Luis Jiménez the searcher wanted. The sculptor just died on Tuesday, so is probably being looked for. Can you help? Carptrash 15:23, 17 June 2006 (UTC). Oh yes, I added a Madonna from Arizona, but seem to have lost the roll of film that has the Missouri one. Life.

In some ways tragic and certainly a loss, but he went pretty fast doing what he loved to do - and I guess that this is all any of us can ask for. life is sweet, to be sure. Carptrash 18:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Paul Tudor Jones is from Virginia, his article needs help.

Paul Tudor Jones is another famous person from Virginia, He donated $20 million to University of Virginia. His biographical article need some work Can you help ? Trade2tradewell 20:15, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Paul Tudor Jones article

I would be glad to help out with that article. What all needs to be done with it, and how should I go about doing that? --No1lakersfan 22:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I have found an interview that has a little background info about him, but I have not found much more than that. I will continue looking to see what else there is out there about him. --No1lakersfan 22:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I found a little bit more information, and added some of it to the article. My resources are the last three listed. If you wish, you can visit those sources and find more information. One of them is a magazine, which a librarian found for me. It was tricky finding some good information about this person, but I did the best I can. --No1lakersfan 00:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

MPS and Richmond Navigation box template

I left a message with MPS about the Richmond template, so that he would know about what I did. I am sure that he would appreciate it, since the old design would occasionally have blank white space on pages, which I did not feel was necessary. I am in the process of creating one for the Hampton Roads region that will be similar to the Richmond one. If that works successfully I might try a few other ones. --No1lakersfan 22:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Hampton Roads Region

If you take a look at the Hampton Roads page, I think you will like what I have done with the navigation box. It is located on all the pages listed there, which I picked up from the article you mentioned. I seemed to be a step ahead of you, which is good. I felt that it was the best way to include everyone. --No1lakersfan 02:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I have made the change for Mathews County. If it were ever agreed upon, It would not be very hard for me to add other counties to the listing. However I think it is best to leave it the way it is for now.

I have also received a response from MPS regarding the Richmond listing. They liked it very much, and they appreciated how I decided to make those changes. I believe that it made the site better, and they agree with me. I hope that this will be the beginning of another wiki-friendship. --No1lakersfan 12:08, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

I would like to thank you for awarding me with a barnstar. I enjoy working on the articles that I am able to contribute useful information, because it helps other people learn about the topics better, and helps record pieces of history.

I am sorry that a merit badge was the reason why you were not able to finish becoming an Eagle Scout. I believe the requirements have changed now, meaning that for one of the required merit badges you can choose from Swimming, Hiking or Cycling, and for another you can choose from either Emergency Preparedness or Lifesaving. It gives all Scouts a chance at earning the merit badges they need to meet the required 21.

As for some of the Newport News high schools, I am in the process of getting in contact with the schools to try and do some research about the history and notable facts about the schools. It is a little trickier than I thought it would be, but whatever info I find I will be sure to post it and cite the resources properly.

I am not worried about bats in the barn, as long as they are baseball bats! --No1lakersfan 21:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

ADHD Article

Could your read the Parental Roles section of the ADHD article. I'm too biased to be able to know if it is npov or not. Thanks, --*Kat* 05:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Church Hill Tunnel

Your article, as nice as it is, stands no chance at WP:DYK if you do not appriopriately cite your sources (see also category:citation template). Just wanted to give you a heads up on it. Circeus 18:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hawk's Nest

Someone made some undiscussed page moves, which I tried to circumvent. However, without adminship, I might have messed things up worse than they were. Would you mind checking out the situation and getting things back to normal? Cheers. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 23:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, but I feel that the article Hawk's Nest, West Virginia should be moved back to Hawk's Nest. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 00:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Good point, but the one outside of Ansted is the only one with and apostrophe. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 00:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks good, I trust your judgement. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 00:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Huntington, West Virginia

On an unrelated note, I've been hacking away slowly at the above article. Do you know anything about the transportation history of the city? Cheers. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 00:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Only that it was created as a railroad town as the initial western terminus of Collis P. Huntington's Chesapeake and Ohio Railway in 1871, when it stretched from Richmond to the Ohio River. It became a huge shops center for the railroad, which as we know, expanded east to Newport News (and coal piers) and westerly to eventually reach Cincinatti and Chicago. Named for Collis, who was trying to create a single transcontinental railroad, which still has not been accomplished in the U.S.

Per the GFDL, would you mind adding that paragraph to Huntington, West Virginia? youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 01:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hawk's Nest

I think you migh have missed where I was coming from on the above article. The point wasn't really about preserving systemic bias or ignoring the global aspects of Wikipedia. I really just wanted some discussion before any such move was made and about if a student section at college basketball games was notable enough for inclusion. Sorry about any confusion there. I was never not fine with a move regarding namespace, I just wanted some talk first before we figured out what to dab, what to redirect, what to move, etc. The current set-up, created largely by accident, seems to be pretty good.

Also, thanks for the work on the Huntington article. I've been working on it off and on in order to improve its visual aspects and readability. If there is anything you want me to take a look at, just drop me a line. Cheers. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 12:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Your article, Tsenacommacah, was selected for DYK!

On June 29, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tsenacommacah, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! ++Lar: t/c 17:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm in the process

of moving and don't have any internet connection going, so missed the excitment you caused with Luis Jiménez, - excitment in chez moi, anyway - but thanks. I'm at KLDK now, where ther is www access. I'm djing Omar's dnce party and we are trying to discover the longest song evr to hit #1. American Pie is going to win, but all the 6 & 7 minute tunes give me time to do this sort of thing. Life is good. Carptrash 03:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC) PS McCarther's PArk has got the most call ins so far. People feel that they should be warned when it's coming on. Sort of like the Surgeon General's blurb on smokes.

"I think you did a nice job with this unfortunate artist." ........... Well not so unfortunate. He was doing just fine. doing what he loved and then he was was dead. A bit messy, but not a bad way to go. Carptrash 22:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Your article, Church Hill Tunnel, was selected for DYK!

On June 30, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Church Hill Tunnel, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! ++Lar: t/c 17:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Bernabe & Edward & Linda.jpg

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Thanks for uploading Image:Bernabe & Edward & Linda.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. -SCEhardT 12:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

New John Tesh Radio Show article

I am not sure how familiar you are with John Tesh or his radio show, but I have just completed a new article about the show called the John Tesh Radio Show. I think that you will find it interesting. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 00:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello!

Have come across you several times and wanted to introduce myself-- I'm also interested in Virginia history, so wanted to let you know I exist :-) My family (Trigg) came to Va sometime in the 1650s and didn't leave until the early part of the 1900s. Through them am related to the Byrds, Floyds, etc. Am currently very active in trying to beef up articles on either Virginia politicians or on the Confederate States Navy and most particularly the James River Squadron. Let me know if you need my help! -plange 04:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography July Newsletter

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Final state highway naming conventions debate

Vaoverland, your participation is welcome in the Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll. Please give your input as to the process by 23:59 UTC on August 8.

Regards, Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Virginia State Highway 5

I don't understand this edit. These links are not related to the road. I've started a section at Wikipedia talk:External links#Question about external links to discuss this. --NE2 13:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

James River (Virginia)

You seem to be a primary contributor/editor for the James river entry. It states: "It is the largest river in the United States that remains entirely in a single state.", and in Trivia: "The James River is the longest waterway that is wholly contained in one state (Virginia) in the United States.".

This isn't true: the Trinity and Neches in Texas and the Innoko in Alaska are longer; there may be others, depending on what your definition of "wholly contained" is.

I'm not a parachute editor, so it's your call.

List of photographers known for portraying males erotically

As you had made the list title change, I thought you might be interested in participating in this AfD. You input and/or suggestions regarding a Category title if it should go that direction. Thanks. Doc ♬ talk 12:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that I see that you had just done wiki on a name, but your input would still be appreciated. Doc ♬ talk 12:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks, but the "barnstar" should really go to the Virginia Department of Transportation for making scans of their meeting minutes available. I just awarded them one at Talk:Virginia Department of Transportation. --NE2 04:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On 27 August, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article School bus crossing arm, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

May 2006 newspaper article link broken?

Hi there. While browsing Wikipedia I got sidetracked and stumbled across your user page (by way of the talk page at Wikipedia:Facebook!). I found your story fascinating, especially the mention of a newspaper article in May 2006. Unfortunately, the link doesn't seem to be working for me. Would you know of another copy of the article that is available to read? Thanks. Carcharoth 23:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

State Road naming conventions poll--Part II

We are currently in the second phase of deciding on which naming convention we should use for state roads in Wikipedia. In this phase, the voting is for the naming conventions for the individual states. You have until 23:59 (UTC) September 13 to cast your vote at Wikipedia:State_route_naming_conventions_poll for which format you wish to see used. Thank you for your participation. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 14:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

SR 73

Only the very short piece of Parham Road between US 1 and I-95 is SR 73. See the Virginia Route Index. --NE2 18:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Certain Article

Hi, I'm Ohyeh, and I figured that since you're an administrator, you could help me out with something; there's an article that you've left a discussion comment on, about The Waltons. I'd like to completely revise it and, if worse comes to worse, flag it for deletion. For my reaons, please see the bottom comment in The Waltons disscussion page. I think you'll agree with them once you read the article. Thank you very much.ohyeh 13:13, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Biography Newsletter September 2006

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Virginia September 2006 Newsletter

The September 2006 issue of the Virginia WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. plange 02:11, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Monocacy Junction

Hi. I haven't talked with you in quite a while. Could I ask a favor? We have an agreement among the Civil War guys that Battle of Monocacy Junction should be renamed Battle of Monocacy, but there already is a redirect file of that name. Could you interchange them for us? Thanks. Hal Jespersen 18:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Carl G. Fisher article

Hi there, you said to bring it here if I still had problems with the Carl G. Fisher article. The "article" page for that entry for me, either logged in or not, is the "Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name." error page. (Sobesurfski 17:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC))

I don't get what happened either, I was testing it from a lot of different systems and browsers and page titles during the failure. It seems to have just cured itself though. Thanks for responding, and sorry to waste your time. I just wanted to help you to take care of one of the best articles in Wikipedia. (Sobesurfski 20:39, 20 September 2006 (UTC))

I get to enjoy his creation every day and I really appreciate that there was this whole detailed, well-researched article about him when I went looking. I spend a lot of time on the spot in the water where he used to hold his motor boat races, so I'm working on an article about them to pay you back. Until then here's Rosie the Elephant to hold you over. (Sobesurfski 02:42, 22 September 2006 (UTC))

Archiving my discussion page

Could you give me some guidance as to what I need to do in order to archive my discussion page? I would like to archive what I have there now so I can start with a fresh page in October. I appreciate any help that you are able to give. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 19:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)