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General Motors Transportation Conspiracy - HIT LIST

One of the most interesting sections in Edwin Black's 2006 book Internal Combustion is the long list of cities all over the US where GM claimed it was planning to get rid of streetcars but hadn't got around to (pp. 258-259) In fact the company had already scrapped trams in some of these places. They simply used tactics besides working through National City Lines.

The secret meeting between National City Lines president E. Roy Fitzgerald and Lexington entrepreneur Norman Smith at Herrington Lake KY in 1938 is extremely significant because it happened to be exposed by a fire. Statistically, what are the odds of this, a fire major enough to be covered on page one in a big-city newspaper? It's highly likely that many other secret get-togethers took place which we'll never know about. Lexington and Louisville are two medium-sized cities that can be added to the list of cities where GM orchestrated bus conversions.

SOURCES:

Wilkins, Van; Louisville (1923 to 1945); Motor Coach Age; May-June, 1990; Vol. XLII, Nos. 5-6; West Trenton, NJ; pp. 20-22

Five Chicagoans Injured at Herrington Lake Blaze; Cincinnati Enquirer (Kentucky ed.), March 14, 1938; p. 1.

Norman P. Smith of Lexington Is Bus and Cab Magnate At 35; The (Louisville) Courier-Journal; Apr. 23, 1940; p. 14.

Another example is when GM bus salesman Eddie Crenshaw, two of his salesmen and other NCL reps bought the transit system in Savannah GA in 1945, and finished off the remaining tram lines. Everyone involved was careful to avoid any mention of GM or NCL ties.

SOURCES:

You Can't Get Coaches to Deliver? Buy Yourself a Property; Mass Transportation; Dec. 1945; p. 374

State Approves Transit Line Sale; Savannah Morning News; Dec. 29, 1945; p. 10````

General Motors Streetcar Conspiracy: HIT LIST

Pls note, I changed this only slightly to add what I hope is a proper signature.

One of the most interesting sections in Edwin Black's 2006 book Internal Combustion is the long list of cities all over the US where GM claimed it was planning to get rid of streetcars but hadn't got around to (pp. 258-259) In fact the company had already scrapped trams in some of these places. They simply used tactics besides working through National City Lines.

The secret meeting between National City Lines president E. Roy Fitzgerald and Lexington entrepreneur Norman Smith at Herrington Lake KY in 1938 is extremely significant because it happened to be exposed by a fire. Statistically, what are the odds of this, a fire major enough to be covered on page one in a big-city newspaper? It's highly likely that many other secret get-togethers took place which we'll never know about. Lexington and Louisville are two medium-sized cities that can be added to the list of cities where GM orchestrated bus conversions.

SOURCES:

Wilkins, Van; Louisville (1923 to 1945); Motor Coach Age; May-June, 1990; Vol. XLII, Nos. 5-6; West Trenton, NJ; pp. 20-22

Five Chicagoans Injured at Herrington Lake Blaze; Cincinnati Enquirer (Kentucky ed.), March 14, 1938; p. 1.

Norman P. Smith of Lexington Is Bus and Cab Magnate At 35; The (Louisville) Courier-Journal; Apr. 23, 1940; p. 14.

Another example is when GM bus salesman Eddie Crenshaw, two of his salesmen and other NCL reps bought the transit system in Savannah GA in 1945, and finished off the remaining tram lines. Everyone involved was careful to avoid any mention of GM or NCL ties.

SOURCES:

You Can't Get Coaches to Deliver? Buy Yourself a Property; Mass Transportation; Dec. 1945; p. 374

State Approves Transit Line Sale; Savannah Morning News; Dec. 29, 1945; p. 10Tramfish (talk) 18:02, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

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