User talk:TickleMeister/Archive 1

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Slow down

Please slow down, you are not giving me enough time to answer your questons before reverting to your preferred version. As there has been an object to your edits, can you please restore the previous version so we can discuss your edits in good faith. Thanks, Verbal chat 13:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

There is no need for the article to be in a particular "state" for discussion to take place. Get over your OWN issues please. Go to talk. The editor restoring shit into an article has to justify it, not vice versa. TickleMeister (talk) 13:37, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Your understanding is incorrect. Please also moderate your tone and assume good faith. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 13:48, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

To show good faith you could do one of two things. 1, Revert to the version before your changes and get agreement to make you changes on the talk page (my preference), 2, At the very least, please restore the NPOV tag and then also get consensus for your changes on the talk page. Thanks, Verbal chat 13:50, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you show good faith by not reverting by giving the 'consensus' argument all the time? You have shown zero arguments to support your reverts. And keep this on the article Talk page please, not here. TickleMeister (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Also, I apologise for tagging you with an "Aspartame" warning when it should have read "Aspartame controversy", and mentioned Aspartame in the follow up. The warning is still good, and not an attack - it is meant to prevent you from getting blocked. Verbal chat 13:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

You seem to be in even more danger of being blocked than I. TickleMeister (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I assure you I'm in no danger of being blocked unless I rise to WP:BAIT. Please cool your comments down. The admin on my talk page pointed out an error which I fixed above. Verbal chat 14:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Whoa there

Did you actually warn someone about something from 2 days ago, and that was already dealt with on your talkpage? And you might want to read WP:HARASS - the editor in question has been nothing but polite in trying to deal with the situation: they admitted their error, and are engaging you in polite discussion. You may need a refresher in some of Wikipedia's key policies. Let me know if I can help point you in the right direction. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

No, I warned an edit warring editor to stop attacking me and templating me every day. I suggest you look at Verbal's history to decide if he's a white knight known for polite discussion or not. TickleMeister (talk) 11:39, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry...

about Escape Orbit and Verbal. There's always a bully in every circle (I think). At any rate, I've had my (more than fair) share of martinets and rowdies come running straight for my jugular. WP is big but that shouldn't give its admins the right to feel self-righteous and chuff. The reason I'm telling you this here is because I don't see an E-mail this user link. Cheers.--Strabismus (talk) 05:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Aspartame

Thank you for your efforts and contributions to get the "Aspartame Controversy" and the regular Aspartame article more balanced. I highly recommend that you read the archives of the "Aspartame Controversy" discussions as I and a few others have had hard fought battles, which have many similarities with your current efforts. You can learn a lot from it and can strengthen your arguments. You'll also get a better understanding in the dynamics of disagreement in this article, and the exposed lies of the usual bullies. And there was never any consensus in the article, just conflict. Don't believe a word they say about that. Immortale (talk) 10:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, both you and the commenter above, for the welcome. I used to edit wikipedia a while back, so I know my way around, and I'm a very patient editor who will persist, slowly and gently if I must, until a NPOV is established. I'm going to make these articles my hobby for the next few months, in my spare time. We'll see how it goes. TickleMeister (talk) 13:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, TM - regarding the comment I made on Arthur Hull Hayes a long time ago, unfortunately I don't remember my source. I'm not sure it was a very "reliable" one by modern Wikipedia standards. I do remember that it was long and detailed, and included a lot of history of the specific studies, the approval process, etc. Pretty easy to find articles detailing this stuff on the 'net - here is a NYT article with a little bit of discussion of the same, though it doesn't discuss Hayes stacking juries or anything like that. In any case, this stuff seems to have all been pretty unabashed ram-rodding, so it shouldn't be too hard to find confirmation. Graft | talk 02:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, Graft. TickleMeister (talk) 02:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about my comment. I've struck it out since you had responded, otherwise I'd remove it. I've also collapsed the entire section as inappropriate and disruptive, which was already pointed out. --Ronz (talk) 00:04, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Ajinomoto

Hello! In this edit to Ajinomoto, you added a ref name of "asda" but did not include a source to go with it. Would you please revisit the article and add in the source you intended? Thanks. - Salamurai (talk) 03:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Done, thanks. TickleMeister (talk) 07:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit warring with the POV tag

May I suggest you review WP:3RR.Yobol (talk) 05:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

POV tags, once placed, are not supposed to be removed until there is resolution. Currently there is still a POV problem and a RFC running on one of the issues. TickleMeister (talk) 05:33, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Could you please observe 3RR on Aspartame controversy. Please discuss changes on the talk page. TFD (talk) 04:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I could ask you the same thing, namely not to make mass reversions of cited material for no reason. TickleMeister (talk) 05:41, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Please discuss the content, not the editor

Your comments to Keepcalmandcarryon, Six words, and Ronz are completely inappropriate (though removing content from your own talkpage is of course generally fine). Please resolve your different views on content through sourcing and discussion at the relevant talkpage. Painting a content dispute as a behavioral issue is disruptive and an abuse of the dispute resolution system. Regards, - 2/0 (cont.) 03:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Please also note that I am making this comment as an editor, not as an uninvolved administrator. - 2/0 (cont.) 03:32, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

WTF are you talking about? Keepcalmandcafrryon made a direct personal attack on me, and that's why I warned him. Another editors collapsed his attacking comment. TickleMeister (talk) 04:44, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts

Hello, TickleMeister. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - 2/0 (cont.) 18:08, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a short time to prevent further disruption caused by your engagement in an edit war. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

You're blocking me for restoring my own comments to a Talk page? Comments that opposing editors are removing under a completely BOGUS BLP infringement claim, but refuse to take to the BLPN? I suggest you re-examine your actions. TickleMeister (talk) 03:26, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Aspartame

Hi TM, could I ask you, please, to move Talk:Aspartame controversy/Temp and Talk:Aspartame/Temp to user subpages such as User:Ticklemeister/Aspartame? There's a concern that they're content forks that might be linked to elsewhere, and there's been a request to protect them as a result. Working on drafts in your userspace would alleviate that concern. Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 22:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I can't do it since I'm mysteriously still blocked beyond the 24hrs specified. TickleMeister (talk) 23:39, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

{{Unblock|It seems I'm autoblocked, past the 24 hrs}}

Try now. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 01:19, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. TickleMeister (talk) 01:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Ticklemeister/Aspartame

User:Ticklemeister/Aspartame, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Ticklemeister/Aspartame and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Ticklemeister/Aspartame during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. TickleMeister (talk) 01:24, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. I've actually removed the MfD for your sub-page. Because it's on your own user-area, you can get it speedy-deleted - it's a lot faster and there's no need to vote. I have flagged the page for you; it should be gone within a few hours, depending on how busy the admins are. Matt Deres (talk) 02:07, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Matt. I should have known that. :¬) TickleMeister (talk) 04:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia policies and your user pages

Please read and understand the following policies:

1. WP:BLPTALK
2. WP:Plagiarism
3. WP:UP#COPIES

Please be sure that your user pages come into compliance in a prompt manner.Novangelis (talk) 04:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

If you think there are problems, take it up on the relevant noticeboards. And let me know when you do so that I can put my side. TickleMeister (talk) 05:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

For someone who tries to quote policies all the time, it should be obvious: strip your "list of sources" down to a list of sources with reasonable organizational comments, and place a proper attribution on the material you copied from another wiki. Show progress in a reasonable time frame. Trust me, you do not want this to have to go to a noticeboard.Novangelis (talk) 07:08, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I think you'll find that sources are not as strictly policed on work pages as in article space. And as far as attribution, I have no problem with that. TickleMeister (talk) 09:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Aspartame/Sources

A tag has been placed on Aspartame/Sources requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 10:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case

Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TickleMeister for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. Novangelis (talk) 17:23, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

Please see my conclusion to your sockpuppet case here. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 19:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:TickleMeister/Aspartame sources

User:TickleMeister/Aspartame sources, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:TickleMeister/Aspartame sources and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:TickleMeister/Aspartame sources during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Novangelis (talk) 19:20, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Transcluding navpopups

Did you have any success with this? Wwwhatsup (talk) 03:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Not yet TickleMeister (talk) 05:32, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: COI policy

Please redact all your accusations or inferences of conflict of interest by other editors on Talk:Aspartame. There is a specific noticeboard and they never belong on talk pages.Novangelis (talk) 21:29, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Notification

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Novangelis (talk) 08:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Only warning

This is your last warning; the next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at Talk:Aspartame, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Note - also at Talk:Aspartame. Per my comments at ANI it follows that if WP policy is followed and the article reflects the ratio of reliable sources available then it can not be claimed that editors are biased. Any potential issue with why there is this ratio of references of one viewpoint against another is not Wikipedia's concern, since it is external to the project. Finally, per WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND and WP:NOTTRUTH, your expression of your opinions and claims are disruptive and if continued will result in your being prevented from editing (the topic). You may, of course, continue to civilly discuss and edit the articles within proper WP practice. LessHeard vanU (talk) 14:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Euthanasia and the slippery slope for deletion

The article Euthanasia and the slippery slope is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Euthanasia and the slippery slope until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Corvus cornix_talk 01:27, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Pudendal nerve entrapment

This looks like an interest of yrs. Have a look at my changes. Is this in GA status yet? RxWatch (talk) 09:57, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Notification

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Novangelis (talk) 04:21, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:TickleMeister/Aspartame controversy

User:TickleMeister/Aspartame controversy, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:TickleMeister/Aspartame controversy and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:TickleMeister/Aspartame controversy during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Yobol (talk) 19:17, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:TickleMeister/Aspartame

User:TickleMeister/Aspartame, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:TickleMeister/Aspartame and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:TickleMeister/Aspartame during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Yobol (talk) 19:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC)