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Need For Speed World - closure - offline server - soapbox racerEdit

First, I'm wondering what the Wiki rules are about third party modifications for a game. I seem to recall this was an issue in the case of a third party server made for World of Warcraft, to avoid the monthly fee, and that some references to it were removed, but I don't recall if it was ever in a Wiki article (it is not there now), and I don't know if the third party server is still running. Rcgldr (talk) 02:56, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

@Susmuffin:I have NFS World on my watchlist, and I noted you reverted an edit back to one that is factually incorrect. Early versions of soapbox race world didn't exist until about 2 years after NFS World was shutdown (late 2017), not just "a few months". The edit that you removed correctly noted that early versions of offline servers were running before shutdown. It also correctly noted that player account information could be downloaded, and that some fan sites downloaded all of their members accounts. For example, World Garage forum downloaded player account info for all of it's members, if the member names matched their online names, and also downloaded account info by request. I don't know the details on how this was done, but I have a zip of downloaded accounts, including my own, that work with the offline servers. Most of the post NFS World stuff is posted at elitepvpers forum. Early on, some of this was posted at some Russian forums, but I don't recall the web site names. Prior to soapbox, there were other online servers, which are also mentioned at elitepvpers forum site. Soapbox web site has been "under maintenance" for quite a while, although it still provides a link, and I'm not aware of any currently running servers, although I've never tried any of the online servers. What I've read from various forums and youtube videos, is that servers either reset, or are shutdown, and players have to start over on new servers. I haven't seen any youtube videos made using a soapbox server in the last 6 months or more, leading me to believe that there aren't any servers currently running. Rcgldr (talk) 02:56, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Again, I'm not sure if the post NFS World stuff should be included in the Wiki article, but if it is to be included, the version that you undid was factually correct, while the one you reverted back to is factually incorrect. I'm also finding the standards for "reliable sources" to be inconsistent for Wiki video game articles. Rcgldr (talk) 02:56, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

I removed the remaining content, as it lacked citations. Also, Internet forums are not reliable sources.Susmuffin Talk 14:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
What I meant about Wiki standards for reliable sources for video games is what I see in quite a few video game articles. A lot of the content on certain articles is based on actual game play, so the reader would need to get a copy of the game to verify, an issue that has been brought up in the past in Wiki video games article. Another debated source would be a youtube video of actual game play. In some cases there are developer approved or created guides for those games, which probably should be considered as reliable sources, but not many games have such guides. Then again, I don't see how actual game play is much different than an article about a book or movie that relies on the book or movie itself for a description of the book or movie (such as plot), or a video clip (youtube) from a movie. For comparison, articles about programming algorithms usually rely on industry approved texts or books about the algorithm, rather than the algorithm itself. Rcgldr (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
As for internet forums, what I was referring to was the downloadable content, as opposed to posts about such content. Again, this gets to the issue of using the actual download itself (running it) as a reliable source. Rcgldr (talk) 18:49, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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Hey Susmuffin! I edited some article about a historic monument (Talatal Ghar) to correct grammatical errors and add facts. But you undid it. May i know why? Initially i was a bit upset but i figured out u r a regular wikipedia editor, so u might have some point. Please do clarify.

Talatal gharEdit

Hey! Thanks for ur response. Let me assure u the text was meant to be constructive; being a local i know the info i put in was true to the best of my knowledge. Only citation might be lacking. So u may undo the reversion or allow me to do it. Please let me know if there is any other issue with my edit. Thanks!

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The human body has several organs.

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User:Black DecorumEdit

Hello, Susmuffin,

I declined your speedy deletion tag for this user page. "Not a webhost" is intended for editors who use their user pages for specific purposes, like tracking their fantasy football leagues or writing a blog. This user page just had one sentence on it and it could be that the editor is thinking of writing an article on their user page. Please don't tag user pages unless they have substantial, non-encyclopedic content or if they are being used to promote a person or product. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 23:09, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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Heidi BakerEdit

You wrote: "Hello, and thank you for your recent contribution. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit because I believe the article was better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions."

Your edit seems highly subjective. All I did was to add a comment about one of the quoted sources. As it stands the article relies on a very questionable study to claim that healing works. The comment and reference I added points out several flaws in that study. So in my subjective view your revert of my edit made the article worse.

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A vegetable soup prepared using udon noodles

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Please go to Talk:Adolf Hitler and make your argument that this article shouldn't be in the category "Critics of Judaism". Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:09, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

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