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Requested move
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Can an admin close Talk:Bowsprit_tortoise#Requested_move_15_March_2014 and make the appropriate move if appropriate. An admin is required as the destination articles page exists as a redirect and prevents the move. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 19:51, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Done - now at Angulate tortoise. JohnCD (talk) 20:42, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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Auto Taxobox
Heya Sun,
on some pages the autotaxoboxes have been put in eg Chelydridae that taxonomy is honestly wrong and uninformative. I am thinking the standard taxobox is better at this stage, since the auto one is not preferred for turtles anyway. What you think? Cheers Faendalimas talk 04:42, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- What's wrong with Chelydridae's autotaxobox? The autos are easier when higher taxo changes as you only have to amend once to cascade throughout, but I don't mind either way. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 22:37, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- Well if you follow it through:
- Order: †Procolophonomorpha
- Order: Testudines (=Chelonii)
- Suborder: Cryptodira
- Infraorder: Eucryptodira
- Parvorder: Polycryptodira
- A taxon cannot be in two orders, Procolophonomorpha is an extinct taxon, Eucryptodira & Polycryptodira are only used by workers on fossil taxa, are unnecessary. Not part of living taxa synonymies such as that in the IUCN checklist. Cheers, Faendalimas talk 23:26, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- Have removed the order Procolophonomorpha as likely incorrect; the change affected all the turtle autotaxoboxes. Corrected Polycryptodira as a clade which results in the display of Eucryptodira going. Polycryptodira is left displayed as its logically correct, see classification in Cryptodira article for example. Also Chelydridae has a number of extinct genera so display of Polycryptodira seems to make some sense. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 10:36, 22 April 2014 (UTC).
- A taxon cannot be in two orders, Procolophonomorpha is an extinct taxon, Eucryptodira & Polycryptodira are only used by workers on fossil taxa, are unnecessary. Not part of living taxa synonymies such as that in the IUCN checklist. Cheers, Faendalimas talk 23:26, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
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DEFAULTSORT and Title Case
Hi, Sun Creator. I just made this change. I believe that, even for articles and titles that use sentence case, the DEFAULT sort key uses Initial Caps. This allows them to be sorted properly. See Template talk:DEFAULTSORT#Capitalization in the sort key. Cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- I followed the example here. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 11:49, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Informed User_talk:ErikHaugen#Defaultsort. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 11:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Perhaps there is no single approach to it... -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:19, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Informed User_talk:ErikHaugen#Defaultsort. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 11:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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Padloper's
Heya Sun, made a comment here - Talk:Karoo_Cape_tortoise#Requested_move thought you might want to input. Also been doing significant modifications to the Testudinidae, the latest checklist will be out this weekend also. Cheers, Faendalimas talk 16:40, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- Bizarre amendment of Testudinidae navigation template. I thoroughly disapprove. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 12:46, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- I can see your point on the names, but its missing half the species?? Cheers Faendalimas talk 13:12, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- would you like me to redo it using the artical names then? Faendalimas talk 13:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- hey the new checklist is officially out now:[1] Cheers, Faendalimas talk 14:49, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- Heya Sun the moves for all the padilopers were discussed. On the page where the move request was done. This was one way to get agreement between the people who had been arguing over this for months. Talk:Karoo_Cape_tortoise Faendalimas talk 23:23, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- That move has not closed yet as sufficient time has not yet elapsed. Other moves require a requested move. A reason put forward that its not in the 'Karoo' area doesnt apply to other species in the genus. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 23:38, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- I get that but I looked up the names for all of them, they all have at least two common names up to four, none are acceptable by all. IUCN lists at least two for each species with no preference. This argument has been going on for months between a number of users. I was only involved since the move request came up. I did not attempt to move this page yet for the reasons you state. There was no need for move requests on the others because they were unopposed and actually agreed to by both sides of the argument on every one of those talk pages. I got an admin to do the moves with the exception of one of them. If you want them under common names which one? Padiloper is their names in Africa, very few people outside of Africa have heard of them under any name. Its not a group I have ever been involved with, hence I discussed it at length and came to the conclusion that the best path was the same for the whole genus. Least contention, no more arguing, all common names can be redirects. The South Africans actually take offense to the names that don't use Padiloper. Cheers, Faendalimas talk 23:47, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- That move has not closed yet as sufficient time has not yet elapsed. Other moves require a requested move. A reason put forward that its not in the 'Karoo' area doesnt apply to other species in the genus. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 23:38, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Heya Sun the moves for all the padilopers were discussed. On the page where the move request was done. This was one way to get agreement between the people who had been arguing over this for months. Talk:Karoo_Cape_tortoise Faendalimas talk 23:23, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- hey the new checklist is officially out now:[1] Cheers, Faendalimas talk 14:49, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- would you like me to redo it using the artical names then? Faendalimas talk 13:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- I can see your point on the names, but its missing half the species?? Cheers Faendalimas talk 13:12, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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H.signatus move to scientific name
Dear SunCreator, just a question as to why Homopus signatus is the only one of the Homopus species to have been kept under its common name? As I understood from the discussions over the last few months, the Homopus species were all to be moved to their (less contentious) scientific names? Thanks. S Molteno (talk) 11:07, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
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Image Chelodina expansa
Heya Sun, someone added an image to Chelodina expansa I am not sure of, regarding copyright. Would you have a look please. Cheers, Faendalimas talk 00:05, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- From Sam Fraser-Smith's flickr account with CC by 2.0 license. Seems acceptable, although I'm no expert in this area. What is the concern? Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 18:55, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- its an image from flickr and I was not sure. The image is fine if the licence is ok. I is an expansa. Thanks Faendalimas talk 01:05, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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Cell disruption
Hello. It may interest you that someone called tenofalltrades seems determined to completely delete the "cell disruption" page, to which you previously contributed. Over a 11 minute period in March they deleted ~22,500 words (virtually the entire page), and made no attempt to rebuild the page. Of course, the page was imperfect but I think it was still a useful compendium of information. Now it's pretty much gone.
I've tried to communicate with this person, and then reversed their changes, an effort that has now itself been reversed. I don't have the wiki experience (or the time) to deal with this anymore. So I'm writing to you and several other contributors in case others feel like preserving the page. Thanks a lot Liamloftus (talk) 14:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
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Hello,
I think that your article should include something about how the scapular rami, pectoral girdle made the shell not just the rib and dermal bones. Being a specific does not hurt. Also the article should include where the carapace came from. This will allow the readers to also understand some of the evolution of the turtle shell. The final thing I think your article could possible add to make it better could include a picture of the break down of the shell components. The article ""Homology Of The Enigmatic Nuchal Bone Reveals Novel Reorganization Of The Shoulder Girdle In The Evolution Of The Turtle Shell" written by Lyson, Tyler R., et al. on page 318 includes a great picture.
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