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Norman Josiffe and Terry-Thomas

Okay, so you think that the reference from a national daily that says that NJ's wife was TT's sister is incorrect. What are your grounds for this? Or are you the anon on the Talk page? Deb (talk) 13:08, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, yes, they have got it wrong. The DNB (Dictionary of National Biography) http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-39948?rskey=Syrto8&result=1 correctly shows that nTerry Thomas was married to a Belinda Cunningham, whilst Scott was married to a lady named Myers. They were not sisters. The error comes from the book 'A Very English Scsandal' which erroneously showed Belinda to be 'Sue' Meyrs's sister.

Was there anything to say that neither Belinda nor Sue had been previously married? (Thus Cunningham or Myers could be married names.) Have you checked out the discussion at Talk:Norman Josiffe? Deb (talk) 13:48, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, neither was previously married, Belinda Cunningham was the daughter of Geoffrey Percy Cunningham, and Angela Mary Susan Myers was, according to some sources, the daughter of Henry J. Myers. They are not sisters. There may be some other connection, but the information from the Telegraph is simply wrong.

This editor is not the IP, no.

The Telegraph article (a review of the Penrose book) says that Terry-Thomas was the brother-in-law of Myer's sister (implying that Myer's sister was married to Terry-Thomas's brother). That may be right, but it would be good to get some independent confirmation.

Some of the books say plainly that Josiffe and Terry-Thomas were brothers-in-law. That implies that their wives - Susan Myers and Belinda Cunningham - were sisters. As we know, the women had different fathers (yes, one was Lt Col GP Cunningham, late RA; the other appears to be Captain Philip Edmund Leo Augustine Myers, late Gordons: who calls him "Henry"?).

But who was their mother? Both seem to have mothers called Nell Elizabeth, and her maiden name may be Thompson. So perhaps they were half-sisters? Unless you know different, and have sources to back that up?

Do join in the discussion at Talk:Norman Josiffe. 213.205.240.209 (talk) 19:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, I shall add something to the 'talk' discussion.

You wrote: "I'm not really interested in a reply, just in seeing the Norman Josiffe page reverted to facts, rather than spurious claims based on a novel." The reason your edit was undone was because it did not follow the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view guideline - our most strictly-enforced guideline. Deb (talk) 10:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I left in the existing suggestion that Scott and Thomas were related, and showed a reference to a reliable source which would have mentioned it were it true; surely that balance is what the POV guideline requires. The notion of Terry Thomas being related to Norman Scott interesting, but factually incorrect. There is no reliable source claimed for it. The ultimate source is a novel and I have also given a reference to the biography about Terry Thomas (written with his help, during his lifetime, but published posthumously by his co-author). There is no mention there of Norman Josiffe/Scott as his brother-in-law. There have been all sorts of convoluted attempts to suggest a relationship between the two men - such as perhaps their wive's mothers being half-sisters. This is not the case, Myers mother was Myra O'Callaghan, who was born in Ireland, 1917 (the daughter of John Michael Callaghan and Ellen Mernagh); Cunningham's mother was an Australian Nell Elizabeth Thompson born in 1911 (the daughter of James Ambrose Thompson and Amy Edith Moses). Even if London born Myra and Australian Nell were maternal half-sisters, there is no version of 'sisters-in-law' that makes Terry Thomas related to Norman Josiffe through sisters-in-law. How can a detail in a novel be regarded as a sufficient reference for a Wikipedia article?Saint Michael 2010 (talk) 13:39, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Your contribution speculated on the motivation of those who repeated the statement that you believe to be untrue. To edit here you need to write down the facts as concisely as possible, not wander off into personal opinion. Deb (talk) 12:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok, everybody else was right and I was wrong. I've just had sent through the will of Nell Elizabeth Myers and she talks about her grandson who would have been Diggory Benjamin W. Scott - Norman Scott's son, and her grandsons by Terry Thomas, Timothy and Rupert Stevens. Probate is dated 3rd November 2010, and as that means a will has been published, it is presumably a quotable source for Wikipedia. Off to buy some humble pie now.Saint Michael 2010 (talk) 15:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

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