User talk:Rm994/Archive 1

Verifiability== Just to let you know, your changes were reverted because your source was an illegal upload. While youtube is a great resource for viewers it is not a source allowable on Wikipedia as it is technically illegal to upload scenes from Days of our Lives. Thank you for understanding. If you can find another source, I was unable to, you can return the reverted content. Again, thank you. IrishLass (talk) 13:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Post note: You can also not use geocity fan sites, including Dustin's site. While some believe Dustin to be the ultimate authority, many do not. Regardless, at the end of the day, Dustin is only a fan, not a reliable source per WP:V. IrishLass (talk) 16:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Advice

Just as a friendly note, if you want to prove people wrong about who you are, I'd say just go edit some articles. That would make it rapidly obvious that you're a "real" editor and not a secondary account. Looking at your contribs though, Rm994 (talk · contribs), it seems that you've been focused on little else but KellyAna for the last month. Things are definitely in motion now though, so you don't need to give it so much attention. Just get back to the encyclopedia, and we'll get the rest sorted out.  :) --Elonka 04:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, DAYS is the only show I watch, therefore the only page I really touch. Don't have too much time though, being in grad school. But I REALLY appreciate your advice. And I didn't mean to sound so hateful in my email to you, I was just a little angry about the situation. Thanks again!!! Rm994 (talk) 04:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Then by all means, work on the DAYS articles. There are definitely plenty which need cleanup, especially to have plot summaries trimmed down and real-world sources added: Category:Days of our Lives. Or, just click on "Random article" in the lefthand navigation toolbox a few times. I find that if I do that, and rapidly click through multiple articles, I usually find something that needs fixing within less than a minute. Even if you're just bolding a title or adding a section header, every little bit counts.  :) --Elonka 05:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

You have been cleared by WP:RFCU of having any relationship with KellyAna and/or Irishlass0128 so I will again personally apologize for my suspicions. -- Dougie WII (talk) 21:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm moving this from the mainspace as Dougie WII accidentally posted it to a non-existent article talkpage rather than your user talkpgae. AniMate 22:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Days of our Lives

Hey. I haven't found any other sites for Days "comings and goings" concerning Melanie, let alone for anyone. By the way, who is Melanie and when is she scheduled to appear on the show? Later dude! HabsMTL (talk) 21:32, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey. Someone apparently has not followed the WP rules concerning a name change. That person decided that it should Lucas Horton and not Lucas Roberts. Can you look into it and have it changed? Thanks bro! HabsMTL (talk) 00:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Well if my entry for Melanie Layton was erased then I would like to see the entry for Liberty Ciccone from As The World Turns erased as well. As you put it, a character has to be present for YEARS in order to get an entry. I will be keeping tabs on this request. Thank You Phenomenon8980 (talk) 17:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I will report you for vandalizing my page then too! Lay off my stuff and Ill lay off yours. Nobody needs your input. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phenomenon8980 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm giving you one last warning. Stay away from any page I create! I don't need your input. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phenomenon8980 (talk • contribs) 23:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

What's up bud? I removed the info concerning the actress who portrays Morgan Hollingsworth. I hope that's ok with you. Apparently, I checked soapoperadigest.com and looked for when she's leaving DAYS, but there was nothing on there. I just checked soaps.com (which we can't use as a source) and it confirms it, by saying that her character will be moving to Chicago soon. So until she's gone, she's still part of the show. Remember, I am not vandalizing the page :D Later bro! :) HabsMTL (talk) 03:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

MIND YOUR DAMN BUSINESS! DO NOT CONTACT ME OR LEAVE ME ANYMORE NOTES ON MY TALK PAGE FOR ANY REASON!!! Phenomenon8980 (talk) 17:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Rm994, just FYI, I have warned Phenomenon8980. I've tried being patient, but the above comment was not appropriate. If there's another outburst, I'll go ahead and block (if some other admin doesn't do it first). --Elonka 18:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey. What's up? I've got a question for you. Shouldn't Matt Borlenghi be removed from the days cast since he's been killed off because he hasn't been seen on the show since his "tragic" accident in front of the DiMera mansion? What should we do about it? I say we should delete it. What about you? Later bro! :) HabsMTL (talk) 21:21, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think he's been on for 50 episodes either. HabsMTL (talk) 22:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey. What's up? My bad. But they haven't left the show yet. People think that they have already left when they're still on. What's up with that? later dude! :) HabsMTL (talk) 03:48, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem man. Anytime. I'm doing great and you? What have you thought of this week's episodes? I figured sooner or later the truth about Nicole and her fake pregnancy will come out and expose her for who she really is? What do you think about that? Later dude! :) HabsMTL (talk) 00:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

July 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to List of Days of our Lives cast members has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. —Sean Whitton / 15:16, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, not sure what happened there. Your edits certainly weren't vandalism. I think I may have hit the wrong article. Thanks for your understanding. —Sean Whitton / 15:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Help

Hey. I've taken a look at the article history and I can see that you've had your work cut out. However, semi-protection (that is, blocking ip edits and edits by accounts under four days old) is only applied when things are really out of control *now* - i.e. the edits are going on presently, and from what I can see you haven't had trouble for several days. If I were you I would watchlist the article and keep and eye and keep posting messages to their talk pages, in the hope that one gets read. If it does get worse, take a look at requests for page protection. Thanks. —Sean Whitton / 09:29, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Redirects

Hiya, when there is strong opposition to changing a page into a redirect, please don't just edit war about it.[1] Instead, file an Article for deletion request. If you're not sure how to file one, let me know and I'll help. --Elonka 18:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

DOOL

Hey bro! Any time man! I got your back. If anybody messes with you, they mess with me also. Later bro! :) HabsMTL (talk) 00:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey. What's up? You sound upset. Let me give you a piece of advice. Don't waste your time with the guy. He ain't worth it, man. Besides, I think you have bigger fish to fry than having to deal with someon who doesn't seem to understand WP, am I right? Like I said, I got your back! Later bro! :) HabsMTL (talk) 03:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey man! My weekend has been very good. As for Galen Gering playing 'Rafael' on Days, I've checked the site for soap opera digest and it does not say what his character's name will be. But soaps.com does say that Gering's character is named 'Rafael' and that we will see him on Halloween day, even though we cannot use soaps.com as a source. Hope that helps. Later bud! :) HabsMTL (talk) 21:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up...

Took care of it. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 13:09, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

I semi-protected the 3 articles you told me about. It was clear who is doing this, and since his IP changes so frequently, it seems this was the only logical step to stop it. If he shows up elsewhere, please let me know and I will protect more articles as needed. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 00:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

FYI. I started this: Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Grouchstink. This may be the best way to deal with this. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 01:09, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your latest concern over: List of Days of our Lives cast members. I am going to decline the request for protection for two reasons. First, I instituted a rangeblock against Grouchstink a few days ago, so we are unlikely to have any problems from him in the near future, so I doubt this is him. Secondly, the level of vandalism is below the usual level required for protection. Looking at the page history, I see 5 non-constructive edits during the past week, 6 the week before that, and maybe 5-6 the week before that. That's less than 1 bad edit per day; hardly worth the trouble of protection. If the article starts receiving high levels of vandalism, such as continuous, multiple vandalisms per hour, such that you cannot keep up with it, let me know and I will look into it further. However, I don't see where this article needs any protection at this point. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 21:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Days

There is another site that i am not sure that you can use for DAYS two fired stars.

will you check that out for me if that works for them leaving the show?

Thanks and happy new year.--M42380 (talk) 02:38, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Days articles

Hey there ... twice I've reverted additions to many Days character articles from random IPs involving the names for Sami, Nicole, and Mia's babies, which I think are fan fiction (Grace, Diana and Sydney, or some such). I don't follow Days daily and don't have the articles on my watchlist, but I think you may be more up-to-date on the show. Can you let me know if I'm wrong on this one, and perhaps monitor some of the articles? You will know better than I if these additions are completely made up, or perhaps partially true. And if you know of anyone else who edits Days articles, can you get them in the loop? Thanks!— TAnthony^Talk 04:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

There have been no names on the show for either of those babies. It is all just fan fiction. I will keep an eye on them. Thanks! Rm994 (talk) 04:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I have protected about a dozen or so of his targets. Just keep a list of the articles he targets, and drop a note once in a while on me, and I will continue to protect them. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:11, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about a rangeblock, if s/he's been making the changes through a range of addresses, that would work, but I haven't seen that. (I could easily be wrong.) I would suggest a temporary block or account creation block, rather than scrambling to semiprotect all 88 Days of our lives articles. (Yes, I counted.) just a little insignificant 01:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, s/he's been account creation blocked for 24 hours. just a little insignificant 12:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay Rm994 I have not added any spoilers to Carly Manning. I just added some family members who were not on her family list, how is that adding spoilers? I don't want to sound rude, but how are you adding spoilers by adding family members names? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilypada94 (talk • contribs) 02:09, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Not another fan fiction!

So, 85.226.70.239 is the culprit now, an address remarkably similar to the previous 85.226.66.142. I believe a rangeblock is in order. a little insignificant 22:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

On second thought, a rangeblock would be too harsh. I've opened up a case at AN/I. a little insignificant 23:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Mia (Days of Our Lives)

Hi, I removed the speedy tag on this article. The rationale you gave was a perfectly fine rationale during an AfD discussion but not sufficient to warrant speedy deletion. If you still think this article should be deleted, please send it to WP:AFD -- Deville (Talk) 01:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help :) Rm994 (talk) 02:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I suggest adding some of what you posted to my talk page. Perhaps "I need to clarify that I think the article should be deleted outright, not merged as there is already a section about this character at Minor characters of Days of Our Lives." Then strike (here's an example stike) the part of your nomination that says Merge, but do not actually delete that line of your nomination. Edward321 (talk) 23:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Tense

I've reverted your adjustments to John Black (fiction); I figured you knew this, but per WP:TENSE, fictional subjects should be discussed in the present tense. It is basically a means to differentiate fictional events/context from "real world" ones. Many soap articles have plot summary written "incorrectly" in past tense, but this is because they have yet to be noticed/fixed, not because it is correct. These articles are usually also the ones that are all plot summary, with no real world context or sources ;) Thanks! — TAnthony^Talk 20:39, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

It also says that "fictional history" is to be written in the past tense. How do we draw the line at what's history and what's not, when these are events that have already taken place? Is history what happened before the character is on-screen? I think that WP:TENSE is too general to apply here, because there are characters that are gone, and then there are characters that are still on the show. There needs to be a guideline for writing soap articles. I see the point about present tense and all, but how do we know where to draw the line? Thanks...and thanks for helping me with everyting :) Rm994 (talk) 15:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

As expressed by the example, the 'fictional history' bit seems to be explicitly referring to fictional events described in direct relation to the real-world historical record, and using present tense for actual history would be awkward; this would rarely be the case in a soap and 99% of the time there would still be a way to write any plot info in present tense without creating confusion. WP:TENSE is very clear: "Works of fiction are generally considered to 'come alive' when read. They exist in a kind of perpetual present tense, regardless of when the fictional action is supposed to take place relative to 'now'." You have to remember that events that "happen" on a TV show did not really happen, even though the experience of viewing them may make it seem so. A lot of people seem to think that soap articles should be stylistically different, but I honestly think that instinct is due to fans being used to Soap Opera Digest coverage and that sort of thing. I don't see the problem created by characters being on the show or gone, or whether events occurred on the series 30 years ago or yesterday.— TAnthony^Talk 16:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Minor characters of Days of our Lives

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User:Gabi Hernandez

Might I suggest referring this to ANI? This sounds far too complex for AIV. Blueboy96 03:27, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Will do, thanks :) Rm994 (talk) 04:36, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

What did I do wrong?

Please, I am so confused. All I did was try to edit Adrienne's page because there was no information on it. What did I do that was wrong? I know I uploaded the wrong picture of Judi Evans, but I fixed that. Gabi Hernandez

Regarding the Austin Peck rumor

I'm sorry, but I did give a link to an interview in which this is pretty much confirmed as a source, so I don't understand why you responded to me in such a harsh way. If you think what I did was wrong, fine, delete it. But it's not like I went all crazy on his page writing all kinds of rumours without any source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ForgottenStranger (talk • contribs) 00:57, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Decorative Images?

Why is it wrong to add decorative images, they provide more insight onto a characters history. I see nothing wrong with it, and I would appreciate you not reverting all of my edits. I worked really hard on Philip, Nicole, and some of Julie's page. I added sources, and incline citations. I completely rewrote Philip's page. And how do you describe a fictional character in a non-in-universe style? Thats a braintwister. --Gabriela Hernandez 21:08, 14 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabi Hernandez (talk • contribs)

I'm just going to stop editing. Block my account if you want. All I tried to do was help with some of the articles, and I am repeatedly yelled at for it. It's not worth the time or effort to put all that work into an article, and just have it reverted. I tried to follow what you had been saying, I tried to add incline citations, and references. But somehow I still managed to screw it up. You have been somewhat nice to me, but it's a slap in the face every time you see an article that you put effort into reverted, When all you tried to do was make it better! You say I haven't tried to follow the rules, and that I repeatedly do things wrong, but I am not meaning to. All I wanted to do was improve these articles. Problem Solved. --Gabriela Hernandez 01:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabi Hernandez (talk • contribs)

• Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Gabi Hernandez

;) Jack Merridew 21:29, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikia

What exaclty is the so different about Wikia, rather than Wikipedia? Gabi Hernandez talk--Gabriela Hernandez 02:15, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

From what I understand, you don't have to use sources, you can edit whatever you want. Check out the Days of Our Lives site. http://daysofourlives.wikia.com/wiki/Days_of_our_Lives_Wiki. That can help you get started on it. Hope this helps :) Rm994 (talk) 02:28, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I will give it a try, from what I can see that is a pathetic excuse for a page for a Soap that has been on the air for more than forty-five years. Thanks, sorry for annoying you all the time. Gabi Hernandez talk--Gabriela Hernandez 02:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I am here to help you in anyway I can. Rm994 (talk) 02:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Notability

How would you prove Will's notability? His entire section was removed from the NBC website. Will is a longtime character, which is why I thought he deserved his own article. I'm still very new here, but I am really trying to learn the rules. Most of the Days' articles have the maintenance tags like you put on Will's. User:Sami50421 --Sami50421 (talk) 00:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

It's nothing personal, and I completely understand. Should I go about trying to fix it anyway, or should I just leave it? Try to correct the maintenance tags I mean. User:Sami50421 --Sami50421 (talk) 00:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Recent Edits

Hey. I don't know if you know, but I've done a lot of work on some Days of our Lives articles. And I would like your input, on what I have contributed. I think I have the rules down. I also managed to get Days up to good article status. User:Sami50421(talk) 20:05, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Reply

Thanks for the kind words. Anything you need me to do, let me know. I will keep an eye on some of those Days articles for you. Whatever you need, feel free to leave me a message. Thanks. Sami50421 (talk) 22:23, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

All Current Days' Articles Fixed

Hey I just thought I'd let you know that as of today, none of the current Days' articles have maintenance tags on them. I have fixed all of theme, even a really bad one, Stefano DiMera. Hopefully your happy with my work, because all my effort on Wikipedia is fixing those articles. Each one now has reliable sources, and is up to Wikipedia standards. I was a bit shocked about the Merge consensus on Stephanie Johnson, but I merged it myself with most of the information still intact. I have also been keeping a heavy eye on vandalism, and I also had a quick question on Vivian Alamain. A user changed the information to be read as Vivian Kiriaks, I reverted their edits because they didn't leave a source. It was never mentioned on screen that she changed her last name to Kiriakis, and I doubt she would. The Alamains were a very big family in Salem, and I figure she would keep her last name. I will check the credits on Monday to see if it changed. Thanks for your help. Sami50421 (talk) 00:13, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting me on that. I'm still pretty new here, and I wasn't sure what to do about it. The name is fixed, and will stay that way. Sami50421 (talk) 01:58, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Notability

Didn't I prove her notability when writing the article. All of those sources are valid, she may not be a member of any large families but I dont think she is JUST a minor character. And if the notability is being called into question, most of these articles DONT have that aspect. Soap Opera Articles are truly only recognized by people who watch them. I worked really hard on that article, is there any other way to prove her notability? The character of Melanie is highly promoted on their website, and other such advertisements. I hate to just see all that good work go to waste. Don't get angry at me for this, I'm just wondering if it's possible. Peace. Sami50421 (talk) 20:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Burnett was nominated for a Daytime Emmy for her character, which might be provable. There are also a lot of interviews out there with Burnett about the character. I really just don't believe she's much of a minor character. I know popularity is not notability, but stated here [2] it helps with it. I also heavily cited that article with more sources than I have ever used on here.

• [3]
• [4]
• [5]

There's much more. Just let me know if there's any way to do this. Sami50421 (talk) 20:50, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Then you see people with articles like Claire who wasn't even an adult on her tenure on the show, [6]. So if notability is the problem, I just don't understand. I've looked over WP:Note, but I still see nothing wrong with the way I did the article. Sami50421 (talk) 21:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I sort of understand a little bit more. If Melanie sticks around for a while, she will gain more notability. Then she could be able to have a stand alone article. Am I correct? And yes I am going to stick around here. I like it here, and I like the people here. Feel free if you ever don't have the time for something to let me know. I usually try to fix up an article before I go to bed. Right now my MAIN focus is on the Days of our Lives articles, because they REALLY need some work! Alright, thanks. You have a good weekend too! Sami50421 (talk) 21:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure I Will Do.

I can certainty do that for you. I expected that would happen with all the returns for Alice coming soon. I will add all those pages to my watchlist, and keep an eye out on them for you. Just editing here in the past two months I have seen a lot of vandalism. I just recently added Twinkle to my profile, so that should be easy. I will revert non notable information, and unreliable sources. I know a lot of people use Soap Opera Central.com, which has a lot of misleading information. I was actually going to work on Marie's article later. I managed to get all the Current/Recurring Days' articles fixed. And most of the past articles are REALLY bad, but I am determined to get these up to Wiki standards. Thanks, and have a nice night. Sami50421 (talk) 01:12, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I also moved Claire Kiriakis's page, to Children of Days of our Lives. Also would it be okay if I added the soap opera infobox templates to those minor sections? I think it makes it a little more informative, like here Claire Kiriakis Sami50421 (talk) 01:12, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Cookie!

♥Nici♥Sami♥Heart♥ has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching, and thanks for helping me learn some of the ropes here.

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Just a thank you for helping me learn the strings here. Your fair, and know your stuff. Sami50421 (talk) 19:27, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

And The Edits Begin.

I have already seen people begin to add stuff to Laura Horton, and Bill Horton's articles. I reverted there edits, just to let you know. Also did you like the work I did on Maggie Horton's article? It's the most heavily cited article, out of them. Well except of course for the actual Days of our Lives article. I was going to work on Alice Horton's next. Thanks. Sami50421 (talk) 19:39, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I won't add it until it happens. I just figured since it aired today, that it was fine. And I wasn't aware Daytime Confidential wasn't a reliable source per WP:V. I'm going to have to fix some edits then. Hope your doing well also. Sami50421 (talk) 19:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I know what you mean! Remember when you asked me for that favor, and I added ALL those pages my watchlist? I can barely read it anymore, I tried to remove unsourced spoilers, but random IP's keep going, and adding them back. Sami50421 (talk) 23:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Provide a Review Please.

Stephanie Johnson is currently being requested to restore the AfD Merge. Please provide your input on the talk page here [7]. The character is notable, being the daughter of one of the most popular super couples in the history of Days of our Lives. I'm not familiar with User:Gabi Hernandez, but I believe she has a point here. I can add many references, if that is the issue. Anyway, review it please so we can get it back, and then I can work on it. Sami50421 (talk) 01:35, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Arguement!

I strongly disagree with what you are saying about Melanie Layton, not only is she notable but she and her character are heavily advertised by not only NBC, but many other Soap Opera forms. She is the lead younger actress, second to Stephanie. The character has been on the show for the better part of three years. There are references proving the notability, and I think if you feel that strongly you should open a discussion about it. NONE of these articles have the best notability, because it is a Soap Opera. You can't just go around redirecting articles, without talking with the creators of that article. All notability issues can be proved with reliable sources. THERE ARE SOURCES IN THAT ARTICLE. SURE MOST ARE PRIMARY BUT MORE CAN BE ADDED. Melanie deserves her own article, and has been on the show for longer than a lot of these characters with articles. Gabriela Hernandez 19:29, 11 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabi Hernandez (talk • contribs)

Marie Horton

Um, hello. None of that stuff was unverified. I did not need to add a source because I rewrote the article based on SoapCentral, which was already a source. I may add a couple of sources, but I need to figure out how to do that. The article was in drastic need of vast improvements, and it was a sub-standard article. At least allow me to add a oouple of sources before you undo what work I had done.Bmf777 (talk) 04:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Do you know where I can find good sources for the stuff that I wrote? I mean, if fan websites are out, SoapCentral, and YouTube, I believe. Then where? Thanks.Bmf777 (talk) 06:55, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, me again. Now I have another question. I understand that the user who added those sources was a sockpuppet, but those were very good verifiable sources. One of them was from Days of Our lives' studio website, Sony, which owns Days and runs the day-to-day production. May I ask why this was removed and can we please undo this so that the Marie Horton article isn't ratty? She is, after all, an original character of Days.Bmf777 (talk) 05:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Could you tell me what in that article was unsourced speculation? I'm relatively new to this whole thing and this is bothering me, especially since the whole article is backed up by the Sony site. And the little that's not on the Sony site is refrenced in some other way. Please give me some insight... Bmf777 (talk) 17:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Whoops!

Thanks for clarifying that. I noticed that the user had repeatedly went to every article for every character returning. I was only trying to inform the editor about writing that way. Thanks for justifying the difference however. Hope you are well as well! Sami50421 (talk) 21:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Also would you like to join my new Wiki Project on Days? If so add your name here [8]. I want these articles up to the best possible standards here, but I can't do it all by myself and would like to seek other editors interested here. I know none of them could be featured articles, because of notability issues. However, we can push and fix some to get up to at least Good Article status. However, over the summer I am going to rewrite some of them, and expand on others. I really like it here, and just want the Days articles to be better! Sami50421 (talk) 21:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppets

Hi, just to let you know about Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gabi Hernandez/Archive; I know you've had some interaction with her. Regards, --BelovedFreak 08:13, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

With regard to your comment at the investigation, a checkuser has confirmed that both accounts were coming from the same IP address. Just speculating but it may be that the Sami account was interacting with you differently as an attempt to make a new start in some way, which possibly would have worked if she hadn't kept on the other account. Also, although it seems bizarre, some "sockmasters" do operate in this way (see WP:GHBH). Whatever the reason, the accounts were being used abusively in deletion discussions and GA nominations as detailed, hence the indef block. Sorry if I'm telling you what you already know, just wanted to make it bit clearer after reading your comment! Regards, --BelovedFreak 19:15, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that's so disheartening. Thanks for the clarification. I must admit I feel a little dumb after this because I didn't suspect it for a second. Well, anyway, thank you so much for the help, we certaintly do not need deception on this site. Have a great day :) Rm994 (talk)

Don't feel dumb, it seemed like two people, so why would you suspect? I only got suspicious because I was dealing directly with both of them over the same article, and I had noticed the Gabi account attempting to pass a sub-par GA nomination from the Sami account with no comments on a previous occasion. Then I looked at all of their edits side by side and saw more irregularities. So don't feel bad, you weren't looking for it! --BelovedFreak 00:04, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

You're right, I wasn't looking for it. It seemed that Gabi Hernandez wouldn't have used socks again, considering she was warned harshly about doing so. And on top of that, Sami54021 actually made some pretty good additions, while Gabi Hernandez seemed to make the same mistakes (when he/she actually edited, which should have been my first clue). It was clear to me, however, that they want to treat this as a fan site. So many people do not understand the concepts of verifiability and notability...they think they can just add whatever they want. I don't want to be viewed as "the bad guy", but if these soap articles are ever going to be actual good articles, they MUST be up to standards. Thanks for the kind words. Happy editing! Rm994 (talk) 00:09, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Sources

Hi. Is it possible to use an aired episode of television as a source? If so, how is it to be formatted? I am trying to include information that aired as dialogue in an episode as part of the article. The source I offered is an accurate transcript of the episode and is not in any way affected by subjectivity, and I don't see any discussion or reference to fan sites in WP:V. But, in any event, I don't really need to cite the website. The aired episode is a primary source; I just don't know how to cite it. --DavidK93 (talk) 20:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Stephanie Johnson

Hey Rm994. I just had a quick question about one of your Days articles. That one would be Stephanie Johnson, the article was deleted but was opened again with a DR. The result of that was to keep, so I am wondering why it's a redirect. The only reason I'm wondering was because I found Maggie Horton on the Peer Review log which I was looking through, and I was skimming through some of the characters pages. Revert my edits, but if the debate was opened with a result to keep doesn't that mean it should have a stand alone article? HGraphite (talk) 22:00, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Here is the Deletion Review Log- [9] Here is the Deletion- [10] —Preceding unsigned comment added by HGraphite (talk • contribs) 22:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

FYI

Don't know if you were aware: [11]--BelovedFreak 23:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Rm994. You have new messages at Ost316's talk page.
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re: Nicole Walker

I moved the page back without any problem. Per WP:Autoconfirmed you should be able to move pages, but it appears you're not autoconfirmed. I haven't the foggiest idea why you're not, but... you're not. Anyway, if you'd like, I'll do some user rights managing for you. I can make you a confirmed user, so you can move pages, edit semi-protected pages, and upload files. AniMate 07:10, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch! I appreciate your help. Rm994 (talk) 14:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Having changed your user rights, you apparently are auto-confirmed. Try moving User:AniMate/sandbox to User:AniMate/sandbox2. May I ask if you are required to enter a CAPTCHA editing? AniMate 21:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

No, I was able to move it just fine with no problem. I think the problem with Nicole Walker was just that I was simply clicking "undo" and not "move". Thanks for all your help. Rm994 (talk) 23:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Aha. That explains things. AniMate 23:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Jason Walters

What exactly is your issue. I'm not sure if you actually watch Days of our Lives or not but... Ty Treadway's on the show as Jason Walters. His first episode was Friday the 17th and pretty much every soap source has announced it. What more do you need? --157.130.114.114 (talk) 01:43, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I don't need anything. This rules of this site, however, NEED a reliable, third party source announcing his debut. Yes, I watch days...Yes, I saw him on there. Soapcentral, soaps.com etc are unreliable per WP:V. Any addition made must be sourced. Please read the rules of this site. Rm994 (talk) 15:21, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

What qualifies as reliable? Literally every source of soap opera information I know have mentioned Ty Treadway's coming on Days, and those are the only sources that would comment on anything. What more do you need? When you know that a character has joined a show but are refusing to let Wikipedia reflect that, you don't think there's a chance you're obeying the letter of law at the expense of its spirit? --70.232.160.89 (talk) 20:05, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

The rules are very simple. When you edit, you must source with reliable sources. Fan sites do not count as reliable. Reliable sources include the nbc site, and soapoperadigest.com. Those are not fan operated sites. If you can find reliable thiry party sources, by all means, add him to the list. Just because not every addition is sourced does not mean it is correct. It means no one has caught it. Rm994 (talk) 00:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Days Of Our Lives Cast List

I fixed all the hyphens and made them the standard size and got rid of all the dead links. Sorry about removing the references, those I left as is. Thanks so much. Take Care. TVFAN24 (talk) 01:36, 10 October 2010 (UTC) (undo)

The Bold And The Beautiful

A user changed the episode number to that which is supposed to air this Friday.Please notify the user that changed the episode number too soon not do that again. I changed it back to the current.Wingard (talk) 23:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't follow B&B, so I have no idea what's correct or what is not. All I can say is the any controversial material must be sourced with verifiable sources, and you have every right to warn them. Thank you. Rm994 (talk) 15:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

Please do not delete or flag potential "spoilers" in Wikipedia articles, as you did in the article Minor characters of Days of our Lives. It is generally expected that the subjects of Wikipedia articles will be covered in detail, and giving a section a title such as "Plot" or "Ending" is considered sufficient warning to the reader that the text will contain revelations about the narrative. Deleting such information makes the article less useful for a reader who is specifically trying to find out more about the subject. For more information, see Wikipedia's guidelines on spoilers. Thank you. Cindamuse (talk) 01:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

User:Gabi Hernandez

There's currently a discussion on her talk page about unblocking her. It's by no means a done deal, but considering everything she's done, I don't think anyone would be willing to let her edit with out some guidance and oversight from a mentor. I'm not willing to do it, and she mentioned you. Pop over there to state your opinion if you'd like. AniMate 02:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Sami Brady

Hi Rm994. is this a reliable source for Samantha Brady's marriage to Rafe? :-) http://daysofourlives.about.com/b/2010/11/21/updated-november-spoilers-rafe-and-sami-get-married.htm DrLiande333 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:33, 7 December 2010 (UTC).

Hello :). Traditionally, fan sites with no affiliation with the show are not considered reliable per WP:V. Reliable sources include printed third party sources. Most often, the nbc.com website and soapoperadigest.com are used. I'm sure you can probably find it somewhere in those sources. I certainly will not object to the information, since I myself do watch the show and do know they did indeed marry. However, per WP:COMMONNAMES, the name of the article must remain Sami Brady, because that is the most commonly associated name with the character. Hope this helps! Thank you :) Rm994 (talk) 15:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

IP user 24.131.114.66

In response to your AIV I have blocked them for 48 hours.

However, that's not the reason I'm letting you know. I wonder if IrishLass0128/KellyAna has returned (you remember them, I suppose)? It's not just the soap edits but the other ones (I won't share it publicly but there is one huge honking tell there that set me right off).

Do you think we should look into this further? Daniel Case (talk) 06:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Funny you mention it, as it pinged in my head as well. However, the IP geolocates to Pittsburgh, and if I'm not mistaken, one (Irish I think) located to California, and the other to North Carolina. And, she didn't really engage in any hard core vandalism as I recall, most often reverting unsourced changes. I barely had any contact with them though, as I was still learning the ropes when she/they were blocked. I think this IP is just new, and doesn't really understand the sourcing rules just yet. What do you think? Rm994 (talk) 06:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

OK, to me the Pittsburgh thing is kind of salient. In one of her earliest edits to her userpage, Irish identified as a Steelers fan (Kelly, AFAIR, never expressed a sports team preference ... I suspect that may have been a way she tried to make the two accounts appear unrelated).

So what, you'll say ... we just have some local mall employee who's a big soap fan.

But what, then, can we make of this edit ... when we remember Kelly claimed to live in California? Yes, she didn't actually (my understanding is the IP traced to NC), but I suspect from her edits, primarily as herself and with a few from Irish, that she had lived there at some point in the past and so was familiar enough with the greater LA area to passably pass herself off as living there, and edited articles about those places to reinforce that impression. Note, too, that that edit does not mention anything about Pittsburgh. Daniel Case (talk) 07:08, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Looks like you may be onto something. But if you look at the first warning on my talk page, Irish scolds me for using youtube as a source. The IP address we're dealing with here obviously has no concept of sourcing. I have to tell you that I get so discouraged sometimes by some behavior on here. I thought the rules were clear that controversial edits should be sourced with a verifiable reliable source. It was explained to me a few months ago that anything can be added as long as a source exists somewhere. Then what exactly is the point of WP:V? Adding a citation needed tag to an edit that is obviously unsourced fan garbage seems wrong somehow. Anyway, you may be right about the IP. I'll keep watch on it and continue to revert unsourced controversial changes. The only major violater I've seen of late is User:Gabi Hernandez. That one was all kinds of wrong. Thanks for your help! Rm994 (talk) 07:29, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

To be fair to her, plenty of other editors make that mistake, but per WP:YOUTUBE links to that site are not per se forbidden, only links to copyrighted content posted without the consent of the copyright holder (i.e., Hulu links are OK). Daniel Case (talk) 03:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Gotcha. Yeah, it was a clip from Days of our Lives, so I doubt it was consented! Thanks for all your help. Rm994 (talk) 04:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Looks like someone else took care of them. Daniel Case (talk) 03:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you :) Rm994 (talk) 04:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Marlena Evans‎

I think it would be bnetter to start a discussion on which images to keep seeings as most are free images which have every right to be there. If they were all non-free with a rationale, I wouldn't have objected. But I don't think it's fair that such a bold edit orphans these images. The doll image IMO was fairly good, also any images of the actress if they are just modified to explain why they are in the article, that's fair. I however do not think they all should remain, but that can be discussed and decide which should be cut.RAIN*the*ONE ^BAM 20:16, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

According to policy, decorative images simply showing the actress in character, serving no point to the article should be removed. Also, several of those images were not images of the character, but images of the actress, which is against policy to add. And not only that, at least one of them was added by a blocked user, blocked over and over for violating image policy. A discussion could be beneficial though, and I would certainly welcome it. Thanks for the comment :) Rm994 (talk) 20:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

I know, I know. I'm also aware that you think it's a blocked user that's previously caused a lot of drama using IP's.. but some of them are ok IMO. It would be beneficial to discuss, like you said they have no right being there for decoration, if however some are linked in. Such as the one of John and Marlena, not in character, but they were in the headlines a lot because of their outlandish plots, then that's fine. But the image caption would have to explain why it's there of course. Are you creating a discussion then? Then the doll obviously illustrates what is being discussed in the prose at the bottom... Happy editing. =)RAIN*the*ONE ^BAM 20:27, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I will start a discussion on the talk page. Thanks for your input! :) Rm994 (talk) 20:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Galen Gering

Hey Rm994,

I don't know what your refering too b/c I never made any edits about Galen Gering on the Days Page. Maybe you accidently got me confused with someone else. Take care. :) TVFAN24 (talk) 23:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh never mind. I see what your saying. I just made the adjustment b/c that second character had no link to click on. Take care. :)TVFAN24 (talk) 23:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

22:25, 21 March 2011 (UTC)22:25, 21 March 2011 (UTC)22:25, 21 March 2011 (UTC)~==74.143.57.130== I blocked 74.143.57.130 at your request; I could not tell if most of the items to soap pages were vandalism, but the one at Anti-Mexican sentiment was pretty clear.  :) I can't help clean up on the soap pages (no can tell what is "real"), so I leave that exercise to the expert. Kuru (talk) 19:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! :) Rm994 (talk) 20:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

TVFAN24 (talk) 23:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

A Person Undoing Edits of Mine

Hey Rm994,

I just wanted to inform you of a wikipedia user who I have had an issue with in the past has started once again to undue my edits. As you know, I try to be a very good and accurate editor not only on the soaps, but other articles as well. It seems like anything I have edited today, this person has removed the lists that have been there for a very long time. This person is trying to get me to revert these edits, so they can block me again. I would really appreciate if you could look into this matter for me. I am very stressful person and this situation is starting to really stress me out. This person has not been around since October and all of a sudden as of today they're back again. I'd swear they have it out for me. No other wikipedian seemed to have a problem but this person. The four pages are WLS-TV, WBBM-TV, Entertainment Tonight, and Access Hollywood that have been reverted as of today. I'd like to undue these edits back to how they were, but I don't want to be blocked for it. I know you have nothing to do with the situation, but since you are such a good administrator I figured I could use your outside assistance. Thanks. TVFAN24 (talk) 22:27, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello Rm994, I believe that I'm probably the editor that's being discussed in this context. Please review my personal talk page, as well as previous entries on the Administrators' noticeboard in regard to my (and others) past experiences with this editor, in regard to their persisting in continuously re-adding unreferenced list entries containing biography of living persons type material, both in the face of consensus against it by other editors, including an attempt at mentor-ship by another administrator. They have been blocked several times in the past year or so, amongst other things, both for continuing to re-add material of this type to articles in the face of consensus against it, and on one occasion for running a number of sockpuppets in an attempt to evade blocks imposed on them in order to continue to re-add this type of material. Other administrators and editors have attempted various means to encourage TVFAN24 to "mend their ways'; alas so far, in vain it seems. thanks Deconstructhis (talk) 22:49, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

In reference to the sockpuppeting, that was last year and at the time I thought that was the only way to go around the situation. Since learning of Wikipeda's policy, I have learned my lesson from that occurance. In regards to a concensus that particular one was from last year and this is a new year which means a new consensus. Again, I could see if it was a whole lot of administrators but this is the only person who has hassled me about this and I'm growing very tired of this. Also where has this person been since October??? Why are they just entering the fold again now?? I am not vandalizing an article like a lot of people on here do. A lot of those people are important and should remain in the list. I'm not taking anything away from the exisitng articles. TVFAN24 (talk) 23:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I'm actually just a regular editor like everyone else here, with no administrative power. I'm unfamiliar with the pages you listed, so I can't comment as to what should or should not be added. What I can say is that I've noticed that you do tend to add unsourced edits very OFTEN. The best way to not have your edits removed is to source them with reliable third party sources. Adhering to those guidelines will help you very far with your editing. Also, if a consensus is reached on a talk page that a certain edit is made, you should respect that. It's the reason I asked you to comment about Galen Gering playing two characters. Since the consensus on the talk page was reached, hopefully the content won't be deleted. I urge you to try and find sources to back up your edits, that way they will hopefully not be deleted. Hope this helps. Rm994 (talk) 04:14, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Days of Our Lives Formatting

Hey Rm994,

I wish you would have told me beforehand with the small formatting of the numbers, I took a great deal of time and energy to make the necessary changes and took over an hour. My hand was very sore afterwords. In my opinion, it looks much neater that way as opposed to the way that it stands now. Right now it looks very sloppy just adding numbers after a character and should be in a smaller font. If you look at the other soap opera pages, it follows that same format. I would like to revert back to that way but I would like to get your opinion before doing so. Please let me know. Thnaks.TVFAN24 (talk) 21:25, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Minor characters of Days of our Lives

Rm994, you deleted a fairly sizeable amount of content that I added to the Minor characters of Days of our Lives article. I've added a section on the Talk page there to ask what the standard is for inclusion of characters. I'd appreciate your input there. Also, I don't feel that your response of deleting the unsourced text is the proper one. It should be tagged as unsourced, and only deleted if an appreciable amount of time has passed without a source being added. I really don't appreciate your claim that my additions were "ridiculous." --DavidK93 (talk) 21:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Chad Peterson Woods

I updated the section and you removed my updates and I'd like to know why.--Nk3play2 ^{my buzz} 04:57, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Because an encyclopedia is not Soap Opera Digest. Cluttering up these pages with useless plot points violates WP:PLOT. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan site dedicated to everyone's favorite soap opera characters. Rm994 (talk) 16:16, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Days cast list protection

Sorry I missed your request initially. I just gave the article two weeks of semi-protection. Daniel Case (talk) 16:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Haha no problem. It actually kind of calmed down right after I asked you. I don't know what the sudden fascination is with it. I guess because so many old characters are coming back. Anyway, thanks for your help! Rm994 (talk) 18:16, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, it's semi'ed for a month now. That should get us into September when the show starts up again.

If you keep a list of the IPs we may be able to set up a rangeblock as well. Daniel Case (talk) 18:18, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that's the big issue right now. There are a LOT of comings and goings, and people are determined to make the page the way they want it. I inserted hidden tags with rules governing when we add and delete new characters, but of course, no one pays attention. I'll certainly keep a record of the most problematic editors. Thanks for your great help! Rm994 (talk) 18:27, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

It's locked up for, basically, the rest of the year now. Daniel Case (talk) 01:08, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Wow that was fast! Thanks! Rm994 (talk) 01:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey

I noticed you edit american soap articles. I edit British and English soaps. User:XADTRx93 has been making questionable infobox edits to Australian soap characters, I noticed they did the same to Days of our Lives articles. I wasn't sure if I should just outright revert all the users edits, as they got information for the AU characters they edited. I haven't watched Days in years either.. (Good to see someone finally tackling the romance field for american soaps.)RaintheOne ^BAM 22:14, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

For our American soap operas, we have parameters that are set up regarding relationship infoboxes. Useless redundant clutter takes away from the point of them. I say revert it, and warn him/her of the parameters. It's what I did. Hope this helps. Rm994 (talk) 00:07, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

DOOL

Ok, as long as I can revert it back tomorrow at 7 PM Eastern time after its aired in all markets because I like to do that. Thanks. TVFAN24 (talk) 05:52, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

People Editing Before Airtime

I'm having an incredibly hard time getting certain people to understand that they can't edit something until it's actually aired in all areas, and all I'm getting is 'tude from the people. Can you help me out? Musicfreak7676 (talk) 12:37 26 September 2011 (UTC)

I've been having the same problem, and I know exactly who you are talking about. Warnings have already went up on his/her page, looks like to no avail. Perhaps if the problem persists, an administrator should be contacted? What do you think? Rm994 (talk) 23:17, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Said person has done it again. What shall I do about it? Because said person is continually going to make such edits, believing they're the only one with the power to do such. Musicfreak7676 talk) 9:36 06 October 2011 (UTC)

I got your message re this person and I am considering what we should do. Daniel Case (talk) 15:24, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you :) Rm994 (talk) 17:33, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Daniel!! Musicfreak7676 (talk) 6:59, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Exited?

Just wanted to let you know why I changed it to exited (past tense) instead as to what it says exits (present tense). Since she left the show today, it cannot be exits, that's present tense, it must be exited=past tense. Please not change it back. Hope we can come to an understanding about this Wingard (talk) 20:11, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

ATTN! Something brought to my attention!

This user, who is deeply passionate about soaps, has posted this on my Discussion Page and wanted me to share with others. Take a look:

"Hey Musicfreak, I wanted to let you know, since I enjoy your contributions and intent on improving all soap articles, that the user User:Gh87 is intentionally nominating hundreds (literally, hundreds) of soap character articles for deletion. In the past week, his grueling mistreatment has spread throughout the AMC characters most of all and has been trying to delete GL, ATWT, OLTL, DAYS, Santa Barbara, Sunset Beach (etc) characters nd history articles. He is also deleting images, all of which users have spent countless hours working on that he/she wants to delete due to "lack of notability". Just look at the contribution page - it is literally sickening at what he/she is doing. Account and IP users have tried to help but he bosses everyone around and gets admins on his side when others try to save the articles. Please help save these articles because I know you appreciate and love the soap world. Please spread the word to other users to participate in deletion discussions to save them. Again, please help and spread the word. Otherwise, users no longer have any articles to contribute for after he/she deletes them.149.4.204.17 (talk) 15:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)"

Is there anything we can do to stop this Gh87? Musicfreak7676 (talk) 12:50 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Days

No please don't go to the administrators, I waited until Berkus debuted on the show. I am sorry if I did it too soon, next time I will wait until 6pm eastern to do it. You know how much I love to edit and there are alot of people out there who actual put wrong info and vandalize. Thanks. TVFAN24 (talk) 22:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and you continuing to disregard policy lumps you in that category. You have been officially warned to stop. Now please desist before you are blocked. Rm994 (talk) 22:17, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Please I promise not to add or delete until after 6pm eastern for all Days Cast whether they are exiting or returning. I am sorry. TVFAN24 (talk) 22:23, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Do I have your permission to now edit Berkus since the show has now aired in all areas???

It's not my "permission" you need...it's the rules of the page. If he has aired in all areas, yes, policy says you can add it. But you need to seriously evaluate the advice you have been given here. If disruptive editing continues, I can assure you, you could be blocked. Rm994 (talk) 22:29, 12 October 2011 (UTC

I promise it has ended as of right now. You won't see it again. Thank you. TVFAN24 (talk) 22:31, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

I won't just get blocked anyway will I??? TVFAN24 (talk) 22:32, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

You would never "just get" blocked. People get blocked for violating policy. If you stop disruptive editing, you will not be blocked. Thanks. Rm994 (talk) 00:56, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Can I ask why Madison James was removed from misc characters? All information was correct, as taken directly from the episodes themselves. I get that she's new, but she's already put into a pivotal part of the series currently. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 5:29PM 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Because it was sourced with trivial unreliable sources. Anything put on here must be VERIFIABLE. Primary sources affiliated with the show (the show itself, websites dedicated to the show) aren't considered reliable per WP:V. If you use something like soapoperadigest.com, then it can be re-added. Rm994 (talk) 22:28, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I added everything from watching the actual episodes. Watching them live on NBC. How is that supposed to be sourced? "YouTube" isn't source-able, so I can't very well connect my TV. I don't get why the show, itself, as it's aired wouldn't be reliable? It's the actual show, it's coming from the writers/producers. That, to me, is beyond crazy and un-cool. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 9:30PM 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Because...rules state that sources must be reliable THIRD PARTY...meaning not affiliated with the subject. It might do you good to read WP:V. Look at the tag on List of Days of our Lives cast members for more information. The reason that third party sources are required because anyone can claim to be an "expert" on a subject. In order to establish notability, sources must come from OUTSIDE the realm of soap operas. Believe me, I well understand how frustrating that is, but rules are rules. Rm994 (talk) 05:10, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Who do you think you are?

Who do you think you are? You do NOT own all of the pages that have to do with Days of our Lives. I just looked through your talk page and you just love to revert and try to correct people. Well guess what? That is not going to happen anymore. Your reign of terror is over. I am going to start editing and writing articles tomorrow about Days of our Lives and they will be correct, with sources. In fact, my first to do tomorrow is Melanie Layton. She is a Major character, no matter what you say. And now she is Maggie's grand- daughter. The info on Melanie now is incorrect, she is not with Phillip anymore and I will be working on the article tomorrow. And when or if you object or try to revert anything I write, I will change it back. And don't bother running to one of your admin friends who always happens to be a Days of our Lives viewer, because that isn't going to work either. If you try that, I will have a neutral Admin brought in, one who does not watch or follow Days of our Lives to make things fair. It is evident through looking at your talk page that when you don't get your way you run to a admin who is a Days of our Lives viewer to side with you. That will NOT be happening again, as I said, your reign of terror and your ownership of all things Days of our Lives is over. --99.177.248.92 (talk) 03:36, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Your threats are going to end up getting you blocked. I assure you. Rm994 (talk) 04:11, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

These are not threats, they are facts.--99.177.248.92 (talk) 20:38, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Threatening to "change back" my reverts of your edits will be grounds for you to be blocked if those edits continuously violate policy. You need to familiarize yourself with WP:NOTE, WP:V, and WP:FANSITE regarding the character of Melanie on Days of our Lives. The article has already been deleted in discussions, so I can assure you, if you recreate it, it will be deleted again. You can bring in any admin you wish, they'll just tell you the same thing. Also, making personal attacks such as accusing me of "owning" and my "reign of terror" are also against WP:CIVIL and could also be grounds for a block. Please try and familiarize yourself with rules of this site. If your edits are sourced with reliable third party sources, I will not revert them. Thank you. Rm994 (talk) 20:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Agree with on Daniel Jonas

I'll admit that I may have jumped to conclusions about Daniel Jonas being Maggie Horton's son, but everything else did happen, so I added that information back and excluded the most recent information about the change in his maternity, if that's okay with you.--24.187.177.43 (talk) 20:40, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Looks fine to me, just be sure you familiarize yourself with WP:PLOT. The sources are good, and it's written appropriately, we just don't want anyone to accuse this of being an article all about plot summary, which violates policy. Hope this helps :) Rm994 (talk) 20:47, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Emmerdale

There is a bug in the documentation. When you change the dates for the episodes, the episode count of the documentation change as well. Why? Please help me correct the issue. Wingard (talk) 18:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I am unfamiliar with template formulas. Perhaps you can look at WP:TEMPLATE, or ask an administrator. Hopefully they will be able to point you in the right direction. Sorry! Rm994 (talk) 19:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Days of our lives cast list

Hi,

Please update the Days of our lives cast list to resemble the real nimes of the people, asap. For instance, Melanie's last name is Jonas, not Layton Kiriakis. Thank you.

Best regards, Yoryla. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allukka (talk • contribs) 19:38, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I will ask people their opinion on the talk page and see if everyone wants it changed. Thanks. Rm994 (talk) 19:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I am very pleased! - Yoryla — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allukka (talk • contribs) 22:30, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for your input! Rm994 (talk) 00:36, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Help to Redirect a Redirect

I was hoping you could help me redirect a page back to where it originally was, as someone redirected to the character's married name, though there was no reason to do such a thing. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 23:07, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

You should be able to click "undo" of an edit that is incorrect. Hopefully that will work. Rm994 (talk) 01:51, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Other edits have been done since then, though. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 19:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Please, they're continually redirecting pages that should be not redirected, only because of their "married" names. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 19:29, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

You can still "undo" an edit, even if others have been done since then. Or, you could simply just do the edit yourself and type #REDIRECT original page name here. Hope this helps. Rm994 (talk) 21:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

See, I tried undoing the re-direct and it didn't work. I will do it your way, thank you very much Rm!! Musicfreak7676 (talk) 22:36, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Let me know if it doesn't work and maybe I can help. Rm994 (talk) 22:40, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

I believe I did it, but not sure. Check out Katie Logan and Ashley Abbott to see if I did such correctly. Kind of my first time redirecting a page. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 22:45, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Yep, it's correct. I'm unfamiliar with Katie Logan, but I could see your logic behind the redirect. Also, WP:COMMONNAMES applies for Ashley Abbott. It's the same logic that applies to Marlena Evans or Sami Brady. The last names are the most commonly associated names with the character, and that's why they stay with their maiden names even though married. The point of an encyclopedia is to be all inclusive. Suppose that a person wants to catch up on their favorite character from Y&R, Ashley Abbott, and they type that into a google search engine. If the page is titled Ashley McCall or whatever, it doesn't come up. Unless that person watched the show everyday, he/she would be unaware of the name change....that's why they should remain the same. I know you understand all this, I'm just explaining the logic behind it if you need to explain it someone else. Keep up the great work! Rm994 (talk) 23:27, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, Katie Logan is the sister of Brooke Logan, and her page has never been directed. Hence why Katie were to remain with Logan, and I knew the same with Ashley. Ashley has always been Abbott, and just added her name onto her husband's name, so there was no reason to redirect her page. So thank for explaining in more logical, technical terms. I knew the redirects were not plausible simply because of a "marriage".

Question.. would Jill Fenmore be Jill Fenmore, or would she stay under Jill Foster Abbott? Musicfreak7676 (talk) 00:01, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Per WP:COMMONNAMES, it should be the most commonly associated name with character. Rm994 (talk) 07:34, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay, good to know. I'll keep it as Jill Foster Abbott. :D Also, TVFan is at it again, removing OLTL Cast members before their final airdate, so I put them all back and warned him to not do it again. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 18:15, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what the deal is with that user. He/she is warned over and over again about things, yet continues to perform the same behaviors without being blocked. Rm994 (talk) 18:25, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, if the behavior continues one final time, I will be requesting a warning and reporting them for vandalism edits. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 19:58, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

DOOL: Maggie is Melanie's Grandmother!!!

I'm confused as to what you meant by credits don't count as sources, what do you mean by credits. I used the same episode recap that confirmed Maggie was Daniel's mother as a reference. So can you please explain what you meant!!--Nk3play2 ^{my buzz} 05:18, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Primary sources dealing with the subject matter are generally not acceptable as sources on wikipedia. Sourcing the episode is not acceptable. It must be a link to something in print or online. Notability and verifiability come from outside the realm of soap operas. The nbc.com source is acceptable, if it is formatted correctly. Hope this helps. Rm994 (talk) 05:26, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Opinion Requested on Siobhan McKenna Spencer

I am requesting your imput, on merging Siobhan McKenna's character page into a misc. characters, she was on less than a year and was let go. She does not have enough validity on General Hospital to have a character page. Page. Thank you! Musicfreak7676 (talk) 20:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I say put a post at the top of the page suggesting a merge, and let all editors reach a consensus. Rm994 (talk) 17:16, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

This may sound dumb, but whats the template for such? Musicfreak7676 (talk) 00:04, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I did it for you. Now click on "discuss" on the tag on the page and give your reasoning for why you want it merged. Other editors can chime in until you reach a consensus. Hope this helps. Rm994 (talk) 00:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks RM, you're excellent. And that infamous member is at it again... saying the show's credits trump Soap Opera Digest. =/ And keeps deleting a cast member from GH. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 20:46, 22 November 2011 (UTC)