User talk:PopularOutcast/Acrhive 2008-2018

Welcome!

Just starting off my talk page --PopularOutcast (talk) 21:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Elderly Instruments

Great work recording this article! Thanks for doing that. --Laser brain (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Edward Low

Thank you so much for your excellent spoken version of this article. Here is a barnstar: *. Best, Neıl 龱 22:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much PopularOutcast (talk) 03:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks so much for doing the audio work on Trapped in the Closet (South Park). Cirt (talk) 10:20, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the comments .... and I realize I shouldn't thank you here because why would you check *my* page for a comment? PopularOutcast (talk) 10:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Enjoyed your Fermi Paradox recording. Math/compsci chick talking science is always cool with me :) peace. Genjix (talk) 20:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! I will try to do more math/compsci/science stuff! PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 06:19, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Daylight saving time

Thanks much for the fine reading of Daylight saving time. I never imagined that an article I helped contribute to would be read aloud and immortalized! It's much appreciated. Eubulides (talk) 01:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

LOL! You are quite welcome. It was particularly interesting to me to read because the timezone changes in 2007 were quite an issue for the software product I supported. I had to write all sorts of documents for our users and we had to do so much testing to make sure things worked. Thanks for the fine article!

In appreciation

		The Audio Barnstar
		For your hard work – and excellent results! – in creating Spoken Wikipedia files this month, I hereby present you with this Audio Barnstar. Thank you for your efforts toward making Wikipedia more accessible! Maralia (talk) 03:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

So someone needs to educate me on how this works at Wikipedia. Not sure where to put my thanks? Here or on the person's talk page who gave me the barnstar! Ack! In any case, thank you!! PopularOutcast (talk) 04:44, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I watchlisted your talk page, so I saw your reply :) Incidentally, I am pretty heavily involved in the Featured article process, and therefore usually aware of newly promoted articles; are there any particular topics that you might find interesting for recording spoken files? I'd be happy to keep an eye out and drop you a note occasionally, if it would help motivate you to produce more great files. Maralia (talk) 05:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I am fairly random in how I pick them. I am, however, trying to record items that are coming up for FA of the day first. I do tend to pick them based on difficulty level and on my ability (or lack thereof) of pronouncing words in the article. Long articles or articles with many complicated tables and/or info boxes are tremendously tedious because you have to convert those to something that makes sense while being heard. I won't, for example, pick an article about Chinese history because I can not properly pronounce the names and places. I do speak Spanish so if you have an article that has Spanish names and places in them, I can do those. I am also a computer techie by profession so I can do articles with obscure technical words in them. I like to get them done in one sitting, so I tend toward the shorter ones. If you have something long you would like me to record, I can do that too. I'm just having fun learning about all this stuff I never knew about.

Spoken article reviews

Hi! I am active in the Spoken Wikipedia project, and have noticed your impressive level of activity there recently. As you will see from the project talk page, there has recently been a call to revive the reviewing of spoken articles—a process which is beneficial to everybody, not least the hardworking narrators themselves! I have made a start by reviewing what I believe to be (from looking at your contributions list) your first article, Freak Out!. See the image talk page for the review, which takes a standard format and is based on various guidelines. I'm pleased to say this was a very pleasant narration to listen to, and I look forward to reviewing more of your output in the near future. (I should add that while I am experienced at narrating articles, this was only my second ever review of one!) Anyway, thanks for your contributions so far, and I look forward to seeing your name again on the "In Progress" section on the project page! Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for doing this! Hopefully my newest articles do not have the same problems as Freak Out! and some of my early ones did. I started using the newest version of Audacity and that has helped ... also, I have learned to become a better user of Audacity through repeated recordings so hopefully the splits and joins aren't as noticeable. Unfortunately I think you will see the quality of the recordings go down then back up. Somewhere along the line I also figured out the best position for my mic so the recording doesn't capture the "pops". Anyhoo, thank you for taking the time to review mine so thoroughly. PopularOutcast (talk) 23:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Feedback on feedback :P

Hey, thanks for the nifty review. See? Reviewing is easy, it just takes a little time. Time which I usually lack in abundance. Anyway, as far as the review goes, it looks good to me. You caught the whole including the GNU license and intro statement which is important. Big marks off if they miss that. As far as the infoboxes go, the introductory box is usually omitted since it contains a truncated list of what's already in the article. Just in a un-easy to read and boring to listen to format. Same for external links (boring) and references (see: Boring). References can often numbers in the hundreded for featured articles and who would take the time to listen to them all?

I learned the in's and out's of reviewing by checking this list of already reviewed articles. Macropode used to be the grand vizer of reviewing so I took my cues from his.

Beyond that, good show. Hope you do more. I'm sorry to say I haven't had a chance to hear your work yet, but since I can't record until this throat infection whatever clears up, I'll toss a few reviews up for your article. I'll have plenty to choose from, you prolific recorder you.

• Reason turns rancid (talk) 20:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

rut roh ... I don't have that nice voice you have and I so totally read the infoboxes ... while I don't read the references and such, I do still mention the section for completeness ... so I fear you are in for a bit of a boring time ... at least pick a subject you like so you don't totally fall asleep ;) PopularOutcast (talk) 22:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Wood Badge

Thank you for recording this. Nice job. Can you or someone you know transwiki it to Commons and put it in Commons' Category:Scouting sound files? Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

OK. This was my first shot at this. I don't know if I did it correctly. You may need to adjust the categories. I have it under two categories "Scouting sound files" and "Scouting". I added the Commons link on the article as well but put category Scouting. You made need to change that. Thanks!

Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 19:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool!

Image:Age of Empires.ogg - thanks for that! :) Enjoy reading it? giggy _(:O) 14:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

'Oolid'

As a biology/geology student, I think I can answer to this one. :) The double-o sound should be pronounced as the o combination in "school," but repeated twice: "ooh-ooh-lid." Hope that helps! Tenris (talk) 01:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey thanks! I did end up calling a reference librarian and they gave me the ooh-uh-lid ... although the middle sounds much like the ooh when said aloud.

Goody Two-Shoes

Hi, I have seen that you've done quite a lot of good recordings of article from Wikipedia and i was wondering if maybe you could do some other type of recording. Would you please record an audio version of the 1888 edition of Goody Two-Shoes linked above, for Wikisource? The text isn't all that long as you can see, and it has also been proofread. diego_pmc (talk) 13:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Many, many thanks for the recording. I would like to ask you however to make a few edits to the file. First could you take out the description from the beginning, so that after you read "[...] at en.wikisource.org" then follows the actual story, without reading the description. Could you also remove the "Image [...]" parts and the "This work is in the public domain worldwide because the author died at least 100 years ago".

I would do these myself, but don't know how to work with *.ogg's.

And one last modification. Could you re-record the first paragraph after the 4th image, please so that the "they" wouldn't be so strong. Thanks again for spending time to record it.

I have also added the file at the Wikisource page, and edited its description, since, as you said, that template was for Wikipedia. Hope that's okay. diego_pmc (talk) 06:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Point (1), yes, but keep all until "at en.wikisource.org" part, then from point (2) to point (4), correct. As for uploadeing it at wikisource, you misunderstood; I said I added it at wikisource, as in I put a link to the file on the page. The file is still at Commons. diego_pmc (talk) 06:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

It's good now. Thanks for helping. -- diego_pmc (talk) 17:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Spoken Wikipedia Reviews

Hiya Popular, I'll be happy to review some of yours! I'll start as soon as I can :) Maedin (talk) 00:02, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

But I'm a Cheerleader

Just letting you know that I've reviewed your recording of But I'm a Cheerleader. I was kind of picky, I hope you don't mind! Please let me know if it's ok. Thanks :) Maedin (talk) 12:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Meetup

Wikipedia:Meetup/Tampa -- You're invited! Hires an editor (talk) 20:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Black Seminoles Spoken Article

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I've completed a review of the recording you uploaded on the article Black Seminoles. Have a look at it and let me know if you have any issues. I think your spoken contributions are great, but I worry that I might be too picky, so if I am, I'd like to know :) Thanks! Maedin (talk) 10:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I actually do like making such detailed reviews; I'm not exactly sure why but I find it quite fun! And I think I tend to view it a bit like Wikipedia policy–references for everything! I would be really disappointed if someone reviewed my work, gave me a medium on accuracy, said that I made some errors, and then failed to say what, or where, or how many! So I like to "back things up", so that you and any one else can easily check and confirm what I say.

I appreciate you explaining your point of view on the reading of external links and notes, etc. If it's something that you've actually thought about and have made a decision to do it, then I won't keep mentioning it! I don't think the project page makes it clear whether or not they should be included, so there's nothing "wrong" with it, anyway.

Anyway, keep up the great work, and I'd love to see some heavily Spanish-influenced articles from you :) Cheers, Maedin (talk) 14:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back

I look forward to listening to more of your work. Axl ¤ [Talk] 18:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

		The Audio Barnstar
		To PopularOutcast, for dedication to spoken articles. Axl ¤ [Talk] 18:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate it. Probably TMI, but having illness literally takes years from your life, in between, not only at the end. PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 20:00, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry to see that. By the way, "TMI"? Axl ¤ [Talk] 20:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

:) TMI -- too much information PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 21:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thx :-) Axl ¤ [Talk] 16:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

A barnstar from the birds!

		The Spoken star
		To PopularOutcast, for your valuable work on recording 'Bird' FAs. AshLin (talk) 05:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Total bird fan here! Love doing them. I wish there were more bird FA articles of birds in the US. Thanks for the barnstar!! PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 07:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for Spoken articles!

I've listened to a handful, including two of yours, File:Confederate government of Kentucky.ogg and File:Hurricane Ismael.ogg, and I really enjoyed your clear way of speaking and the Spanish names you pronounce fluently in the second article are frosting on top. TransUtopian (talk) 22:59, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 00:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)Thanks!

I'm glad to see you. I didn't know if you'd read it but figured it wouldn't hurt. :) By the way, I noticed your most recent spoken article File:1968 Illinois earthquake.ogg isn't on your userpage. Do you want to update it or do you mind if I do? Or if you want to not deal with Wikipedia stuff, I won't bother you further. Also, I noticed your mention of illness above. I'm politely but sincerely curious about how you're doing. If you want to talk, feel free here or by email. TransUtopian (talk) 18:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Updated. Thanks for pointing it out. Tried to record the other day but my mic wasn't working right. As for the illness, no improvement. I will probably try to record again after the Olympics. PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 09:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Articles fill up most of my mp3 player time these days, and I keep coming across articles read by you. I can only thank you a million times! Thankyou x 10⁶ --Mrfoxtalbot (talk) 23:44, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

You are quite welcome! PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 04:59, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Introduction to viruses

Thank you for your superb reading and recording of this article. I was particularly impressed with the subtle way the important points were emphasised and your handling of the technical terms used. On hearing it read aloud, by someone other than me when writing it, I realised how clumsy words in parentheses can be and will try to avoid using them in the future. The sound file adds a new dimension to the article, which will make it accessible to many more readers. Thank you again for your hard work and talent. Graham Colm (talk) 10:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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	For the beautiful recording of Northern Pintail, today's featured article on Main Page. Shivashree (talk) 11:36, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Excitement! Thank you for alerting me to this and thank you for the Barnstar. I do love me some birds. :D PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 16:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I thank you for the happiness wonderful lady !

You have a beautiful voice for reading! Your voice is so clear, well enunciated and soft. It is *perfect* I heard your reading of:-- "Annabel Lee was written by author Edgar Allen Poe wrote in the year of (1849)" on Wikisource. Thank you for that wonderful reading of the poem. It really makes a big difference. Kindest regards, Maury, on Wikisource ( William Maury Morris II (talk) 05:42, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

You are quite welcome! I enjoy reading "out loud" when I have the time.PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 05:47, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

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	The Special Barnstar
	Thanks for your work with the Spoken Wikipedia project. I'm looking to contribute (and use spoken articles) and your recordings are great for helping me understand how it works! MarsInSVG (talk) 10:43, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Good luck recording! I haven't done very much in a while but am hoping to get back into it this year. PopularOutcast ^talk2me! 15:32, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Ferries in Wellington

You are completely at liberty to change my choice of words to your (I guess you will claim it to be) "encyclopaedic" style but you do the reader a disservice and you should reconsider this type of switch to what I will describe as your Wikipedianese. Eddaido (talk) 04:57, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

I was pleased to see you were making changes but I hoped for too much. Eddaido (talk) 10:52, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Eddaido, please see WP:OWN. Miniapolis 13:37, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

October 2018 GOCE blitz bling

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to PopularOutcast for copy edits totaling over 6,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE October 2018 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 20:02, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Great work! Oh, I had one other bit of advice: if you aren't already doing so, keep a personal cheat-sheet of guidelines from the MOS and syntax for templates that you find useful. There are a lot of little things that only come up in one of ten or twenty articles, not frequently enough to commit to memory but enough that you don't want to search for the guideline each time. – Reidgreg (talk) 20:02, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks and thanks for the advice @Reidgreg:. PopularOutcast^talk2me! 20:27, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Great job on the Peter Tuchman page!!

I enjoyed learning about him Bloger. :) PopularOutcast^talk2me! 23:40, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

MOS notes

Hi, I quickly went over a couple of your shorter copy edits for the November drive. Good work! Just some minor MOS notes, FYI:

• Killing of Susanna Feldmann
  • With dmy dates, you don't need an of (22 of May) or a comma. It's okay to have the night of 22 or 23 May 2018 or the night of 22–23 May 2018, depending on the meaning. If this is the night between the 'daytime' of 22 May and the 'daytime' of 23 May, that is conveyed by the dash. (This would seem to be the case from the later statement that the 23 May cellphone message was received after Feldman was dead, however we should only say what each source says and not combine sources to draw a conclusion per WP:SYNTH. As stated, the readers can draw this conclusion themselves.) The or expresses that they are uncertain of which night she died. Try to keep to dmy or mdy dates consistently through an article (that includes dm and md without the year).
  • I'm not really liking the period in Z. like an initial, though it's unclear if it stands for anything. But a cursory check of sources seems to confirm it's used as a proper name. (Wikipedia typically uses acronyms which are upper case without periods or lowercase with periods [so NASA but i.e. and e.g.], with the exception being initials in names which can have periods [P.T. Barnum].)
• Chunky (Bruno Mars song)
  • There was a little bit with quotation marks. First, there were some curly apostrophes in various quotations which I straightened (MOS:CURLY). You see these a bit where material is copy and pasted (and sometimes it can be a warning sign of copyvio). Then there was this quote: Andy Gill said "Chunky" was missing the "roguish and cheeky charm of Sir Mixalot's "Baby Got Back"." This is a quotes-within-quotes situation (MOS:QWQ). What we do here is nest the quotes by alternating with double quotes, then single quotes, then double quotes again (if necessary). We do something similar with nested parenthesis, using rounded parenthesis, then square brackets, then rounded parenthesis again. So in this case I put single quotes around Baby Got Back to distinguish from the quotation marks for the quote. It may in some cases be better to rephrase to avoid such situations (particularly in an article's lead).
  • "Chunky" peaked at number two on the New Zealand Heatseekers Singles Chart Normally with numbers, we express numbers 0–9 as words, numbers above 100 as numerals, and anything inbetween as either words or numerals. One of the exceptions to this is when it is likely that the reader would want to directly compare numbers; having them in the same format makes this easier (it would be weird to see a basketball score reported as 83 to seven). So with chart rankings, even if the numbers are in different sentences, the reader will still be comparing them and they should be in the same format. (Other exceptions are dates, years and ages, and numbers with abbreviated units [e.g.: 7 ft] which are normally expressed with numerals.)

Your prose work is really good and I appreciate your attention toward broader policy issues. Looks like you're in contention for some top leaderboard awards this drive, please keep up the good work! – Reidgreg (talk) 17:56, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Reidgreg Thanks so much for the detailed notes. I really needed this. Sometimes my interpretation of the MOS (or rather, what I remember it saying) is not correct. Like you, I don't like the period in Z. but the articles referred to this person like that and I was not sure if that was how the name was or if it stood for something. I got so caught up translating news articles about this person that I failed to think about what the MOS would have to say about it.

I did not know that about dmy dates. Thank you.

I did know about the curly apostrophe and quote within quote rule, I just failed to catch them. Do you know if there's a script for the finding the curly apostrophes?

I did know about keeping consistency with numbering between different sentences. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

Again, I really appreciate your time. PopularOutcast^talk2me! 22:19, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Sorry that I neglected to respond earlier! I see it in my notifications, too. My bad.

I don't know of a script offhand. Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Replace looks promising, if you're technically inclined you could probably modify it (in your userspace) as a one-click curly fix. I imagine more people set up AutoWikiBrowser (AWB) to do it. I once asked about getting a bot to straighten curlies across the Project, but then some folks told me that they use curlies as a copyvio indicator, so it's one of the many things that's better left to a human editor. (Semi-automating with a script should be okay, though.)

I think I've missed my chance to catch up to you for 'most old articles'. Please keep up the good work! BTW, our record low for the backlog was 716 articles in May, if you want to try setting a new record! – Reidgreg (talk) 22:46, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Reidgreg, Ha! I don't think I will be able to help that much though I think many of the articles left probably need a {{GOCEreviewed}} tag rather than a copyedit, so maybe we will get there. I also won't be able to do as much in the next few days.

Thanks for the info. I will take a look when I get a chance. And, yeah, a human editor should look. I found another copyvio today because the white space was weird ... if I had been using the visual editor only, I wouldn't have caught it.

Oh, and no problem on the delay. I don't have any expectations. Have a good weekend! PopularOutcast^talk2me! 22:59, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

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firetail

I was later than I thought returning to this and got an ec as I was part way through replying, so thought I would reply here. Having another look now, and already see the improvements. Cheers, cygnis insignis 01:37, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

cygnis insignis So sorry that I caught you in the middle of replying. I was debating if I should post to the talk page one by one as I fixed things or not just in case you were replying. There are a couple of things left to do and I am here if you need anything else. PopularOutcast^talk2me! 01:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

No apology necessary, this is has already been very helpful. I would have preferred that it was in better shape, less awkward phrasing and puzzling facts, but now I have another comprehensive source that may help to resolve the parts you've identified for improvement. The notes you have provided will provide a handy guide to refining the content, so would it suit you if I incorporated that other reference? BTW, part of my reply said vitamin C and zinc, for your cold, even if that fight was won. cygnis insignis 02:28, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Cygnis insignis, Sure, no problem. I'd be happy to copyedit it again after you add sources. I do know that it is hard to copyedit your own stuff. One of my expanded articles is actually on the request list right now! I think when you get too close to the subject matter it's hard to see it how someone new would see it.

Thanks for the advice! I did not have some Vitamin C in natural form today (from my lemon tree). I think I am crawling out of the hole of sickness. Still not at 100% but feel better than yesterday. I am itching to get back to lifting but I think it will have to wait until next week. For now I copyedit. PopularOutcast^talk2me! 02:35, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

I sometimes copyedit other peoples content while creating my own, to remind myself how to do it. I wasn't sure about procedure here: you have probably much closer to good article, I could go ahead and submit it as is, but with the standard text at hand our article is poised for FA review. I will work on it some more, then accept your kind offer.

Even better, lemon is acid then alkaline, you know your stuff. My other trick is a dab of local honey, which means knowing beekeepers if there is no well controlled local market, the theory is exposure to local pollen and botanical irritants. Nice to have met you, thank you again for the heavy lifting on the article so far. cygnis insignis 03:24, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Cygnis insignis, cool beans, I'll wait for your word.

I think my area has a lot of beekeepers. The local university extension office gives classes on beekeeping. However, I don't personally know anyone who keeps bees. I am more dedicated to the native pollinators. I do have plenty of native bees in my garden but they don't produce honey. There's a picture of one of the natives on my profile page.

I think it's bedtime for me soon. My body is shutting down. Nice meeting you too and ttfn. PopularOutcast^talk2me! 03:33, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

What an exquisite creature! I hear that Florida is full of rich habitat, much like the region where the firetail (and I) occur. I was just watching bees—native and honey—this morning, and wondering about the later arrivals changes to the local ecology. cygnis insignis 04:37, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Cygnis insignis, I wonder about that too. The government released a non-native bug to help stop the spread of a non-native vine. They tested for many years to make sure that the bug would not eat any other type of plant before they released into the wild. So far it seems to be working and it's a beautiful bug. It's called the air potato beetle and eats the air potato plant. Just looked at that page and it needs work. I may put it on my list to do.

Florida is definitely full of life ... I think many subtropical areas are like that. We have so many different birds that visit us or just live here year round. My current joy is the Baltimore oriole. They have found the jelly feeders and I get to see their beautiful bright orange bodies several times a day.

Welp, I woke up feeling like crap. We'll see if I fail better as the day moves on. Ttys. PopularOutcast^talk2me! 13:47, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

biological agents seems like a good idea if there is an off switch. And what a pretty bird, cute as a button and gives a lovely tune. I'm also old to remember typewriters, and still tickled how we can type a bird's name and find out everything about it. I'm not firing on all cylinders today either, it helps if I break up screen time when I'm not at my best. cygnis insignis 14:37, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Cygnis insignis, No, I'm not sick, I'll fail better as the day goes on. LOL. Granted, a US Southern accent (in some parts) makes feel sound like fail. PopularOutcast^talk2me! 14:47, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Probably my favourite region for accents, if I visited I would just walk around listening to people. And now you are quoting Beckett, stop being quite so interesting all at once :) cygnis insignis 15:10, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Cygnis insignis, Umm, I guess I quoted Beckett inadvertently. I know not of the Beckett you speak of. Literature was never my strong suit. And, no, you stop!

As for the accent, it depends where you are. Some is very melodic, some grating at least to my ear. There have been times when I didn't understand a word. I do prefer talking to people who speak the Queen's English because I get to say things like cunt without getting dirty looks. The hard c makes that word pleasurable.

So why are you a distinguished swan? PopularOutcast^talk2me! 15:33, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Not a recommendation to read, but the quotable q:Samuel Beckett said "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

The accents of eastern AU grate on me, the western voice is more droll than drawl. That word is powerful and effective, if you can gauge your audience, but saying it front of my sovereign will get you dirty looks (maybe even from me :). Calling a Prime Minister one is probably acceptable, for the other vernacular use of the word.

It is dog latin, that was once used a state motto and the subject of a poem that mocked its inhabitants. The reference is to the emblem, Cygnus atratus, an impossible creature but for the benefit of hindsight, and, as I can safely admit now, my dig at a slightly pompous fashion for latin usernames at the time. cygnis insignis 16:34, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Cygnis insignis, oooooh, he seems lovely. I have a need to read/watch Waiting for Godot now.

Note: I am horrible at gauging my audience.

As for your username, I think one of the reasons I picked your article is that I felt a person with a bird username would do well expanding a bird article.

Oh and from before, I learned to type on an IBM Selectric II. I miss the whirling ball. PopularOutcast^talk2me! 16:54, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

November 2018 GOCE drive bling

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		This barnstar is awarded to PopularOutcast for copy edits totaling over 60,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE November 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 03:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Articles, 1st Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to PopularOutcast for copyediting 65 articles during the GOCE November 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 03:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Words, 4th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to PopularOutcast for copyediting 47,099 total words during the GOCE November 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 03:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Long Articles, 4th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to PopularOutcast for copyediting one long article during the GOCE November 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 03:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Old Articles, 2nd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to PopularOutcast for copyediting 37 old articles during the GOCE November 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 03:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for helping to bring the copy edit backlog to a six-month low! – Reidgreg (talk) 03:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

December 2018 GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors December 2018 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the December 2018 GOCE newsletter. Here is what's been happening since the August edition. Thanks to everyone who participated in the August blitz (results), which focused on Requests and the oldest backlog month. Of the twenty editors who signed up, eleven editors recorded 37 copy edits. For the September drive (results), of the twenty-three people who signed up, nineteen editors completed 294 copy edits. Our October blitz (results) focused on Requests, geography, and food and drink articles. Of the fourteen people who signed up, eleven recorded a total of 57 copy edits. For the November drive (results), twenty-two people signed up, and eighteen editors recorded 273 copy edits. This helped to bring the backlog to a six-month low of 825 articles. The December blitz will run for one week, from 16 to 22 December. Sign up now! Elections: Nominations for the Guild's coordinators for the first half of 2019 will be open from 1 to 15 December. Voting will then take place and the election will close on 31 December at 23:59 UTC. Positions for Guild coordinators, who perform the important behind-the-scenes tasks that keep our project running smoothly, are open to all Wikipedians in good standing. We welcome self-nominations, so please consider nominating yourself if you've ever thought about helping out; it's your Guild and it doesn't run itself! Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators; Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Tdslk. >>> Sign up for the December blitz! <<< >>> Participate in the Coordinator elections! <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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