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And now, for Fvasconcellos' traditional nonsectarian holiday greeting!

  Wherever you are, and whether you're celebrating something or not, there is always a reason to spread the holiday spirit! So, may you have a great day, and may all your wishes be fulfilled in 2009! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:40, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Is this a combination of my Christmas greeting from 2006 and my New Year's greeting from last year? Why, it most certainly is! Hey, if it ain't broke...

Netzarim

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Help your fellow scientists?

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Clara Elsene Peck

Thanks for the peer review. Many good points that will help improve the article. Much appreciated. --Scott Free (talk) 23:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

FAR Sequence alignment

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Hi!

I just ran across a peer review you did and I rushed over here. Every once in a while I check your user talk, but it is always so quiet. I hope you are going to edit less "sporadically" now! :) Awadewit (talk) 14:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Heh, and here I was thinking 'sporadically' would be an upgrade! :) Good to hear from you again though. I've started to get more involved in other 'open science' type efforts, so it seems logical to pick up wiki editing again... or it would, if only I had a few more hours in the day! Opabinia regalis (talk) 20:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Coalesence theory

 

This is going to sort of be out of the blue, this formula does not seem to be correct. Here is an example of the output

 
N=10
t = 1 to 20
p(1) = 0.047561471
....
p(21) = 0.017496887

Above is an approximation of what the curve should look like. I am not sure but I think the it should be 1/t since the lambda is based on rate which is 1/t. I didn't change the formula, just wanted to know why it is not working.PB666 yap 04:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

You happen to have caught me at a good time! Hmm, couple of issues here.
1) There is a typo in the formula; should be   because we're doing the calculation for generation t.
2) This is a bad approximation for such small values of t and N as in your calculations.Opabinia regalis (talk
Hmm I tried it for 8000 and it, well, it coughed at reality. (at least the reality I was trying to get it to recreate) I'll explain the problem below.PB666 yap
3) The equation has the form  , where the expectation value is beta ( = 1/lambda = 2N). I don't quite understand your graph - probability of fixation isn't the same as probability of coalescence. Opabinia regalis (talk) 05:29, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Agreed but the 2N is frequently quoted as the time in generations to the MRCA. I know what the problem is I just dont know how it can be solved. The problem is that the exponential distribution assumes that any individual in a population can produce population size in one generation, which may be true if the population size is small or partuition rates are high. So for example in the graph above there are limits on progeny, producing a single female is 0.5 and two female 0.25. I have done this also were I have extended the distribution outward to as many as 6 female offspring in a balanced distribution, the results are similar to the above. Because there is a finite limit on progeny production (I think the record is 35 females in a population of 6 billion trials) one can create a poisson distribution to estimated the probability of X number of females. Therefore a given trial p(1)~ 0.5, p(2), . . . . p(35) = 0.000000000001 p(50) = 0. IOW for a population of 50 females it is impossible that all females will coalesce to one female in the next generation. For a population of 2500 females it is impossible for that the population coalesce to one female in 2 generations, however with the above formula the highest probability is in the first generation, ergo the formula contradicts observation. I suppose if we had Speckled Trout in a Bay, and a single trout could produce 1 million eggs, and there are less than a 1/2 million female trout in the bay then it is possible. I have tested this with Monte Carlo analysis several years ago (right after Vigilante published) and did a reanalysis after doing some modeling against some stone age life expectancies. The demonstrated that some females needed to produce more than 6 offspring for the population to remain stable in size. The graph above is close even if we extend progeny outward and if one consider 100s of generations the median of the cummulative distribution is at ~2.6N. I can show you a paper where these curves are used. I want to recapitulate the curves for an image, but I can't seem to find the formula (that way I am not WP:COPYVIO). I would hate to have to run a Monte Carlo analysis for 11,000 individuals and 5 million years (heh-heh).PB666 yap 16:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
This coalescence distribution is asking the question how long before any two random individuals will have the same parent, OK so but for a gene quasi-fixed in the extant population we are asking the question how far back to we have to go such that all extant members share an ancestor, and that is the first ancestor all share together. So that traveling down the tree there is the probability that two individuals are related in the next generation by several probabilities 1, the female had 2 female offspring (lets just say p(0)=0.25, p(1)=0.5), p(2)=0.25 therefore 1/2 of the individuals in the population can be paired to a common ancestor in the previous generation and half cannot, the process continues backwards until we reach the TgMRCA. If we make the assumption that by chance all of individuals have a valid sibling of the same sex in all generations of the lineage then minimum coalescent time is log2N in generations. The probability of fixation in T generations is p(2)^(Sumi=0 to T-1 2i) where

N is a value of 2,4,8,16,...... I think you can see what I am getting at.PB666 yap 16:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I found the formula, its in Wakely [1]:  

where

 
 

This is from Tavare (1984) and BTW if you know what it means or how to convert it to microsoft excel equation it would be greatly appreciated :^) (I think I can figure it out, I'll put that little metal hat on my head and bzzzzz).PB666 yap 21:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't use the above formula, they have substitute N, population size with n, number of alleles, they have substituted T with t which is the number of branch times. I have tried to applied both versions of the formula and the answer was always 0.PB666 yap 16:47, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

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And now, for FV's traditional last-minute nonsectarian holiday greeting!

  Here’s wishing you a happy end to the holiday season and a wonderful 2010.
Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:31, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

  A noiseless patient spider,
I mark'd where on a little promontory it stood isolated,
Mark'd how to explore the vacant vast surrounding,
It launch'd forth filament, filament, filament, out of itself,
Ever unreeling them, ever tirelessly speeding them.

And you O my soul where you stand,
Surrounded, detached, in measureless oceans of space,
Ceaselessly musing, venturing, throwing, seeking the spheres to connect them,
Till the bridge you will need be form'd, till the ductile anchor hold,
Till the gossamer thread you fling catch somewhere, O my soul."

—"A Noiseless Patient Spider" by Walt Whitman

Happy New Year Awadewit (talk) 05:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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