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IBS Group Holding Ltd.

Dear moderator, you have deleted IBS Group holding page from Wikipedia. By stating that it’s an advertisement, unfortunately I have to disagree with you, Mostly information posted on the Wikipedia page is neutral and talks about the company, IBS Group is big holding which includes more than 7ooo people worldwide. Please take a look at our peers pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wipro ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infosys . I used their pages as a pattern for writing IBS Group Holding Ltd. Page. Please explain me how do our pages differ, and how is that possible that pages which are mentioned above are allowed on Wikipedia.org, and our page is considered Advertisement. I call for your moderate sense and all the professionalism that you have to solve this problem otherwise I’ll ask you to take same actions against our peer companies. Thank you. Dmitry

My article "makigami" was deleted.

My article "makigami" was deleted. I've written three books on the subject. I don't understand why you consider it advertising. I believe the public would want factual information on the new technique. What are your thoughts?

You can reach me at

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Benjamin John Coleman

• You would need to find reliable independent sources (see WP:V) to show that you or your technique meet our standards of notability (see WP:N and WP:BIO). "People would want to know about it" is just too subjective a standard for us to use here - everyone has a different idea of what people would want to know about. NawlinWiki (talk) 00:23, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Cort and Fatboy Show

Hi NawlinWiki. Because you participated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Cort and Fatboy Show, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cort and Fatboy. Cunard (talk) 23:10, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Paul Kerensa

Hi there. I'm considering recreating the article for Paul Kerensa. There are quite a lot of references for this notable British comedian and screenwriter. For instance: http://www.chortle.co.uk/comics/p/581/paul_kerensa, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1772717/. Any thoughts? Excession (talk) 11:20, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Abuse Filter 58

I'm not quite sure how these things work, but why would adding an entry Banff Springs Hotel to List of castles in Canada trigger it? The user has made no other edits, current or deleted. Log at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=68427capriceatyahoo Thanks. BTW the hotel looks like a castle in the Scottish Baronial but not the Conwy Castle sense (but has always been a hotel). Peridon (talk) 14:28, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

The username contains "caprice", a common sockpuppet name of JtV. See users such as Caprice Kort (talk · contribs), Caprice from Mars (talk · contribs), etc. Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:17, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah, right. I was thinking it was the edit rather than the account that triggered. Thanks. Peridon (talk) 20:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

So ... does this mean that any new user with 'caprice' in their name cannot make any edits? —Soap— 00:24, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, now that we all know about it (including JtV), there's not much point keeping that one in #58, is there? I'll take it out. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Armenia Page

Hello, there has been recent chaos in the Armenia page, as one user dbachmann, has been constantly changing the map that had been agreed upon for months after some debate. I have the support of the main mod in charge of the page. I noticed you had changed the protection level of the Armenia page, is there any way to up the protection so he is not able to make such changes or so this edit war stops, and we can continue with what we had before?MosMusy (talk) 20:51, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Robert Tickell

Hi NW. On behalf of the article creator, can I request that this article be undeleted and moved to User BillyMoses\Robert Tickell so that the editor has a chance to insert references to help establish notability? He stated on Eekster's talk page that he was in the process of doing so [1] when the article was deleted, and since this is a fairly new editor, I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 23:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Done, page is at User:BillyMoses/Robert Tickell. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks NW. I will let the editor know about this.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 23:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Please salt Kerry McEwen

Hello again, NawlinWiki … The article Kerry McEwen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is about to be CSD#A7 for the third time today … since the author obviously cannot take the hint, could you please WP:SALT this one?

Happy Editing! — 71.166.156.113 (talk · contribs) _{23:53, 5 April 2011 (UTC)}

(talk page stalker) Already done! —GFOLEY FOUR— 00:21, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Filter 58

That filter seems to be producing a lot of false positives. Granted, a decent proportion of the FPs are vandals anyway, just not the type it's targeting. Considering it disallows the edit and the bot reports anybody who triggers it to AIV, a high rate of false positives is not great. I see you're about the only person who ever modifies it, so perhaps you could do some deadheading and leave only the most harmful stuff that really needs to be disallowed on there, perhaps exporting some of the rest to another filter? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:11, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• I'll take a look, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:40, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Rey Vy

Dear NawlinWiki,

I understand there has been a massive amount of deletion with articles based upon one singer that has been created possibly 20 times? If anything though, i am a new user who plans on creating an account on Wikipedia but, recently saw that this article was deleted. The article was notable and i was wondering just in case Wikipedians thought i was a banned user, if you could start the article yourself and then everyone else would build upon it. I saw some hits on Google including radio airplay.

Sincerely,

Im Soben

P.S. We can exchange emails also but, i'm afraid of privacy issues —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.175.222.156 (talk) 18:40, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

NawlinWiki, thank you for deleting that page and seeing through his disguise. Do you know how to find out if 213.175.222.156 is a proxy? I doubt he's actually in the UK. I did a scan, but don't know how to interpret the results. —Soap— 19:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

It's a proxy, see here for example. I've blocked it for one year. And with respect to Mr. Savy, because there was a previous AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarey Savy, and because of the repeated sockpuppetry and attempts to evade filters, the only legitimate way to start this article would be to go to Wikipedia:Deletion review and state a case there as to how this person might now meet WP:MUSIC and WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of David lee smith

A tag has been placed on David lee smith, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

redirect due grammar

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hang on}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Whiteguru (talk) 11:23, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Further vandalism by User talk:66.194.72.10

I note that you put a final warning at User talk:66.194.72.10, yet there have been further incidents on what is apparently a shared IP. User:HopsonRoad 03:10, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

User talk:FeloniousMonk

I noticed you did some oversight (not sure of the official name of what you did) to FM's page. If you look back through the history for the past couple of weeks, various socks have published his name and location. You eliminated some of them, but a few diff's still show it. Do you think you can clean up the rest with your Wikipedia superpowers? Thanks OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 19:15, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Wondering why our page was deleted

Just curious why our page for the Croydon Rangers Gridiron Club was deemed to to have given "No explanation of the subject's significance", or why we wouldn't be asked to provide one before deleting it? Longest running and most successful club in the state, one of the original founding members. Feels pretty significant to us.

cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happyhamburgers (talk • contribs) 01:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

See the note I left you on your talk page and WP:Notability.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah cool, you deleted it, nothing we can do about it.

What about getting the content back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happyhamburgers (talk • contribs) 23:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Yobi.tv

The page for Yobi.tv was deleted. I believe that this may be due to an interpretation that it was being used for commercial promotion. As you can see, I am a regular contributor to Wikipedia, and (I believe) have a clean record regarding usage and non-promtional content. I have at times added content to the Yobi.tv page as well. That said, I am a regular follower of Yobi.tv and believe it merits a Wikipedia page. Would it be possible to allow me to repost the page were I to remove whatever you believe to be the segments that you believe crossed the line. If so, could you please share with me that material so that I can monitor the page in the future? Sincerely, David A. Victor

Hi NawlinWiki,

I have made a first edit of the YOBI.tv page to try to address some of the issues you flagged. Could you please take a moment to look over the revision on my userspace at User:David A. Victor/YOBI.tv? I want to make sure that this is more acceptable.

I appreciate the opportunity to revise this.

You had asked me to include rationale for why the site is notable. My argument is that YOBI.tv is built on the premise of James Surowiecki's Wisdom of Crowds. It is, to my knowledge, the first contest (web-based or otherwise) to do so. As I teach Surowiecki's premise in some of my university classes, this is of particular interest to me. That said, I have no way of knowing if this truly is the ONLY contest to do so. Consequently, I have only put in a paragraph regarding THAT the site does so.

It is my hope that this revision passes muster. I can refine it further at a later date, but this is currently the exam period at the university where I teach and my time is as a result somewhat limited for the next week or so. That said, I wanted to post something up sooner rather than later.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts. David A. Victor (talk) 02:26, 15 April 2011 (UTC) DV

Check User

Are you a check user? 89.168.100.33 (talk) 00:08, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• No. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:30, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good 89.168.100.33 (talk) 10:58, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Saloni Jaju

Hey. Could you please mail a copy of the deleted article to p.rohan.naidu@gmail.com RonNaidu 08:57, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

• Done. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:01, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Wrestling double redirect

Hello NawlinWiki, I've found World Wrestling Entertainment roster on Special:DoubleRedirects and tried to fix it, but the page is protected. If you have time, you may fix it. Also, I think the article now can be unprotected again, because the protection is from August 25, 2008? Best regards --Cyfal (talk) 15:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed the double redirect, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:48, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Abusing multiple accounts

What is the evidence that someone from this IP address is abusing multiple accounts? --JWSchmidt (talk) 17:46, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• See log for edit filter 58 - this IP used terminology used recently (and exclusively) by User:Johnny the Vandal. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:47, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

"exclusively" <-- That's not true. You made a bad block. Please do something to correct the false block log entry saying that that someone using this IP address was abusing multiple accounts. --JWSchmidt (talk) 23:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• • See your email - NawlinWiki (talk) 00:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Revdeletes on my talk page

I noticed you revdeleting porn from my talk page. The following is the same as that and also needs to be revdeleted:[2], [3]. Look for anything with that same nude photo and revdelete it (in case this list is incomplete).Jasper Deng (talk) 03:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

• Done, NawlinWiki (talk) 03:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Some related things of interest: [4], [5], [6], [7], [8].Jasper Deng (talk) 03:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello, My article for "High Performance Beverages" was deleted, I know there is a site for Energy Drinks already, but this is for a class and it will eventually be deleted in 3 weeks anyways. My group is in the process of editing it and submitting it for our final. can you change this, Please? Morganf313 (talk) 12:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)Morganf313

Article help

Hello, My article for "High Performance Beverages" was deleted, I know there is a site for Energy Drinks already, but this is for a class and it will eventually be deleted in 3 weeks anyways. My group is in the process of editing it and submitting it for our final. can you change this, Please? Morganf313 (talk) 12:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)Morganf313 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morganf313 (talk • contribs)

ANI

FYI: An editor has started a thread at ANI[9] about an article you recently deleted. —DoRD (talk) 12:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Page Deleted

I would like to know why my page "Troopathon" was deleted. It is a new event and was in no way meant as an advertisement. After I saw Mark Levin's wiki page reference the event, I found it necessary to give a brief description of it... Can you please advise me on how I can create a page that is informative for this term and not advertising it. --Tbudowich (talk) 00:19, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• First, the article needs to be written in a neutral fashion (see WP:NPOV) and not as advertising or publicity for the event. Second, the event's notability must be shown by citation to reliable independent sources (ie, not the event's own webpage). See WP:V). NawlinWiki (talk) 00:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Mortgage Choice

I would like to add the company "Mortgage Choice", who are a list company http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/companyInfo.do?by=asxCode&asxCode=MOC . I don't know what was on the previously deleted page. Should I still go ahead? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avenig (talk • contribs) 01:52, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• The article was deleted twice, both times for being blatant advertising in violation of Wikipedia policy. The version I deleted, for example, included language like "we are committed to providing peace of mind". If you can write an article that is neutral in tone, and is supported by reliable independent sources, feel free to repost. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Would it be possible for me to access the last version so I can just edit the content to be neutral? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avenig (talk • contribs) 06:21, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• • Now in your userspace at User:Avenig/Mortgage Choice. As you can see, it's going to need a complete rewrite to avoid being an ad. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I have now rewritten the article at User:Avenig/Mortgage Choice . Please let me know if this is ok. Avenig (talk) 04:56, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

New York Times article on Kassem Gharaibeh

Hi NawlinWiki, On April 11th The New York Times published an article profiling the entertainer Kassem Gharaibeh including his photograph and quotes. You deleted a post about him on March 30th for not being significant. Would you allow it now? This is the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/11/business/media/11youtube.html?src=busln

He is also named and photographed in this LA Times article:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-0919-video-stars_l8209tnc,0,2471056.photo

An article in Global Post: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/macro/youtubes-newest-stars-video

His website: http://thekassemg.com/

His YouTube: http://youtube.com/kassemg

Thanks, JoeFelice (talk) 06:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• Given these reliable sources, I would say an article would be OK now. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:51, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

List of convicted Jewish criminals

Hi. I went to Deletion review and it said to discuss with the deleting admin. Your reason was "Recently created article that duplicates an existing topic: Bernard Madoff". I think you should agree that this is false as I had only started assembling the list for a minute when you deleted. I think you should undelete, and then delete for an appropriate reason if there is one. Regards. Bob19842 (talk) 10:52, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• Undelete and then delete again? That's just silly. Besides the A10 duplication, I agree with the commenters at ANI who think the article was a veiled anti-Semitic attack. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:49, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

There was no consensus at ANI and they reffered me to Deletion review, as did Requests for undeletion where I mistakenly went. Deletion review guidelines said to discuss with you. Your position is that you agree with one side at ANI, will leave the page deleted with spurious reasoning, and will do so because in your opinion it is "Anti-Semitic". Can you confirm that? Bob19842 (talk) 13:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

As has already been pointed out to Bob on the undelete request page, there's a fundamental distinction between "List of Jewish Nobel laureates" and "List of convicted Jewish criminals". Namely, that the first list is a verifiable and fixed number, whereas there are no verifiable standards for the second list, which could expand into the thousands upon thousands if you listed every Jew that's ever been convicted of anything, clear down to jaywalking. (I would say the same problem exists with the list of Aussie criminals.) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Is having a "fixed number" a standard normally applied to lists? It seems a bit odd to delete something on a dubious prediction of its size. Jaywalking would not be notable, even for the famous. Bob19842 (talk) 13:58, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

How do you know it wouldn't? Every time Lindsay Lohan does anything her mother wouldn't approve of, it makes headlines. However, there's an even more fundamental flaw with your proposed list, and that is that there is nothing about Madoff's crimes that has anything to do with being Jewish. To do this technically correctly, you would have to not only verify what the scope should be, but also you would have to rename it Convicted criminals who happen to be Jewish. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Bob19842 (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)::::Discussion continued at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kittybrewster#List_of_.28convicted.29_Jewish_criminals Bob19842 (talk) 15:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Bob's got nothin'. He can't find a single valid source that defines Madoff as a "Jewish criminal". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Discussion continued at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kittybrewster#List_of_.28convicted.29_Jewish_criminals Bob19842 (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Reservoir

Hello NawlinWiki,

The deletion of User:Manumura ‎due to (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) is unclear for me. This is my first article and I was still in the process of making corrections, actually even the title is not ment to be User:Manumura, but nlevel. So I tried to follow the structure of other similar wiki articles (e.g. Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill Architecture). Basically, the article talks about a solution to water crisis, as well as, who did the research. I had no intention to do advertising, so I hope you can help me modify my article in an acceptable way for Wikipedia. Thank you in advance for your kind understanding and help.

Yours sincerely, Manuela Mattarese Manumura (talk) 18:30, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for blocking all those socks that vandalized my talk page. They seem to be linked to User:Icpfags00, in case you want to do a checkuser or something. Thanks again! Gscshoyru (talk) 20:31, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Summit Bank

I think A3 there was a bit hasty; I'd tried to make it 'passable' to allow expansion. I'm pretty sure it is notable; I'm not clear how it fits in with Summit Bancorp - and may need merging. But I tried to add enough refs and context to give it a chance. It was A3, as made - but surely not after the edit/s I made?  Chzz  ►  22:08, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• Fair enough - restored, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:32, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks; I'll try to check back on it - but that may be several days. And it still might just need deleting; but still - it gives a chance. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  01:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Vaznecek and Sheynherz-Unbayg

Hi NawlinWiki, I noticed you just blocked Vaznecek as a sock. But while his latest surname pages are often a bit empty in terms of existing articles, I suggest we don't dump them all just because they were made by him. E.g. Baumstark has been tagged but this name exists with several notable people being documented on the German Wikipedia. De728631 (talk) 23:58, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• I haven't deleted any of his articles. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Article on newsXpresso

Hi, I've noticed that the newly created page was deleted, and I have modified a new one, how do I upload it? For your information, this is my first time creating a page, and it is a bit unclear what considered as 'Promotional" just by reading the guideline for average users. Anyway, hope to receive your feed back soon, thank you Tina (talk) 04:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Filter 294

Looks like a couple of false positives here and several others from Bob19842. I'm not sure what the filter is seeing to decide that any of these attempted edits are personal attacks; then again, I know next to nothing about regex. Cheers —DoRD (talk) 16:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Block extension for User:184.107.21.25

Other admins aren't listening. This user needs a block extension - 3 hours is weigh too short, considering the edit history of the IP's talk page.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Abusefilter

Looks as if almost 10% of edits are hitting the condition limit. Again, I'll deal with the smaller newer filters, but you'll have to make some serious cuts to the large regex ones. Otherwise I'll have to start hacking away at them. :) Prodego ^talk 03:09, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

• Did some pruning. NawlinWiki (talk) 04:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

• Excellent, looks great, much appreciated. Prodego ^talk 05:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

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IBS Group Holding Ltd.

Dear moderator, you have deleted IBS Group holding page from Wikipedia. By stating that it’s an advertisement, unfortunately I have to disagree with you, Mostly information posted on the Wikipedia page is neutral and talks about the company, IBS Group is big holding which includes more than 7ooo people worldwide. Please take a look at our peers pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wipro ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infosys . I used their pages as a pattern for writing IBS Group Holding Ltd. Page. Please explain me how do our pages differ, and how is that possible that pages which are mentioned above are allowed on Wikipedia.org, and our page is considered Advertisement. I call for your moderate sense and all the professionalism that you have to solve this problem otherwise I’ll ask you to take same actions against our peer companies. Thank you. Dmitry — Preceding unsigned comment added by DmitryIBS (talk • contribs) 04:02, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

• Your page, unlike the ones you cited, is written in a promotional fashion, starting with "IBS Group is the leader in Emerging Europe IT and Software Services". It's full of language about how IBS is the best at this and the leader at that. Given your username, I have to assume that you work for IBS, so you shouldn't be writing an article about it. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:44, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Removed one entry

I removed one entry you just added to abusefilter 294 since I had added it just one minute prior to that. :) Reaper Eternal (talk) 21:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Your deletion of How to Rock Braces and Glasses

The "fake" external links (TV.com and IMDb) as you claim were only there until more information on the show is released. I should have kept them hidden, that's my fault. Also, I'm sure you saw the two references that were there proving that the show is legit. Un-delete please. QuasyBoy 19:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

• Done, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 10:59, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank You so much. :) QuasyBoy 15:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Londen Fryar

Hi,

you deleted the article. He's playing professionally in Germany right now, so maybe he became relevant. I don't know if it was more than one sentence long, but if it was you could maybe restore it and I'll add his current career. -- 91.51.238.8 (talk) 12:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

• There was basically no content except his height and weight. Feel free to start a new page. NawlinWiki (talk) 22:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

smellinhelen

Hi,

You speedy deleted my first ever post.

I've been trying to figure out how to contribute to Wiki for ages. Then I find a legitimate missing link from a page on Energy bars where I can make a contribution because it's a local company and before I know it it's gone. The information was factual. I've no connection to the company. How am I meant to get to grips with Wiki if you delete posts without consideration?

Humf!

Helen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helensmellin (talk • contribs) 13:22, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• The article does not state how the company meets the notability standards of WP:CORP, and does not cite any reliable sources per WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:09, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Now I'm confused. One of the companies products is considered notable enough to warrant inclusion on one page but not notable enough for the loop to be completed?

I can provide some information that nobody else has yet done. It adds value to Wiki and it's impartial.

I thought that was what Wiki was about.

Maybe I'm wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helensmellin (talk • contribs) 07:42, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

IICRC

You are crazy! Stop deleting the IICRC page. It's not advertising!!! It's a huge organization....the ONLY Nationally recognized certification for the cleaning and restoration industry. You need to stop deleting this page. Did you even read it or research it?? The IICRC deserves a page!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenWikiMaster (talk • contribs) 21:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

WP:COI, WP:NOTABILITY, WP:TONE please.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Native American Journalists Association

I am Terri Hansen, a news reporter. Contact me at terri@terrihansen.com if you'd like to respond to assertions by the Native American Journalists Association that you deleted their page in Jan. 2010 owing to an alleged lack of notability. The page was reposted, only to be deleted a second time by another W editor, for ambigious copyright infringement. My deadline is tomorrow, Wednesday at noon PDT. This is your opportunity to respond on the record. Thank you for your consideration. (I hope this is the proper avenue to reach you, I saw no other way.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.160.249 (talk) 17:55, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

• This is the entire text of the article that I deleted in January 2010:

The Native American Journalists Association, based in Norman, Oklahoma on the campus of the University of Oklahoma, focuses on improving communications among Native people and between Native Americans and the general public.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.naja.com |title=Native American Journalists Association |accessdate=2008-11-19 }}</ref> The work of the association addresses Native communications and encompasses a wide range of issues affecting the survival and the development of the Native media and Native communications.

As you can see, the article does not explain how the subject asserts notability per our guidelines at WP:ORG. Also, the only source cited is the association's own website -- as a tertiary reference, we require citation to reliable independent sources, see WP:V. The later version of the article was deleted by another administrator because it was copied verbatim from the association's website, in violation of our policies against reposting copyrighted material, see WP:COPYRIGHT. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

hurryupharry.org

Hi,
I note you added the domain hurryupharry.org to the spamblacklist last November, apparently prompted by these five (suppressed) diffs.
Is this particular person known to be still active, or was he only known to you during that spree? If this is a long-term problem, would it suffice to blacklist only this particular link?
Cheers, Amalthea 13:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

• This is User:Runtshit, who is still (unfortunately) active. I suppose you can limit the blacklist to the particular link. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 13:16, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
  • OK, thanks. I'll leave it be for now, but expand the log note for future reference (no pressing problem at the moment, just some minor hoopla at Harry's Place). Cheers, Amalthea 14:10, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Shava (band)

I contested the speedy deletion. As per talk page of Shava (band) -

This page should not be speedy deleted because... --Probabilitydragon (talk) 21:00, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

In the criteria for notability -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)

"A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria: 1) Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1]"

This criteria is true for Shava. Just a couple of examples -

i) an article in City magazine, a very well-known Finnish urban free paper - http://www.city.fi/artikkeli/Shava+Shava+Shake/3640/?nosm=1

ii) an article in Helsingin sanomat, Finland's biggest newspaper - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=499144906489&set=a.473413286489.255316.190400411489&type=1&theater

iii) TV appearances in biggest Finnish TV channels - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsKiNBUCmYQ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYQcHXjLZ0g

iv) articles on various notable websites

Society pages - http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/12/13/guest-post-suomibhangra-the-good-brownface/ Kansanmusiikki.fi, Finland's biggest folk music information site -

http://kansantanssi.fi/ajankohtaista/arkisto/marraskuu-2010/esittelyssa-shava/

Probabilitydragon (talk) 21:03, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

As per guidelines for putting deleted pages back online - "If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below." I just did but got no reply - so I'm putting it back online. Probabilitydragon (talk) 21:21, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Contested deletion

The article Singapore Youth Festival Central Judging results for display/marching bands was flagged for speedy deletion by someone who saw the beginnings of a page minutes after its creation. I have since added the content, and yet it is still deleted. I hope you have actually read the article and checked the links before removing hours of work people have just invested?

The SYF is a major national-level competition amongst over 300 schools in Singapore, and this list is just one of the more prominent items I chose to put up. Checking the reference will have clearly shown that this is a national level event. In all my years in wikipedia this has got to be one of the most ludicrous deletions, I have to say.--Huaiwei (talk) 19:39, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Well then that is a personal judgement, because a national level inter-school band competition that has been held since the 1960s and involving thousands of people is clearly far more notable than cow-breeding and pie-making competitions in a US state. Even the guideline (A7) you have chosen to cite as reason for deletion specifically excluded articles related to schools, and all the more unjustified is your usage of that guideline since this is a list as part of a main article, the alternative being to plonk everything into one huge page. I have created plenty of lists in my history in this site, and in the only time such a debate has insured, it has survived deletion when others realised it is part of a main article. Hence I will appreciate your reversal of your unilateral decision, and if you wish, you can always flag it to go through proper AfD procedures to get third party opinion. Allow me to remind that speedy deletions are only to be used for very obvious, uncontested cases.--Huaiwei (talk) 19:53, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

• Fair enough. I've restored the article, and listed it and the Chinese orchestra results table at AFD. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:54, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Gin In Teacups

The article was speedly deleted, I assume based on your own personal rules for speedy deletion, as you could have assumed it was a page for "my independent production company who puts film on youtube". In fact it is not mine and it's not even doing films, and according to wikipedia's criteria for notability of a web related subject, Gin In Teacups satisfies at least two out of three criteria (it is stated ONE would be enough for the subject to be considered satisfactory of the notability criteria.)

1. The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. This criterion includes reliable published works in all forms, such as newspaper and magazine articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations

Some of the Gin In Teacups videos have been featured by the NME website. One of these features was also reported as a reference in the wikipedia article.

3. The content is distributed via a medium which is both respected and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster;[7] except for trivial distribution including content being hosted on sites without editorial oversight (such as YouTube, MySpace, Newgrounds, personal blogs, etc.).

As specificied by the end of the article, content from Gin In Teacups is also distributed by uk Music Webzine God Is In The Tv zine, subjecting it to editorial oversight, hence covering this notability criterium as well.

Given these explanation I'd ask for the page to be restored.

many thanks. Sheentylla (talk) 01:08, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a study

I am a Wikipedian, who is studying the phenomenon on Wikipedia. I need your help to conduct my research on about understanding "Motivation of Wikipedia contributors." I would like to invite you to Main Study. Please give me your valuable time, which estimates about 20 minutes. I chose you as a English Wikipedia user who made edits recently through the RecentChange page. Refer to the first page in the online survey form for more information on the study and me.cooldenny (talk) 03:53, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

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BTW-Thanks for blocking Ouhe. You prevented an edit war. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Illogicalpie (talk • contribs) 22:09, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Nawlin

Noticed that Robin Lane Medical Centre has just been deleted under the reasons "commercial advertising'.

The purpose of the article is inspired by the Kingsfund research document quoted which advises the need for primary care to evolve from a reactive to a proactive service if the future challenges are to be met. Robin Lane MC is one of the first to proactively make fundamental changes and in this respect is a pilot demonstrating changes, impact and sustainability. In this respect,there is a significant research component that will become increasingly significant once the NHS Health and Social Care bill is passed (which will put significant decision making powers in primary care). Therefore, the article is not about advertising, since patients choose GP practices by where they live or by contacting the NHS. The article is about Robin Lane as a future new breed of primary care, and about the medical centre itself which is pioneering the approach, and so their will be increased interest.

The article needs to be expanded to include more research, sources and information focusing on the change and interventions specifically.

Could you advise please?

Best wishes

Mevforbes (talk) 12:05, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

• Even if patients don't directly choose a clinic in the UK, the article needs to be written in neutral language (no "a new beginning" and the like), see WP:NPOV. Also, it's not enough that you (or I) think that a business is new or innovative. You need to find reliable independent sources (see WP:V) that discuss the business and that demonstrate why it is notable per WP:CORP. If you can do those, feel free to repost. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 12:22, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Cratey

I have not got a role in Cratey, and there was no link to a website promoting it and definitely not a referral link or anything along those lines. I was trying to provide factual information, for people who want to know a bit about Cratey before they join it or people who are members and want to know a bit about its past. Cashcrate is a huge company and it is in my opinion important for it to have a Wiki Page. Also, I spent hours looking at sources, trying to provide the best facts possible. Could I please be advised on how I should best improve it? Do I need more sources/images?

Please help!

Best Regards

Dojam1 (talk) 16:01, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

• Even if you're not making any money from the site, an article that is written in the tone of "Gee, this site is great, you should join it, here's how it works!" is going to be deleted as promotional and in violation of our policies requiring a neutral point of view. Also, and perhaps even more importantly, you need to cite reliable independent sources (that means not Cashcrate itself) that show how the website meets the notability standards set out at WP:WEB. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:30, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks for answering, Just temporarily could it be put back so I can copy and paste it then edit in my own time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dojam1 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

• Now in your userspace at User:Dojam1/Cratey. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:25, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the RD3 (and for watching my back). Geoff ^{Who, me?} 11:08, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

please delete Abbot Lawn Article. This is my family's private residence and i would like for it to be deleted.

Thanks, WM Abbot

• Deleted per speedy category g7 - it appears that the author is the only substantial contributor to the article. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:45, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Nawlin, Could you please block 206.176.108.132 (talk · contribs). He has repeatedly vandalised the article Chad. I have reverted his vandalism three times and if I do it again that will be violation of 3RR. Also can you revert his recent edits to the Chad page. thanks. mauchoeagle _(c) 19:54, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

• Schoolblocked, thanks. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

Hi, I am trying to add a collaboration software company that has been in business for a number of years. I understand that I have to make the page notable or indicate why it should be on wikipedia. I am not sure how I can do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adakshina (talk • contribs) 20:24, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

• You need to find reliable independent sources (see WP:V) that demonstrate how the company meets the notability requirements of WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:27, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I have at least 3 references from online magazines and newswires to offer notability. Will that not suffice?

• Depends on what they are - they need to be more than PR reprints. Please do read WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Also....

could you block this user: GeauxBreaux (talk · contribs). He has repeatedly added an image to this article Grilling. I removed it twice and he keeps on putting it back. I am not asking for a long block maybe like 30 or 50 minutes so he could catch him self, evaluate the image and see that it is a better image than the one he is adding. Thanks again. mauchoeagle _(c) 20:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello Nawlin, me again, ok so I just realized something. GeauxBreaux (talk · contribs) just violated the 3RR himself. I didn't realize that he had put the image o the article before. Thanks. mauchoeagle _(c) 20:49, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the move (Kirsten Price (musician))

Much appreciated. ApisCaelestis (talk) 21:31, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Kellogg Page deletion

Greetings,

Schlaude created a page on The Kellogg Conference Center for our class TC 210 at MSU. You speedily deleted the page and posted that the article didn't meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. The student has come to speak with me about the issue and would like to re-create the page, but is unclear exactly what you mean by "indicate why the subject is really notable." Is this done in the introductory section of the page? On the talk page? I think this a great opportunity to communicate with a newbie about how to properly contribute to Wikipedia, so I would encourage you to provide some constructive feedback instead of just quick deletion. The note on his talk page was much appreciated, but how to proceed was unclear. Would you mind posting a note on his talk page describing briefly what is expected? Thanks. Jaobar (talk) 20:24, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

• Will do. For your reference, the article itself needs to cite reliable, independent sources (i.e., not the center's own website -- see WP:V) to show how the center meets our notability requirements as set out at WP:N. NawlinWiki (talk) 00:33, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Traumatic masturbatory syndrome

I am aware that a page about Traumatic Masturbatory Syndrome (TMS) was created and speedily deleted today. I don't know who created it. I created the original page about TMS in 2004. The article remained until about 2007 when it was merged by vote into masturbation. Eventually the content about TMS was completely deleted from that article. (The history and discussion is somewhere in the talk archive for masturbation.) From what I can see on Google (about the first line), the page that was created today contains text from my web site HealthyStrokes dot com. I cannot see the rest of the article so I don't know what was in it. However, I can assure you that TMS is not a hoax. If you had done even a minimum of web searching, you would have found HealthyStrokes dot com, and if you had searched Google Scholar, you would have found an article about TMS by Dr. Lawrence I. Sank. (You might also look at the "articles" page on HealthyStrokes dot com.) I am OK with today's article being deleted; however, would you please change the reason for deletion from "blatant hoax" to "re-creation of previously deleted article" or something to that effect. By calling it a hoax, you are defaming a legitimate scholarly effort with sources going back to 1978, including some of the leading authorities on male sexuality. It is quite shocking that "blatant hoax" is the first arrow out of the quiver here. Please contact me through the HealthyStrokes web site if you wish further information or if you would like me to send you a 50 pp. PDF about TMS that will show you that it is not a hoax. I would have contacted you sooner but I only got the Google alert that the article was created a few minutes ago since my Yahoo mail was crashed all day.4.253.96.72 (talk) 01:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

• Deleted the edit summary per your request. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:48, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Another admin showed me the page and it was a dumbed-down paraphrase of mine.4.253.96.72 (talk) 02:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)++

Feedback

Hi there. Can you please provide feedback on the following? Click here

Michellecatin (talk) 19:19, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Article: Gwaai Edenshaw

This page was deleted while it was in progress, this is an I.T. assignment so we have limited class time to complete it. Can you also mark it to not be deleted again? it is a work in progress StaasG (talk) 21:14, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Vanatoru is back

User:Gilan42 (edit | [[Talk:User:Gilan42|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and User talk:80.58.205.97 Ban him! (Tennis Helper (talk) 13:49, 30 April 2011 (UTC))

• Got it - the edit filter that protects against this had been turned off. It's back on now. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 15:33, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Killjoy

No fair, I was having fun playing whack-a-sock ;)--Jac16888 ^Talk 15:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

• All yours - what did you do to wake up User:Hamish Ross? NawlinWiki (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh is it Hamish? Jolly good, haven't seen him in ages, even had a spot on his ED enemies list although it seems to be gone now. Right now its because of [10]. From the looks of things he's given up for now, shame really but not surprising--Jac16888 ^Talk 16:12, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

This is LONG overdue

		The Admin's Barnstar
		To the one and only NawlinWiki, whose diligent and tireless work fighting trolls and vandals make him the target of those same nincompoops, I hereby award this long-overdue Barnstar for your courage and good humor in the face of what sometimes amount to the most vicious personal attacks on the internet. You, my friend, ARE Wikipedia. PMDrive1061 (talk) 16:11, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I second that motion. --Closedmouth (talk) 16:15, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

• Shucks guys, I'm speechless. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:17, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Hey, you deserve it. So...how long do you stay fresh in that can? :P --PMDrive1061 (talk) 16:26, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Thirded, definitely the most effective vandal-fighter I've ever seen here. Without question. --NSH001 (talk) 17:36, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Your help needed

There is an obvious edit summary here that needs to be revdel'd. Many thanks. --NSH001 (talk) 17:36, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Courgette algorithm

Hi NawlinWiki. Please can you provide me with the text of the deleted article Courgette algorithm for evaluation. Thanks in advance. Widefox (talk) 21:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

List of indigenous peoples

Semi-protection and further revdeletes plz (particularly of User:Jasper Dang who is not me (Dang not Deng)) on this page.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)