User talk:Murderbike/Archive 5

HISTORIC PLACES IN WASHINTON edit

I might have some photos of places on the registered historic places in clallam county, such as the Elwaha dams. I think the Elwaha river bridge may be no more, but I will try and gets some. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigfathairymarmot (talkcontribs) 04:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Apparently I don't have any good pictures of the items on the historic places list, but the good news is I drive by at least 3 of the places on the way to work and many more are not far from areas I go to on occassion, so I will work on getting a few of them as I go, assuming I can remember my camera.Bigfathairymarmot (talk) 04:02, 9 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Everett Massacre edit

Thanks, that was me, forgot to log in, that's part of a big topic BTW. Mtsmallwood (talk) 01:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your complement about the Mosquito Fleet navbox. I've been trying to figure out a way to hide it on the smaller articles on an article by article basis, but I don't know the code, so if you can hide it, great. Right now it's set up to autocollapse if there's another navbox on the page, Bailey Gatzert (sternwheeler) is example. I don't think it's a good idea to hide the navbox on all articles though, see Puget Sound Mosquito Fleet for an article where IMHO it looks good expanded. Mtsmallwood (talk) 23:21, 2 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

(Belated) Happy New Year! spam edit

 

Here's hoping the new year brings you nothing but the best ;) Fvasconcellos  (t·c) 15:19, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

The design of this almost completely impersonal (yet hopefully uplifting) message was ripped from Riana (talk · contribs).
Please feel free to archive it whenever you like.

January 2008 edit

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Re: Americans in the Spanish Civil War edit

Where was the explanation given? I certainly did not see it. Had I seen it, I probably would not have reverted the edit. Actually, it was poorly written, anyway, and I intended to go back and rewrite it. But, you are probably right, and it does not need to be in the lead at all. My apologies. But, just for my own sake, where was the explanation given? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 02:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Well, that explains why I did not notice it. Perhaps a note to the anonymous editor would be in order, asking that he (or she) communicate a bit better in future---like with the use of an edit summary, etc. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 04:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Huh? edit

Usually you are entirely comprehensible. This remark was a bit oddly worded, especially the first part. Could you look at what you wrote & maybe try some rewording? I think there may have been some typos, or maybe you tried changing what you were saying in the middle of writing it and didn't quite get it right... - Jmabel | Talk 06:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, much clearer. - Jmabel | Talk 19:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Replied to your latest (re: "convoke") on my talk page. - Jmabel | Talk 19:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

otheruses edit

Sure; basically someone coming to the specific page wouldn't be looking for the disambiguation page. In more detail at WP:DAB#Usage_guidelines, point 3. -- Ddxc (talk) 01:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Beetlejuice edit

The former version spelled Betelgeuse's name both ways at random. The spelling should be consistent, whatever is chosen, and some form of addendum should be kept to resolve confusion. Serendipodous 04:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Scarlet257 edit

I'm with you on this. I see that you've gone back and reverted several edits on Special:Contributions/Scarlet257. How far back did you go? Do you need help? Wwwhatsup (talk) 20:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Back at it, I see. Wwwhatsup (talk) 20:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

One anon editor seems to have suspicions about Scarlet257's identity see here. Wwwhatsup (talk) 02:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Yep. Warning left on User talk:80.42.76.93. Wwwhatsup (talk) 08:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Blocked as a sockpuppet today. Makes sense. Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Confederación Nacional del Trabajo edit

I'm going to be focused on other things, and it seems like a couple of you are actively working on the article, which is great. If you need me again for something concrete on the article, let me know. - Jmabel | Talk 04:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Even "technically" homeless doesn't sound good. You OK? (I'd have emailed, but you apparently haven't provided an email address.) - Jmabel | Talk 05:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Good to hear it's "just technically". You may have told Wikipedia (in your preferences) that you don't allow people to email you. You might want to check on that. - Jmabel | Talk 05:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Tellez 1948.jpg edit

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Mount Baker edit

I have replied on Talk:Mount Baker. Black Tusk 04:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Do you think Mount Garibaldi would be good enough for a B-class? I'm not an expert on rating articles myself. Black Tusk 09:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

I agree. I'm the one who is expanding the article anyways, so I will add more citations. However, I can't seem to find much info on history. Black Tusk 20:12, 16 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Anarchism Task Force. edit

Hey There! I have just added my name in the list to join the Anarchism Task Force. If you need anything, tell me.Maziotis (talk) 21:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

I can see you have a good user page. I don't know if you are busy, but could you please edit my user page so that it looks more organized? I would really appreciate that. Thanks.Maziotis (talk) 22:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

When I asked for your help, my templates were all messed up. Meanwhile, I was able to copy the code from your page to form a table to put all the templates on the right side of the page ;) There is still a bar "|" next to the primitivist flag that i believe it is a mistake. Probably some extra "|" on the code. I can't figure it out.Maziotis (talk) 02:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Look in the history before speedy delete tagging. That article has existed for a few years now. I simply reverted it back to November 2007 to get rid of that ad-promo text. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

Hanford site edit

Hey, thanks for the help on the article. Some great suggestions + edits. Much appreciated. Northwest-historian (talk) 22:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Crescenti trout edit

Simple. "Crescenti" is common, but wrong (see hypercorrection). It's bad Latin - the name crescentii meaning "of [Lacus] Crescentius" - "from Lake Crescent" in plain English. "Crescenti trout" is like calling the New York ironweed (Vernonia noveboracensis - see Eboracum) "Noveborac ironweed".

And with all organisms, the SOP is, if the scientific name is dedicated to a place or person, use that for the common name if there are not good grounds against it (sometimes places get applied in error etc. There are many birds called capensis "from the Cape" which are really from India or Indonesia, because the Cape of Good Hope is where ships transporting specimens would stop and R&R). See for example the birds here (unequivocal common names for more than 99% of all liiving birds are available these days). "LCct" is simply the default common name, and anyone who knows as much as what a trout and a lake is will understand it - even if that person has never heard of the lake nor its special trouts.

I added a few things regarding the taxonomic status. Even though I am actually more interested in the Beardslee trout (but me stupid European cannot hold these darned Oncorhynchus apart - brook trouts and lake trouts and Lake Ohrid's trouts and so on are difficult enough...), about which I have a source I'll add sometime. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 00:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

(Citing - Google plus any old Latin-English dictionary would do ;-) But I think it's trivial - everybody knows either the name or that it's hypercorrect.)
Beardslee's: because that's the trout that got me interested in trouts, when I read about it as a kid. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 00:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
(Just checked Google Scholar for "Crescenti trout" - apparently not a name used among scientists to any significant extent.) Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 01:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

substing user warnings edit

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Translating help edit

Spanish legal documents are not known by its clarity, as you can tell =). Honestly, I don't know that la "Primera" (and capitalized) means. My first interpretation would be that it means the "Former" (la Federación Comarcal, being the noun preceding la "Local"), does that make sense? I wish I could be of more help. --the Dúnadan 21:28, 3 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Trinomial authorities edit

Saw your post from last year. Well there seems no easy and reliably working way. But Google can be used often. The starting point is - the ICZN treats specific and subspecific names as equals, because often species are sunk to subspecies and subspecies are elevated to species, and it is necessary to avoid homonyms.

So what I do in such cases is to check Google for the generic and the subspecific name. No specific name. This will yield results where the taxon is treated as subspecies, as well as any references to the taxon as full species. Because subspecies taxonomy was still nonstandardized as late as 100 years ago, the latter will be very common in older sources, which are closer in time to the original description and might backreference there or give the author directly.

Does not work always, but in the absence of a dedicated reference work it is the best quick fix around. It still needs backchecking: Though the rule exists that once a name has been used for a species or subspecies within a genus, it must not be given again to a different taxon in the same genus (and technically is binding for Linnean nomenclature), it is not always followed. Older names cannot be expected to stick to the rule of course (though they usually do). Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 08:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Solidaridad Obrera edit

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Joan Peiró edit

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wowza edit

I just read your profile and was amazed. An anarchist with green leanings and a vasectomy from the pacific NW who's into punk? Me too! And now I steal your badges, hehe. --Veganbikepunk (talk) 01:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, I think poverty prevents a lot of people. It only didn't prevent me through a typographical error with a health-care company. I'm in Portland.--Veganbikepunk (talk) 04:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Hello edit

Just thought you might be interested in this: Wikipedia:WikiProject Gender Studies/Feminism Task Force --Grrrlriot (talk) 00:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

List of anarchist websites edit

Regarding the question of WP:LINKSPAM, I agree with you that their is a possibility of it. I created it with a bit confusion. I thought such an article will be beneficial. You see wikipedia has no article on Anarchopedia. Though at present I have no account in Anarchopedia, I will create it. The Anarchopedia title is protected in wikipedia. And it can be considered as a bias or censorship in wikipedia. Anarchopedia also tells the same [1]. I thought by creating such an article, we will be able to gather those websites in one place which may not be suitable to have their own article, especially if their are articles like List of anarchist books or List of anarchist periodicals. However I essentially agree with you that their is a possibility of WP:LINKSPAM or promotional etc. So keeping that in mind, I have speedied the article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 09:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Reply


Your GA nomination of Anarchism in Cuba edit

The article Anarchism in Cuba you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold.  It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Anarchism in Cuba for things needed to be addressed. jackturner3 (talk) 14:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Essentially, I didn't see the fair-use template on the image, like you see here. Now, I may be being a bit overzealous, but I've run into my own problems for not having that specific template, so I figured it was better to overcorrect than to let it go and have a GA article with an image that violates policy. In any case, I can go ahead and promote the article now based on your corrections. -- jackturner3 (talk) 19:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Anarchism in Cuba edit

The article Anarchism in Cuba you nominated as a good article has passed  , see Talk:Anarchism in Cuba for eventual comments about the article. Well done! jackturner3 (talk) 19:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

{{Coast Salish in British Columbia}}/{{Coast Salish}} edit

Hi; please see Template talk:Coast Salish in British Columbia, the "Questions" section, and have a look over the listings of {{Coast Salish}} to see if I've got the WAshington-side listings right/complete; note also {{Indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast}} which isn't complete yet but which faces the same issues and/or may be prererable for the reasons I get into in the talkdiscussion (namely the presence of the Chimakuan/Quileute and Chinookans and the various isolates like Haida or others who don't fit in regional groupings like Nuu-chah-nulth and Kwakwaka'wakw and Tsimshian. On either template the government/First Nations section (First Nations here used to mean bandgovernments) there's US-side govs needed; I realize the ultimate link may be redirected to the same article for govt/people/reservation/language but for now it's delineating who goes where. Are all the various Puget Sound Salish peoples incorporated as governments separately, or are there larger-scale groupings like the tribal councils in BC? Just trying to get a handle on organizing all these entries, other than either geographically (N-S sequence) or alphabetically (which might be easiest). Also on the one template - the Indigenous PacNW one - names are given in indigenous spellings, on the {{tl|Coast Salish} one as close to their Wiki titles as possible (I made an exception for Nooksack (tribe)....which maybe should be the standard...it's just Wiki style rules like to disambig links, so if the indigenous spellings are preferred, then the respective articles should be retitled, just as Squamish people is now Sḵwxwú7mesh.Skookum1 (talk) 18:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Also please have a look at Salish Sea.....I really don't like it, and found it had been inserted unnecessarily in contexts like "the Northwest Coast and the Salish Sea" as if that meant anything anyone would know what it meant; "the Northwest Coast and the Georgia Strait", "the Northwest Coast and the Strait of Juan de Fuca", "the Northwest Coast and Queen Charlotte Strait" - all redundant, just as the uses this thing has been put to; it's a neologism IMO, as is the effort to push "Whulge" as a term to include the Strait of Georgia when it's a purely Lushootseed term; perhaps not even known/used by the Nooksack, Skagit and Lummi? Anyway, your input on the move/rename there; I'd just prefer Georgia-Puget Basin....even User:OldManRivers, who is Sḵwxwú7mesh, says there's not a common name for the body of water; and even then the body of water would only be the Strait of Georgia; the waters off Olympia and the waters off Quadra Island just aren't part of the same thing.....Skookum1 (talk) 18:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Skagit (tribe) edit

Hi; saw your adjustmeent to the Coast Salish template; I had three Skagit entries because there are three articles....but I see that Skagit (tribe) is for both; so either it's redundant and should be deleted, or it's the "ethno" page for the Skagit people, and the Upper and Lower Skagit pages should be for bands/reservaations/communities within that ethnic group. Is that right, or are the upper and lower Skagit ethnically distinct? If not, this is one of those examples where ethno content and organizational reality fall readily into the separated articles for government, people, community.....maybe. Anyway please advise, and thanks for the work on checking that over; I think {{Indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast}} is a bit more problematic, as its author has used indigenous spellings rather than the Wikititle spellings....Skookum1 (talk) 22:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Reply


Image copyright problem with Image:Nihon Go Gakko - Tacoma.jpg edit

 
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Ferry County, Washington NRHP edit

Thanks, though Im not having a lot of luck finding information on the last ?3?, two bridges and the Curlew School. O well

BTW I created Ashford Mansion just now, would you look it over and make sure I didn't mess anything up to bad. I'm still not comfortable with citation template formating. Thanks

PS nice Sabalites picture from the Chuckanut formation on Commons --Kevmin (talk) 08:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)Reply


New Ferry County Article edit

I just finished creating and expanding an article I have been meaning to get to for a couple of months, Ferry County Carousel. As it is 1:30am right now I don't totally trust myself not to have missed some errors. When you get a chance next could you please take a look and critique it? I know there have to be other categories for it but I cant think of any. Thanks in advance --Kevmin (talk) 09:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Melmont, Washington edit

  On 23 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Melmont, Washington, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 07:23, 23 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Hey Joe, I don't know how much time you have for this, but if we're interested, discussions are being had over at the NRHP project about standardizing the tables for these lists. I've started doing Pierce County's in my sandbox if you want to see what we've come up with. Oh yeah, have you been following the Ballard Denny's story? Hope you're well, Murderbike (talk) 00:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Looks good, but I'm probably not willing to put this amount of work into the King County list in the near future. - Jmabel | Talk 18:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Yakima Park Stockade Group edit

And i was likewise surprised to see some description and a pic for this site in the List of Registered Historic Places in Pierce County, Washington, after I had added a different description starter to the WA NHL list, and just before I had saved a discussion response to you at WP:NRHP talk. I did not intend to start this article or any of the other WA NHLs for you, but it happens I was marching through the last of the National Park Service sites described eloquently by one Laura Soulliere Harrison, today. For example, I just beforehand created Bandelier CCC Historic District‎ and National Park Service Southwest Regional Office in New Mexico, and I added her footnote info to articles on some other scattered National Park buildings. I figured it was easier to create the Yakima article and put the same stuff into that, than it would be to tell you you should do it. Cheers, doncram (talk) 00:16, 26 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

About historic districts, I admired Daniel Case's coming forth with Hudson River Historic District, all at once. A more pathetic example is Geneseo Historic District, which i started and which is incomplete. I wasn't that confident or interested in proceeding with describing each of its contributing properties, for which I had info from the NRHP doc. It's nice to be able to state the count of contributing and non-contributing structures/properties in a district, but it's wide open about how much description you need to provide for any of them. Have fun. Oh, and i admire that you actually go to a library to do research. :) doncram (talk) 00:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Cahokia edit

Hey Murderbike- Yeah, that seems completely reasonable. I'll keep looking for a relevant Grand Plaza citation- I think it IS the largest, but clearly we need a reputable secondary source on that. It has been bugging me for a couple months now. Happy editing. TriNotch (talk) 04:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

MONKS MOUND DESTRUCTION edit

You removed a reference to the Monks Mound destruction under the claim that wikipedia or photobucket is not a reliable source to show that the actions were controversial. Another source you should look at is the Wotanging Itcke Vol 15.051. I recommend this citation for validity that the "excavation" is not appropriate. It also was shown in the article entitled "Accelerated Soil Erosion" located: http://soil.scijournals.org/cgi/reprint/66/6/1911.pdf that soil erosion has not been a problem since farming and plowing has stopped on mound surfaces. The article located on Lithic casting lab about the fiaco also shows that this year was a drought.Marburg72 (talk) 01:55, 2 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

I beg your pardon edit

I welcome your recent contribution to the description of Chinook Point at List of National Historic Landmarks in Washington. Adjustments of that sort are critical to refining articles and making Wikipedia an encyclopedia we can all be proud of.

However, as the original author of the Chinook Point description, I wish to let you know that I intensly resent the edit summary "de-racist-ify description". I clearly understand the historic double-standard in application of the word "discover", and I do not and can not support an encyclopedia entry that demeans any ethnic or racial group. For these reasons, I specifically dwelt on the word "discovered" before including it in that initial version of the description, debating whether it would be appropriate or improper in this context. In the end, two points overcame my discomfort: (1) It was the same word used (as "discovery") in my source document (National Park Service. "National Historic Landmark Program: NHL Database". {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)), and (2) the discussion at Discovery (observation)#Exploration presents uses of the word that do not imply denial of prior occupation or awareness of a location; I carefully linked to the latter discussion. What I did not do, however, is wantony apply certain received assumptions about European expansion in North America, thus exposing some sort of racist predisposition.

May other editors challenge or change the particular wording I used? Certainly. Perhaps I made a bad call, or perhaps other approaches simply improve the text. Does this mean those editors also may question my moral fitness? No. I hope and expect that other editors will assume my good faith.

I hope that in the future you will more carefully consider what you know of prior editors' ideas and thoughts before you label their contributions with such incendiary characterizations. Ipoellet (talk) 17:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Olive branch accepted. If I hadn't been so quick to get my back up, I would probably have deduced your actual intentions before banging on you like that. So, peace settled and thanks for engaging with me. In any event, you are probably correct that my logic was too subtle for the context, and that your change did clarify matters.
I've taken a bit of a break from the NHL articles, but I plan to be back sometime. When I do return, I'll be working on elevating List of National Historic Landmarks in Oregon to FL status, and I'll be very excited to help you do the same with Washington, despite that state's inferior status on the wrong side of the Columbia. ;-)
BTW, I grew up in Michigan and Iowa, and I can assure you that the various prejudices embedded in education and society are certainly no less ingrained in the Midwest than the West. Ipoellet (talk) 21:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Marmes Rockshelter edit

Hey, I took a look at your work, and it looks good. I went ahead and added some details and made some minor changes. Since the site is still presently recognized as existing (it is inundated but not destroyed), present tense should be fine. I think you should go ahead and take it out of your user space and put it into an article. I would have done it myself, but it seemed somehow presumptuous to invade another's user space like that (I felt invasive enough just editing in there). The article would benefit from a little reorganization and a few more details on the excavation, which I may add if I have time. This is an important site- I'm glad you've taken this project on. Oh, and thanks for the compliment about my attitude towards archaeology! You appear to be an editing dynamo, and I'm glad to collaborate with you. TriNotch (talk) 20:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

awesome story about that site. amazing, it is a National Historic Landmark and they accidentally let it get drowned! good for a DYK factoid if u put it up for DYK right now, and/or I will surely use it elsewhere as an anecdote about how NHL designation does not provide miraculous protection. good work! doncram (talk) 06:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Your note edit

I think it's the same person who's been editing with a variety of user accounts, all blocked for sockpuppetry, and who has had these issues explained to him already. By all means try again if you would like to, but I feel as though I'm talking to myself. SlimVirgin (talk)(contribs) 03:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Marker 1 edit

I do have a picture of marker 1 in Point Roberts. How do you want me to send it to you, posting to wiki is a pain?(talk)

Anderson Island edit

Anderson Island is an island (obviously :-) The county templates are used for municipalities, governmentally-recognised areas such as townships (in states that have them), and various types of unincorporated communities. The basic reason that I'm not treating the islands that you noted as communities is that they focus on the island, not the community. Aside from the content of the article, a big reason for this is the name: communities in the USA are required to have the state's name included (for example, "Bow, Washington"; the standard way for naming other places (such as islands) is to have simply the island name, with the state name only given if necessary, and in parentheses — for example, Hart Island (Washington). It would be different, say, if the article were moved to something like "Anderson Island, Washington" and the contents refocused on the community rather than on the island, or if there were two different articles, but as is the article isn't the type of article that the county template is meant for. Nyttend (talk) 21:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Green Scare edit

Sorry about adding too much info up on there originally under the operation backfire section, I forgot it was an introduction. I haven't edited any of the other profiles on there (only addded those that weren't there before), but will get round to writing the additional bit about Leurs sentence being reduced. I apologise if it seems that I have been alienating writers, I haven't intended to interfere with anything else anybody else has written or anything, just tried to include a few additional things. Blueberrypie12 (talk) 21:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

WA vs. MN lists of NHLs edit

You commented elsewhere, "I'm curious what it is that separates the Minnesota list from the Washington list." I think you were refering to the MN list having B-class rating while WA list has just Start-class by the rating scheme that I am using. In that rating scheme an NRHP list-article bascially gets B-class when every one of its NRHP articles indexed has hit Start. (There are some other requirements too, but that is the main one.) The MN list-article was the first one to get there. Every one of its NHL articles has a link to the corresponding NHL webpage. Almost all have NRHP text/photo set PDF documents included, and if they don't it is not for failing to try (the only articles that don't have those PDFs are the NHLs where those PDFs are not available on-line at the NPS).

A few of the WA NHL articles need development, by adding those references and perhaps otherwise, to justify their getting Start rating.

Hope this helps, doncram (talk) 02:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Nihon Go Gakko (Tacoma) edit

Okay, how's this: [2]? Sorry, I couldn't tell why the old version [3] had "Japanese Language Schools" bolded, it made it look like Japanese Language Schools was supposed to be a redirect there or something. The name "nihongo gakko" literally means "Japanese Language School" anyway ("Nihon Gogakko" is a rather odd way of spacing it; guess some back then came up with this way of writing it in English). Cheers, cab (talk) 02:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

  On 3 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nihon Go Gakko (Tacoma), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel Case (talk) 23:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

DYK edit

  On March 3, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Marmes Rockshelter, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 03:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Mutualism source dispute edit

Yo hombre, if you've got a minute, would you mind having a look at this discussion? A source's reliability is in dispute and the question is whether it should stay in or not. I was going to remove it on the grounds of "if in doubt, leave it out", but I wanted more consensus. скоморохъ 18:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Good idea; we might want to post it to the reliable sources noticeboard if there isn't a swift response. скоморохъ 18:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Have fun edit

I'm out. There's real work to be done, elsewhere, where the rules don't protect every vandal with a web browser. Feel free to make use of the resources at the Libertarian Labyrinth. Libertatia (talk) 20:04, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Lakewood, Washington edit

You've contributed a lot to Puget Sound area articles. Would you be willing to take a look at the debate I'm having at Talk:Lakewood, Washington and do whatever you think is best? Travisl (talk) 16:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)Reply


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Barnstars survey edit

Hi Murderbike. I'm running a small survey about wikipedian barnstars. If you have the time, I would really appreciate you taking a look and participating. The survey can be found here. Thank you! Bestchai (talk) 01:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

SSP case edit

I am just writing to inform you that BGMNYC has renewed his accusation that you and I are sockpuppets at his SSP case. I feel as though raising such concerns on the SSP board (even in a complaint about oneself) requires notice, but I assume he would not give you any, so I have done so. Regards. --Cheeser1 (talk) 09:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)Reply


Collapsable sections edit

Hi! You have done considerable work on the {{Anarchism sidebar}}. There has been considerable discussion on the issue of the collapsable sections of templates like that one. I created a centralized place for discussion about this issue here. I hope you can bring your views to the discussion. - C mon (talk) 18:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

WA governments/ethno/language articles edit

Howdy. Saw your refit of the Native Amercan history cat on the Marmes Rockshelter article, I guess you've noticed my various Category:Native American governments in Washington shifts; but many articles n question are still also-ethno articles. I don't have the time or knowledge, but suggestng here that, if you would, take the tme to "stub off" the tribal governments from the tribes themselves, also from the languages and even teh reservatons; many articles are four-in-one right now and shouldn't be. I have some "chores" to do in real life today (I'm hunting for new digs pronto...) so don't have the tme to even begin, but I could come up with a list of the intricacies of these and some of the needed/suggested splits; situations lke the Colville and Kootenai are especially tricky, but I'll explan more why later...."physical reservation" articles should be geographic, lke a muncipal or regional article, which is why Colville Indian Reservation isn't an appropriated palce for the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation to redirect to; the latter is a government, the former a territory; there's no Colville language article fror the new creole spoken there but perhaps there should be, but I'm not a linguistics type who could come up with it. Anyway Squaxin Island Tribe is an example of a government articles wth various sub-ethno articles (e.g. Sahewamish) but most olf those aren't lnked there; "Squaxin" is not an ethnicity, though, right? Anyway, tme to eat and get out of here...maybe the palce to start is with your Nooksack/Nows'a7ax (sp?); I thnk there's a separate language article, but could you pen a separate one for the government vs one for the people, ditto for the actual reservation?.Skookum1 (talk) 19:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC)Reply