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Song that Doesn’t End

You need to fix the page for Lambchops song that doesn’t end. You have the lyrics wrong. Do a simple YouTube search and listen to the song. Kplummer08 (talk) 09:21, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

This comment should be made at the article's talk page, not here. Be sure to offer a link to a source for your opinion; I see there are several online. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

User:MTATransitFan

user:olsen24 is sockpuppeting as user:MTATransitFan and is persistently vandalizing MTA Regional Bus Operations bus fleet. SportsFan007 (talk) 22:50, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hold up, what? I'm not sockpuppeting! I was the one trying to ban Olsen's sock. I'm also not vandalising, just fixing either wrong names or wrong info (there have been quite a few new buses delivered recently.) Best, MTATransitFan^Chat! 23:26, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

User:SportsFan007, in the first place, User:MTATransitFan is very unlikely to be a sockpuppet. They have been here since June and have more than 1000 edits. But if you seriously think they are, and have evidence, you should report them at WP:SPI, not accuse them on a talk page. In the second place, do not describe their edits as vandalism, because they are not. They are a content dispute, a point on which the two of you disagree. The two of you need to work it out on the article’s talk page, and provide evidence for your version in the form of references. You must not edit war by reverting each other at the article. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Douglas V. Mastriano article

Your semi-protection of the Douglas V. Mastriano article (the third such protection) has expired, and within the same day two new WP:SPAs have started editing the article in ways that concern me. I believe you are quite familiar with the situation, and I note the prior discussions at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive266#Douglas V. Mastriano, Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive302#Disruption at Douglas V. Mastriano and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Majorbuxton/Archive. Also a ping to Hyderabad22 and Eggishorn. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:50, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected for two months. If you think the two new accounts are socks I'll leave it up to you whether to report them at SPI. -- MelanieN (talk) 00:05, 4 December 2020 (UTC) P.S. Thanks for the links to the previous discussions and actions, very helpful! -- MelanieN (talk) 00:13, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Yes, I suspect sockpuppetry, but I'm not very familiar with the reporting process and haven't yet done a careful review of the similarity of those edits to others. I do see some similarity between one of the new edits an an older one, but I won't get more specific about it to avoid a potential privacy issue. I haven't yet restored some of what was deleted, as I'm not yet sure whether restoring it would be appropriate. — BarrelProof (talk) 01:12, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, Hyderabad22 was pretty comfortable with filing SPI reports. But these two accounts are so new - just a few edits apiece, and now prevented by semi-protection from doing even that - that it might not be worth pursuing; there might not be enough evidence to make the case. At this point the article will not be subject to questionable edits, at least not by new or unregistered users, and that meets the main goal. -- MelanieN (talk) 02:38, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I agree with BarrelProof based upon the nature of the edits and my familiarity with the previous kinds of edits the sockpuppets had done. I think a checkuser request would be appropriate. Insisting on reinserting the medals section has been a particular point all sockpuppets were concerned with if I recall correctly. Would you like some help building a case here BarrelProof? Hyderabad22 (talk) 07:31, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Hyderabad22, thanks for your note. If you two want to build an SPI case, I'd ask you to do it somewhere else rather than on my talk page. You could use one of your own talk pages, or create a "User:Yourname/subpage" for it. You could even work it out by email if you'd rather do it off-wiki. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:21, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

MelanieN, BarrelProof I just went ahead and reopened a SPI for the two accounts. Based on the use of the exact same citation in the exact same incorrect way in the reinserted medals section I think this a pretty open and shut case. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Majorbuxton Hyderabad22 (talk) 07:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Hyderabad22, I see that you didn't request checkuser. I think you should. The evidence via diffs in this case strong but limited; also, a checkuser search can help to reveal sleeper accounts. Actually, I think I will go there and suggest it, but you should be the one to change "checkuser=no" to "yes" in your filing request. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:22, 10 December 2020 (UTC) Never mind. Now that I look at the archive, I see that checkuser was declined in the past because the original account is so old. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:24, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Question, though: I see you listed PolandSpring as a suspected sock but did not provide any evidence. You did provide evidence linking Xenophon to DrWillow who was blocked in the previous case, suggesting a link there, but I don't see much/anything against PolandSpring. I suggest you take another look at this report. Meanwhile I'm going to ping User:Wugapodes since they have evaluated this situation once before; they were the one who blocked DrWillow and the others in the earlier case based on behavioral evidence. Wug, any thoughts this time? -- MelanieN (talk) 16:39, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping, I'll respond at the current SPI — Wug·a·po·des​ 23:23, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Deletion request

Hi Melanie. You're an admin, right? Would you mind deleting File:President Trump Presents the Medal of Freedom to Lou Holtz.jpg? It is a copy of an image which is already in Commons. Thanks. Mgasparin (talk) 22:32, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Mgasparin. Sorry, but you should ask someone who regularly deals with files. I don't. (Maybe one of my stalkers will do it?) -- MelanieN (talk) 22:35, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

That's fine. It seems someone else already got to it. Mgasparin (talk) 01:21, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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Draft Review Request

Dear Melanie,

Could you please review the Draft AKL and provide your valuable inputs on resubmission of the Draft please. Few editors helped me to add additional details and references to the page. I'm learning and I shall keep working to get the page better. Please advise, Thank you so much.Adapongaiya (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:28, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Adapongaiya, and thanks for the note. I am not a new page reviewer, so when you are ready to submit it as an article you should use the regular "Finished drafting? Submit for review!" button. I see that you have added some filmography and references since April so that is good. I just have a couple of comments, things that need to be fixed before you submit the article for review:

• The issue of his name needs to be explained. You title the article with all three names, but in the lead sentence and the infobox you call him Ashwin Kumar L. That is a version of his name I did not see in the references I checked. In the two Times of India references, this one refers to him in the headline as Ashwin Kumar and then by all three names in the article text. This one refers to him simply as Ashwin. So does this. So does this. In an internet search I could not find a consistent use. He seem to use "Ashwin Kumar L" primarily in Twitter and Facebook. Even there, he cites movies that refer to him as Ashwin Kumar.
• What is his relationship, if any, with the actor Ashwin Kumar? Are they the same, or are they two different people? We have a full article here for Ashwin Kumar, but his filmography seems to be quite different from AKL's so I am guessing they are different people. Are they related? That needs to be cleared up. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:10, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Melanie for the follow up. It means a lot to me.

• Since we have many 'Ashwin Kumar' in the industry, I have used his full name - Ashwin Kumar Lakshmikanthan (To be unique, where Lakshmikanthan is his surname).Yes, you are absolutely correct, as you have identified many of the articles covering his body of work refer to him as Ashwin Kumar or Ashwin or Ashwin Kumar L. He seems to be using "@Ashwinkumar_ak" for his IG and "Ashwin Kumar L" for FB and Twitter. As you had advised me earlier, I would like to be very careful this time and get it right. Probably I can add a picture to ensure correct identity ? If you have any other suggestions, please let me know.

• Also, he has no relationship with the actor Ashwin Kumar. They are not related. They are two different people. (Adapongaiya (talk) 23:42, 12 December 2020 (UTC))

Adapongaiya, I think you should use the full three parts of his name in the first sentence and in the infobox. That's what the article is titled, and most sources don't use the "L" format. You could add (sometimes known as Ashwin Kumar L) to the first sentence if you want. As for a picture, I doubt if you could find a picture that we can use. You can't just take a picture from the internet, because they are all copyrighted and we are not allowed to use copyrighted material. -- MelanieN (talk) 00:06, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Melanie. As suggested, I have updated the first sentence and the infobox to use the full three parts of his name and I am not uploading a picture. Could you please check now. Thanks again (Adapongaiya (talk) 02:23, 13 December 2020 (UTC))

That was all I had to advise. If you think it is ready you can submit it for review. -- MelanieN (talk) 03:08, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Melanie - Sorry to ask you this, I'm nervous. Is the draft ok or needs some more working, your thoughts please.(Adapongaiya (talk) 04:14, 13 December 2020 (UTC))

That's all I can help with. If you feel like you need more advice before submitting, I would suggest you ask someone who knows Hindi or Tamil, since I assume that is what many of the references are in. @QEDK, Tito Dutta, and SpacemanSpiff: this is a new user who needs help with a draft; do you have any suggestions? Maybe help with references, maybe suggestions about how to handle the fact discussed above that there is another actor with a very similar name? -- MelanieN (talk) 04:24, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't believe the references pass WP:GNG. Going to the SNG WP:ACTOR, there's one major role in a six month long soap opera (rest are uncredited roles/cameos in films). The two references (Tamil) in Dinamalar are about him but not in-depth, more like page fillers. At this point, I don't think he passes the SNG either. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 05:13, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Does not meet GNG and can be barely construed to pass SNG (I can't read the Tamil sources), in any case, I doubt this will survive AfD if given the chance. --qedk (t 愛 c) 11:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Melanie and Spaceman, I shall keep working. Good day! (Adapongaiya (talk) 15:03, 13 December 2020 (UTC)).

Barnstar

	The Working Woman's Barnstar
	Congratulations on your good work! 172.58.92.59 (talk) 00:54, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! -- MelanieN (talk) 01:00, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Lake Murray (California)

Hi Melanie - it's been a while. Hope all's well. Would you mind re-protecting the Lake Murray page? Not 2 days after the protection lapsed, we get this edit. Odd folks out there! Thanks. Dohn joe (talk) 01:09, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Dohn Joe, nice to see you! I gave it indefinite PC this time. This is a longstanding problem, and clearly they were just waiting to resume their game - after a full year of PC protection they knew the very date when they could resume! Thanks for the suggestion. -- MelanieN (talk) 01:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Melanie - have a good holiday season. And if you go to Lake Murray, beware the mermaids! :) Dohn joe (talk) 16:44, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Dohn joe: Have you considered the possibility that it might be a mermaid making the changes? After all, On the Internet, nobody knows you're a mermaid. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Thom Huge protection

Hello, I wonder why the page Thom Huge must be fully protected rather than semi-protected (since the AfDs were undone by IPs in both instances). Or would WP:ECP work better, since that wasn't an option back in 2015? -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 16:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Brainulator, thanks for the note. Wow, that one really goes back into the archives! Yes, I can reduce it to ECP. Were you planning to expand this redirect into an article or something? I'm sure you're aware that this subject failed AfD three times, but the last was five years ago and you might have new information. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:40, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done -- MelanieN (talk) 17:42, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

I am aware of the AfDs, and I have no new information. I just thought that the protection was, in light of later technological developments, a bit overboard. (I just was browsing Garfield stuff.) I was more interested in general gnomery with adding categories and tags to redirects. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 18:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Good for you. Wikipedia would be in serious trouble without its gnomes. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:17, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

kokborok alphabet

kokborok alphabet is a tripuri peoples language script. tripuri people a new invent script by MR.Dhirendra Debbarma, 2018 but this script wrote by new testament bible kokborok languag. Past tripura history background check out manikya king of tripura at 14 centuary reply me. Donald128 (talk) 10:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Donald128. I deleted your article on this subject, because there is no evidence that this alphabet is actually in use. You previously added something about this script to the article Kokborok. But it was removed, because you could not supply any references. This alphabet was invented two years ago, in 2018. Clearly it has not become an accepted script at this time. You can make a suggestion at Talk:Kokborok, saying you think this script should be mentioned in the article. But do not add it to the article again yourself, and do not create the separate article again. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:18, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Ewart Potgieter

Hi. Would you please unsalt Ewart Potgieter (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and move Ewart Potgieter (rugby union) to its place? I've closed the RM at Talk:Ewart Potgieter (rugby union), it's about an entirely different person than the original 2015 article. No such user (talk) 11:39, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done -- MelanieN (talk) 17:51, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas MelanieN
	Hi MelanieN, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and healthy New Year, Thank you for all your contributions to Wikipedia,    –Davey2010Talk 19:58, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Holiday greetings

Hello MelanieN,

We know that we have a "you've got mail" template for an email. Maybe we should have templates for faxes, teletype messages and Western Union telegrams. Carrier pigeon messages? Anyway, I got a piece of snail mail from you the other day, and just wanted to send my greetings as well

Thank you very much, and greetings to your whole family. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:38, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

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Merry Christmas

File:Christmas tree in field.jpg	Merry Christmas MelanieN
	Hi MelanieN, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia this past year, like this tree, you are a light shining in the darkness. Onel5969 TT me 12:07, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for The Littlest Angel

On 25 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Littlest Angel, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the classic children's Christmas story The Littlest Angel was written in just three days? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Littlest Angel. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Littlest Angel), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Regarding the protection on Destiny Etiko

Hello MelanieN. In regard to the protection for Destiny Etiko I think you may have been misled. Only one IP once attempted to make a change to DOB w/o explanation. I reverted that edit and then examined the sources to try to resolve the correct DOB. The article cited multiple conflicting sources for DOB, some of which are not reliable (one is a wiki mirror site and thus WP:CIRCULAR). I changed the DOB based on the other available sources. The change made was in good faith and with an explanation. The editor requesting the protection disputed those edits, which is fine. I immediately started a discussion on the talk page which has now resolved the competing views and decided on the most reliable source, the matter is settled, and the consensus is now reflected in the article. No one has attempted to change DOB since consensus was reached and the talk page discussion provides a good history of the debate, which, hopefully, will head off any future attempts to change DOB. In my opinion, there was and is no need for protection on this article (this might be a case of WP:OWNBEHAVIOR). This was a good faith content dispute that has been resolved. – 108.56.139.120 (talk) 06:17, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I see that agreement has been reached and the article has been edited to reflect that agreement. I don't see any other recent issues with the article so I have removed the protection. Thanks for calling this to my attention. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:34, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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