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1st, other Wikipedia articles are prohibited per Wikipedia policy to be used as sources. 2nd, insinuating that I am biased (pro-Russian) is a violation of Wikipedia policy on assuming good faith from other editors. 3rd, you did not just revert my edit in the results section but also all my other edits in the rest of the article. 4th, you are constantly removing sourced information (along with its sources) that the separatists recaptured those three nearby villages. This is also a violation of Wikipedia policy. 5th, you also removed the sourced information (along with its source) that Shyrokyne became demilitarized per Ukraine Today (I don't think that's a Russian media outlet). 6th, you have not provided any sources that the offensive ended in a Ukrainian victory (not in line with OR policy) and have just now removed the sourced information (along with its source) that a ceasefire is in effect as a result of the offensive. 7th, [1] has not been discussed to fall into the category of RS (reliable sources) per Wikipedia standards. For this you need to take it up at a discussion on whether it falls into RS category. EkoGraf (talk) 19:42, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

I just researched the background of your map and found that it originates from Kyiv, Ukraine. Taking this into account I'm not seeing it falls into the category of neutral/independent, much less reliable. EkoGraf (talk) 19:48, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

For some reason you pick and choose your sources as they suit you, you have no problem with UA Today when it fits your narrative, but when the source does not fit your narrative you complain of neutrality. Speaking of sources, you have provided exactly 0 sources yourself, using only the ones left by me or other editors, often relying on information from February when the conflict began, and have proven yourself bias on the issue by engaging in a vicious edit war. The proper conduct would be to recuse yourself from the content if you incapable of being objective.

Your last statement in the edit summary was totally incorrect.

1. Removing my sources without proper explanation is against Wikipedia policy I did not remove any of your sources. They have all been used on the text in the main body of the article that I edited in, which you again reverted without proper explanation (per your reasoning this is against Wikipedia policy).
2. I have provided more than enough sources for you Nether of the three sources you provided for a Ukrainian victory state it was a Ukrainian victory. Furthermore, 2 of the 3 sources are copies of the same story.
3. all of which are more up to date then yours The last source I added for a ceasefire (result) was from September 19, your sources are from up to a month earlier. So my source is the most up-to-date.
4. You are again ignoring the fact that Ukraine Today (source you yourself added) said Shyrokyne had recently become demilitarized.
In regards to your last reply here at your talk page. I do not pick and choose anything, I write per the sources, while you are writing something that's not in the sources:
1. you have no problem with UA Today when it fits your narrative So you continue to ignore the fact that UA Today (most up-to-date source) says the village is demilitarized and that it ended in a cease-fire, not a Ukrainian victory.
2. you have provided exactly 0 sources yourself I have provided a source for demilitarization and a source for a cease-fire.
3. often relying on information from February when the conflict began Both Ukraine Toady sources I cited for demilitarization and cease-fire are from September, the recapture of Vodyane is per a source from April, and the source for the Ukrainians being in the hills outside the village is from July.
4. Reminding again none of your sources are citing a Ukrainian victory.
I am now awaiting your reply/reasoning for the revert of all of my sourced text in the main body of the article, the removal of the sourced info on the villages captured by separatists, removal of sourced info on demilitarization and removal of the latest up-to-date info on a ceasefire (along with its source). EkoGraf (talk) 20:05, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately one side cant retreat and claim victory at the same time. Facts are that Ukraine marines are in Shyrokyne, and fact is Ukraine is only talking of demilitarizing it, but never has. Even the UA source that said "demilitarization" also stated Ukrainian soldiers were currently busy de-mining the village, now how can it be de-militarized (meaning no military there) if its full of soldiers performing engineering tasks? I have put in for the article to be fully protected by Wiki so it does not come under vandalism by other bias users such as yourself.

What you are talking about is unsourced Original Research on your part which is not allowed per Wikipedia policy. None of your sources cite it as a Ukrainian victory. To write something it needs to be properly sourced. And you still haven't explained your removal of the sourced info on the recapture of the 3 villages by the separatists. (How is it a Ukrainian victory if the rebels recaptured 3 of the villages?) Not to mention your revert of virtually everything else I wrote in the article. Also [2] clearly says and I quote until recently when it was demilitarized. So its demilitarized. And the sources makes no mention of engineering teams de-mining the village. It only says many of the explosive devices in the area have not been dismantled, not that there's an ongoing effort to do it. So in fact, the source does not say there are soldiers/engineering teams in the village. And the other Ukraine Today source [3] clearly says there's a cease-fire in effect, which is the proper result for the offensive. EkoGraf (talk) 20:28, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Moreover, the strategic goal of the offensive was to prevent Mariupol from coming under more artillery attacks, even if Ukraine agrees to implement a DMZ (which it hasn't as you claim) it would still be a strategic victory for Ukraine, as their objective of securing Mariupol was accomplished, while it would still be a defeat for the separatists, as their obejective, being able to launch artillery attacks against Mariupol, is gone.

Again, something for which you need a source, until than it is unsourced speculation on your part (OR). EkoGraf (talk) 20:28, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

You're cherry picking the sources that best fit your narrative. Why did you delete both, the Jamestown and the Euromaidan Press articles that were contrary to your opinion and clearly state no demilitarization has occurred as of yet and that Marines have replaced local volunteer unit within the village? It is a blatant violation to delete sources without stating a reason for the deletion. Here's another source, Censor: <<http://en.censor.net.ua/news/344795/no_demilitarization_for_shyrokyne_as_progress_looms_ahead_exdefense_minister_marchuk_says>> No demilitarization agreed to is literally in the title. Moreover, the Russian separatists did not recapture the 3 villages you mentioned, so you are at best ignorant, at worst willfully lying. OSCE, which maintains that Pavlopil is government controlled, Pyshchevyk as government controlled, and Vodyanoi as government controlled. So now you are stating that the OSCE either 1) ignorant or 2) lying. Moreover the OSCE itself maintain there is no demilitarized zone, stating there are talks of crating one, again, either the OSCE 1) ignorant or 2) lying, but frankly I, and the world community, consider the OSCE as the most reliable source on the matter. Recuse yourself from the article.

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Euromaidan, as it name literally says, is a heavily pro-Ukrainian source (non-neutral). As for the link provided for no demilitarization, its from two months ago, while the source I provided confirming recent demilitarization (or rather you provided and than removed) is from less than a week ago. Newer source trumps older sources. Calling a fellow editor ignorant is a violation of WP: Civil. I thank you for the sources [4][5][6] you finally provided, after multiple requests, that those three villages were once again taken by government forces. Was that so hard? EkoGraf (talk) 18:20, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to emphasise, again, that content disputes over an article should be discussed civilly on that article's talk page. Koonter, if I see this kind of bigotry again, I'll be taking it to the ANI. Personal attacks of this calibre are not only unacceptable, but have been targeted against a neutral editor is not deserving of such WP:ASPERSIONS. Wikipedia has enough POV trolls gnawing away at articles without regulars being intentionally provocative. Save it for the genuinely bad faith editors.

As for syncing up articles with other language Wikipedias, the first rule of thumb is WP:WINARS. If other Wikipedias have articles that are pure WP:BOLLOCKS, we're not obliged to be lemmings. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:27, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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