User talk:K.e.coffman/Archive/2023/March

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Elinruby in topic Psst

Responsibility for the Holocaust

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Hi old comrade -- hope you are well. Tell me what you make of the substantive edits made on 8 March to the Responsibility for the Holocaust page. My problem with the edits (which I removed and the editor added back) was that it provides something that feels visually misleading and seems to obfuscate the responsibility of other nation states, like France, Ukraine, Poland etc. Am I being too critical? Nonetheless, I changed the formatting of the sources the editor added to match the page, but still feel like the edit should be undone entirely. Respecting your knowledge and opinion accordingly --- thoughts?--Obenritter (talk) 00:49, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the note; I commented on the article's Talk page: Talk:Responsibility_for_the_Holocaust#Recent_edits_re:_state_actors. --K.e.coffman (talk) 02:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Could you clarify please?

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I saw your new evidence section. Speaking on the 1st paragraph there, can you clarify two questions? First, you cited Mark Paul. Is he talking about the collaboration between Nazi Germany and USSR in this phrase? I think so, but this is not clear. Secondly, you are saying that GCB did something wrong on page Rescue of Jews by Poles during the Holocaust. What exactly her edits (diffs) on this page are you referring to? My very best wishes (talk) 18:24, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks -- I expanded on this: I then laid out Paul's antisemitic thesis to GCB on their Talk page: Paul's thesis, to which GCB did not respond. The diffs/links are from the Talk page discussion about Paul, as well as from GCB's talk page --K.e.coffman (talk) 19:22, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, that your linked comment explains it: it were Jews who "played an important, at times pivotal role, in arresting ...", according to this author. I never heard about him until very recently. My very best wishes (talk) 19:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

My AE in your statement

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I didn't get a chance to respond to you in that AI, but reducing my accusations against TB and the course of the whole affair around the Naliboki massacre article to an out of context statement my voice was ignored, and all of my edits were removed is a big oversimplification and a bit unfair. All of this was brought up during the AE and I won't repeat myself, but the problem with how @TrangaBellam pushes own changes and how conducts the discussion was/is much bigger, and is not limited to this article or myself; my offended feelings aren't relevant.

I trust @GizzyCatBella, primarily for positive moderation in resolving many editing conflicts I had. I also don't feel somehow "taken advantage of", and I think AE was productive. It allowed many of us to get a different perspective on our own actions.

I ping the people I mention out of courtesy, I don't want to start a discussion here, I just wanted to clarify some things. Marcelus (talk) 19:58, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the message. This was my view of what occurred; note that I said "appeared to be..." & "I interpreted this...". I did not find the intervention helpful, but people's opinions can vary. --K.e.coffman (talk) 20:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

March flowers

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March songs
 
my story today

Thank you for improving articles in March! - Today we remember the 150th birthday of Max Reger, who saw the horrors of a world war right when it began in 1914, while others were still in high patriotic moods -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Psst

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At the end of your evidence, which is already summarized, I noted at typo: "February 20233". I don't think this is a big deal, or that it causes any confusion, but I am just pointing it out to you in case you want to do something about it. And thank you for expanding a little on that incident, btw. As is probably painfully clear, I haven't been in one of these cases before and my evidence on the RSN thread was possibly a little *too* minimalist Elinruby (talk) 10:18, 20 March 2023 (UTC)Reply