John Hampdens Regiment
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 02:14, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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- I have moved the conversation to Talk:Battle of Chalgrove Field please see there. -- PBS (talk) 07:49, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
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editHi John Hampdens Regiment! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse,
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Chalgrove Battle map
edit<Ian, you are a software engineer and my role is being historian, and particularly with reference to Battle of Chalgrove. Future ‘Talk’ will be on John Hampdens Regiment (section) and please accept my apologies for ‘bombing’ yours and others ‘User Page’.
How would you feel if a computer game that you had developed was copied and then changed without your consent, would you get angry? Do you understand my anger and frustration towards Wikipedia? The webpage Battle of Chalgrove contains 35 years of my research. Victoria County History, the UK’s leading historians, have cited my Oxoniensia article as has Prof Ian Beckett in Wanton Trooper. Historic England has accepted my amendment to extend Chalgrove’s listed area to include Warpsgrove House; a feature that locates the Battlefield and closes the argument put forward in the Wiki-page Battle of Chalgrove Field.
In accepting the Warpsgrove House amendment Historic England has recently accepted a number of amendments to the narrative based on my Oxoniensia article. The question is will Wikipedia restore the wiki page Battle of Chalgrove? My bona fides follow in ‘Wiki’s Excellence’./>
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The Battle of Chalgrove was added to English Heritage Battlefield Register because the Chalgrove Battle Group’s interpretation undermined English Heritage’s main source of information. English Heritage had relied heavily on Oxoniensia Vol 38 pub 1973 ‘The Raid on Chinnor and the Fight at Chalgrove Field’ J. Stevenson & A. Carter which the Independent Review Panel who were convinced by the Group’s argument was utterly flawed. Robinvp11 interpretation mirrors that found in English Heritage’s Provisional Register which was dismissed by the Independent Review Panel.
Oxoniensia Vol 80 pub 2015 ‘The Military and Political Importance of the Battle of Chalgrove 1643’ Lester and Lester which academically and to the satisfaction of the peer reviewers totally refuted Stevenson and Carter’s interpretation of Chalgrove.
Robinvp11 relies heavily on Oxoniensia Vol 38 pub 1973 ‘The Raid on Chinnor and the Fight at Chalgrove Field’ J. Stevenson & A. Carter for his interpretation. Robinvp11 confuses, misquotes and is dismissive of statements made by Lester and Lester see his Ref (9) and page 34. The Chalgrove Battle Map is not referenced and is unattributed, it is the writer’s copyright and is found on page 36 of Oxoniensia Vol 80. Robinvp11 should read page 28 to get an understanding that George Nugent-Grenville’s (Lord Nugent) interpretation found in his book pub 1832 ‘Some Memorial’ is pathetically inane. Quote from vol II p431 has ‘He (Hampden) instantly mounted’ his horse to go and fight 2,000 Royalists leaving his regiment safely tucked up in their beds in Watlington. How else can it be explained that Hampden was at Chalgrove without his officers and regiment!? The Independent Review Panel thought this statement was hilarious and threw out English Heritage’s claims. Are Wikipedia’s founders horrified by the absurdity that is damaging its name for academic excellence being published on its website?
Sir Edward Hyde (Clarendon from 1661) was in Oxford with King Charles I on the day of Battle of Chalgrove. The senior parliamentarian officers captured from Chalgrove hours earlier were asked why they were fighting as troopers. Would Robinvp11 care to read what was recorded by Hyde and the King on the day!? A transcription of the original document is found on Battle of Chalgrove Wiki webpage.
Oxoniensia Vol 80 pub 2015 ‘The Military and Political Importance of the Battle of Chalgrove 1643’ Lester and Lester can be viewed in Flipbooks formation on the Battle of Chalgrove Wiki webpage or at www.johnhampdensregiment.org.uk. This website is linked to webpage Battle of Chalgrove and has copies of the contemporary documents written out in full so as to assist the reader. It is the administrators’ duty to restore the Wiki webpage ‘Battle of Chalgrove’ as the definitive interpretation. Regards, Lester & Lester, a leading authority on the Battle of Chalgrove.— Preceding unsigned comment added by John Hampdens Regiment (talk • contribs)
- John Hampdens Regiment Have you readWP:OWN yet? It is NOT the administrators’ duty to restore the "Wiki webpage" to your preferred version, if you have any dispute with content please discus it on the article's talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 12:52, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
You say in your misplaced rant on User:Ian.thomson's page that "The Chalgrove Battle Map has never been posted to Wikipedia by the copyright holder. Whoever posted it to Wikipedia is in breach of copyright."
The Chalgrove Battle map was uploaded by you [1]. Theroadislong (talk) 19:52, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- You responded to this by posting to Theroadislong's user page; user pages are not for communication with the account's user, user talk pages are. As Theroadislong has posted here, you should reply here instead of on their own user talk page, to keep the discussion in one location. 331dot (talk) 11:12, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- John Hampdens Regiment You said on my user page "it is accepted that you are correct and the map was uploaded to Wiki by me. You state that the ‘image to be used by anybody and for any purpose as long as they properly attribute it to you’. Where is that accreditation on the Battle of Chalgrove Field webpage?" The credit is here [2]. Theroadislong (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Your Teahouse comments
editYou say at the Teahouse "It is the administrators’ duty to restore the Wiki webpage ‘Battle of Chalgrove’ as the definitive interpretation. Regards, Lester & Lester, a leading authority on the Battle of Chalgrove" It is not remotely clear what you mean by this. The article does not belong to you and administrators have absolutely no duty to restore the article to your preferred version as per WP:OWN. Wikipedia is a joint enterprise, we collaborate. Theroadislong (talk) 11:30, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ian, My knowledge of how Wikipedia operates is extremely limited and ask whether it possible for me to retrieve the webpage Battle of Chalgrove?
Do you have the expertise to tell me the procedure? John Hampdens Regiment (talk) 16:30, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- There is no procedure as you have been told multiple times before see above. "The article does not belong to you and administrators have absolutely no duty to restore the article to your preferred version as per WP:OWN. Theroadislong (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk pages
edit<David, Thank for the guide to the 'Article Talk Page'. My knowledge of how Wikipedia operates is extremely limited and apologise to all for my transgressions. John Hampdens Regiment (talk) 16:40, 28 April 2020 (UTC) />
When you add new comments to a discussion on Wikipedia talk pages, including (for instance) the Teahouse, article talk pages, and user talk pages, please add your replies below the post you are responding to, and not at the top of the section. I have moved your recent comment to this Teahouse discussion so it appears below the earlier comments. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 11:35, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Bondea it is a steep learning curve getting to grips on how to reply to Teahouse but it is being learnt. The real problem is finding the correct terminology to find the person/link to get the webpage Battle of Chalgrove restored. Can you assist and tell me how this achieved./> [[[User:John Hampdens Regiment|John Hampdens Regiment]] (talk) 13:30, 28 April 2020 (UTC) John Hampdens Regiment]
- John Hampdens Regiment You keep asking the same question in multiple places but appear not to read the responses? Again... "The article does not belong to you and administrators have absolutely no duty to restore the article to your preferred version as per WP:OWN. Wikipedia is a joint enterprise, we collaborate." Theroadislong (talk) 13:56, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- To repeat two more things that you have been told but apparently not read. Firstly the article Battle of Chalgrove has not been changed since it was first generated nearly 14 years ago, as you can see in the article history. Secondly, if you have concerns regarding the content of a different Wikipedia article (such as Battle of Chalgrove Field?), the place to discuss those concerns is on the article's talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:16, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you. David Biddulph (talk) 13:00, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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. Cabayi (talk) 08:46, 29 April 2020 (UTC)- Also, the first post on this page pointed you to the five pillars on which Wikipedia is built. The second pillar is about maintaining a neutral point of view and verifiability of articles. A key aspect of that is the prohibition on original research, even if you have self-published it elsewhere before promoting it on the wiki. Wikipedia does not claim to be, or want to be, at the leading edge of the latest research. It aims to cover material which has been covered elsewhere, a comfortable and reliable way behind the leading edge. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 09:18, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
UTRS 30391
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UTRS appeal #30391 was submitted on 2020-04-30 22:52:16. This review is now closed.
--Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 22:55, 30 April 2020 (UTC)