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New editors are welcome at Wikipedia, but it can take a little while to figure this place out. I've been here about a year, and I'm still finding my legs. As someone who often starts articles on academics, I sympathize with your impulse. However, only some academics qualify see: WP:PROFESSOR. The series of articles you stated may all come down in one fell swoop. Reason is, in order to stay up a Professor has to pass the notability bars enumerated at WP:PROFESSOR. And to do that you need to find reliable secondary sources. These range from reviews of books they have written in respected academic journals to profiles of a man's life and career in a daily newspaper. You have links in the welcome to Wikipedia greeting above. Or, you can look atthe Wikipedia articles of a few notable professors to get an idea of how things work. It is hard work to write a proper, encyclopedic article, but, failing that, the articles will be deleted.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:52, 11 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Maybe you overlooked the link, you are welcome to comment in the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/John_William_Harkins. The discussion will probably be closed on the 25th. To keep the Harkins article we need to show he meets one of the criteria at WP:PROFESSOR, or meets our General Notability Guideline (received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject). You should probably review your other articles too. Alsee (talk) 11:53, 22 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

I note that you continue to create these articles (most recently, Jeffery Tribble), without responding to the concerns that have been expressed about notability. You would be well advised to engage with editors such as E.M.Gregory, Alsee and myself, because otherwise it is likely that processes that might result in the articles' deletion them will be started. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:10, 1 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
Cordless Larry, thanks for alerting me to the new article at Jeffery Tribble. At the bottom of the page I opened Conflict of interest proceedings and custom-templated a warning for failure to talk. Jcstanley, if you're reading this, you really do need to start talking with us. Alsee (talk) 22:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
Jcstanley, as an uninvolved editor who saw this issue come up at WP:COIN, I urge you to begin communicating on your talkpage. Non-communicative editors don't usually have good outcomes once a case starts at COIN. However when communication begins, we can sort out issues and help each other to improve Wikipedia. - Brianhe (talk) 22:30, 1 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Alsee I am more than willing to assist and communicate in regards to ideas you may have to prevent the deletion of the articles on which I have worked hard. I apologize for the delayed response. Jcstanley (talk) 18:51, 7 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Greetings Jcstanley. If you have no objection, we can create a work page in your userspace? (Userspace means a new page with a name like User:Jcstanley/PageName.) Perhaps User:Jcstanley/my articles? Then there can be a section for each bio, and you can identify which bios meet specific criteria at wp:Notability_(academics)? Start with simple clear cases like #6 current and former presidents of the school. Don't try to address things like "significant impact in their scholarly discipline" yet, unless it's a single sentence with maybe a single link that makes it very obvious. Most can be left blank on the first pass. Let us  Y the easiest most obvious cases first, just to narrow down the list.
Pinging Cordless Larry. Alsee (talk) 23:22, 7 December 2015 (UTC) Pinging DGG too. Alsee (talk) 23:31, 7 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
P.S. You should consider Paul_J._Johnson and Jasper_Keith immediately. They are slated for deletion on the 9th and 13th if not contested. You can freely take down the proposed deletion notice to stop that process, if you think they might satisfy Notability, or there is information that could be added to establish Notability. Alsee (talk) 00:42, 8 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Alsee I have created a work page User:Jcstanley/my articles with the articles that have been written and information that will hopefully be useful in understanding and justifying their creation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcstanley (talkcontribs) 21:07, 8 December 2015‎ (UTC)Reply

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As a guide to notability for notability under WP:PROF, presidents of the school , or holders of endowed professorships probably meet the requirements--tho this is an independent college and not a major university, and if you had confined himself to them, there would be much less of a problem. (endowed Associate professorships, btw, have generally not been considered to intrinsically meet WP:PROF.) For the others, WP:PROF depends upon publications, and probably a good many of them will meet the requirement. (As a complicating factor, we have in the past differed about considering non-scholarly works for this purpose, and often not considered it met by people writing entirely minor pastoral books and the like). DGG ( talk ) 06:21, 6 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

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