User talk:Jbhunley/Archives/2018/July

About becoming an administrator

Wikipedia needs you! Take the poll. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia so far; they are very much appreciated. Your experience and tenure have been an asset to the project. Have you ever thought of becoming an administrator? It can be enjoyable, challenging, and a great way to help Wikipedia. To receive feedback on your chances of successfully requesting administrative privileges, consider starting a poll: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll Thank you! Are you reading this on another user's talk page? If you are experienced and trusted, and would consider becoming an admin, you are very much encouraged to take the take the poll. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:23, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: My apologies for taking so long to reply, I have been recovering from a sports injury and PT has been taking up my time. Thank you very much for the encouragement and confidence - it means quite a bit to me. I do think I would enjoy contributing as an administrator and once I have been able to get back to regular contributions I will give some serious thought to an RfA. If you have any suggestions or advice please let me know. Again - thank you! Jbh ^Talk 13:50, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello my friend. No apologies necessary. I hope you are recovering well from your sports injury.

About suggestions and advice, well that is exactly what the poll is for. They will say something like "run now and you're a shoo-in" or "work these areas for a little while, and then you will do fine at RfA". All the best! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:22, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Came by to inquire about same. I just think you'd be very good at it, if you're at all interested. Let me know if I can help in any way (e.g. if ORCP recommends making some new entries and you need ideas, etc.) Innisfree987 (talk) 20:15, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Innisfree987: Thank you. I appreciate the kind words, I only hope you feel the same way after my… errmm… outspokenness at ArbCom . The outcome of the case has led me to decide I would like to give it a shot. (See my comment on the ArbCom talk page) Although it would not be for a few months since I took most of 2017 off. I may, indeed, call upon you for some suggestions for articles to write. Most of my "Ah! That would be fun to write about" moments come from stubs I see at NPR which has the obvious problem of already being written. As far as wiki-writing goes, short biographies of dead people is probably my comfort zone to start. My background is in International Relations so I'm mostly a 'soft-sciences' and Liberal Arts person. Again, thank you. Jbh ^Talk 02:20, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi sorry for the delayed reply! Having a hard time collecting any succinct thoughts on the trials and tribulations of the mop, so let me put a pin in that and for now just make some suggestions about options for content contributions, which I always find a very nice way to clear the cobwebs, in any event!

• So I don't know how much academia itself interests you, but based on my experience writing academic bios, the first thing that comes to mind when you say IR + short bios of dead people is that I'd bet the farm there are quite a lot of notable deceased scholars (here's WP:NACADEMIC for convenience) who are important to the history of IR, but not yet described in the encyclopedia. It'd probably be comfortably straightforward writing, too, in terms of available sources likely being more focused on their work (i.e. book reviews, subsequent works that draw on their ideas, &c.) than their personal lives. You probably know best what favorite books, thinkers, intellectual lineages might yield the options most interesting to you, but let me know if you hit a wall and I'll find some specifics to suggest. (Entries on the field's "big books" would be another good option here, if a scholar of interest has a good entry but one of their major contributions could use more coverage.)

• Another nice option for planting your content creation flag, if you're noticing interesting stubs at NPR, would to pick some to expand 5x and submit to DYK. Especially with your subscriptions access, it won't be too hard to take something from 100 to 500 words, and then I can easily lend a hand with the (weird but ultimately quite manageable; these are good instructions) nomination process, if you aren't already acquainted. Some may even feel 5x DYKs are better than new article creations, namely the crowd that believes all the important topics already have entries and they just need improving; plus you get a bit more of the experience content creators like to see in terms of understanding what it's like to have others come along and sometimes run a bit roughshod over something you've worked hard on, via the reviews (which at DYK are mostly mild but have their occasional frustrations). Taking something to GA obviously gets even more experience in this regard, but you could start with simple 5x expansions and see if anything catches your interest enough to want to take it further.

• Something of a combo of items 1 and 2: if IR might mean you're comfortable in another language, you could poke around for entries needing translating from other projects. That does give you an "article created" on your en-wiki log, and the fact is, working it up properly will usually require a good amount of additional content work--with a few exceptions, lots of other projects have lower sourcing standards than en-wiki, so even if an entry in another language gives you a jumping-off point, you'll typically need to do a good amount of sourcing and other development yourself. Happy to help also with the technical details of this if you need (pluses and minuses of the translation tool; edit history attribution; etc.); on content my usefulness will depend on the language.

...well, that's not succinct but hopefully of some help! Let me know if there are any more specifics I can help with, whether now or further down the road! Innisfree987 (talk) 19:25, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

@Innisfree987: Thank you for the encouragement. I finally got off my butt and started writing - Innocenzo Leonelli, Mutatesia Leonelli, and Sorbolongo. They are spin-offs from an article I am doing on a 17th century missionary, Jbhunley/sandbox/Ignatius of Jesus, who turned out to be much more interesting than I thought he would be. Jbh ^Talk 14:50, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Not that you asked! But if you don't mind my interjecting, I think there's a lot of good stuff in your Ignatius of Jesus draft and you should go ahead and put it out in mainspace to work on more there. It doesn't have to be complete or picture-perfect from Day 1! You've already done a lot of work and I think it'd be great for folks to see that to get a fuller picture of your work, if an RfA might be imminent! (I know it'd be a bit of a drag since you have your notes for expansion so nicely formatted, but you could keep that in your sandbox and post the completed bits to a new entry? Since you wrote the entirety, I believe that's ok for attribution rules.) Innisfree987 (talk) 20:51, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

@Innisfree987: That is not a bad idea although it may take almost as much work to make what is there ready for Article space as it would to just finish it. I will give it a once over and see what can be done before I submit my RfA. There is really only 6-8 hrs of work to finish what is outlined there. Cheers! Jbh ^Talk 02:45, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Oh, even better--most of all for your reading audience! Looking forward to it. Innisfree987 (talk) 03:05, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

• Also, as I'm sure you are aware, I still think this is an excellent idea. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:15, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: Thank you. That means a lot. Jbh ^Talk 14:50, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Query

You have been making too much sense lately. I see Ritchie333 has already approached you before ([1]); of course he has. May I ask if there have any updates in your thoughts? Cheers, Alex Shih (talk) 16:05, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

JBH is on my "persons of interest" list, certainly. (TheSandDoctor shot me an email about RfA while I was on break, wonder what's happened with that? ;-D) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:19, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

@Alex Shih: Thanks. I think I will give RfA a shot sometime this Summer. I want to finish the article I am working on first. Content work is not my strong suit but I think it is important to have some experience putting together more than stubs. After I finish I will go through WP:ORCP to see if others see any red flags and then ask for nomination. Jbh ^Talk 16:10, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

• Hi Jbh. Ritchie and I have written our statements. Once you have answered these questions, the page can then be moved to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Jbhunley and ready to roll. Alex Shih (talk) 18:39, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

  @Alex Shih and Ritchie333: Thank you both for those wonderful nominations! I will work on drafting my answers this week. Next week is pretty open for me so I think I will wait until then to open the RfA. Again, thank you. Jbh ^Talk 02:35, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

  @Alex Shih and Ritchie333: I have answered the questions. If either of you have any feedback on content or, especially, tone I would be grateful for any guidance you may have.Jbh ^Talk 21:25, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

  Personally I think these are fantastic answers. Long but precise. Let's see what Ritchie thinks. Alex Shih (talk) 23:52, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Q2 is a bit longer than I would have liked, but it gets the point across. It's probably too late to change it now it's in the page history and everyone can see it! In the past, I've prepped some answers via email first (eg: Primefac, 331dot), others I trusted they'll be okay on their own (eg: GAB, Cordless Larry). The one thing that's missing from your acceptance statement is you have to state that you have no other accounts (or if you do, declare them to Arbcom, then say you have), and check you have read WP:RFAADVICE and all the linked essays. As it says there, you want to transclude at a time you are alert and ready to field questions, so give one of us the word to do it, and it shall be done. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 08:57, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I will see if I can tighten up the wording of #2 - I'm OK with people seeing it as is but I probably can get the same points across in fewer words. I edited the page to put in the account declaration, a 'not-a-paid-editor' statement and went over RFAADVICE again. I've also been through the 'new admin' pages and most of the other adminish and other policy/guideline/major essay pages.

I think Monday around 1500Z would be good to start it off. I can be available throughout most of that day for the first rush of questions and then keep a window up or check back several times per day for later questions/follow-ups. Jbh ^Talk 14:16, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Alright; I'll be on holiday at that point, and probably not online until hours later (if at all), so it might be better for Alex to do the deed if he's around. Transcluding's not difficult, but it's better to get a nominator to do it as they can't get silly oppose votes if they mess up. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:44, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Enjoy your holiday! @Alex Shih: would you please transclude my RfA whenever you are able after 1400Z on 30 July? Thank you. Jbh ^Talk 05:08, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Oh damn, I was assuming we were talking about UTC. Does Z means Zulu time? Alex Shih (talk) 05:13, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Sorry... habit... yes Z is Zulu which is UTC. Jbh ^Talk 06:03, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

• We haven't (to my knowledge) crossed paths too often, but I wish you the very best of luck, and my support, in your RFA. You would make a superb admin, and enhance administrative affairs to a great extent. Thanks for running, Stormy clouds (talk) 19:54, 30 July 2018 (UTC).

  @Stormy clouds: Thank you! Jbh ^Talk 20:01, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

• Sorry, I did not get home last night and could not transclude. I might not be able to do it for another five hours maybe. Alex Shih (talk) 22:40, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Nevermind, I see it's live now. Alex Shih (talk) 22:43, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Innocenzo Leonelli

On 10 July 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Innocenzo Leonelli, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Innocenzo Leonelli gave his wealth to the poor and renounced his name to become a hermit? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Innocenzo Leonelli. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Innocenzo Leonelli), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 02:37, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Deletion review for Ankit Love

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