Harlesdenbop

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Nomination of Knoel Scott for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Knoel Scott is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Knoel Scott until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Primefac (talk) 02:14, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

August 2017

Hello, I'm Theroadislong. I wanted to let you know that I removed one or more external links you added to the main body of Knoel Scott. Generally, any relevant external links should be listed in an "External links" section at the end of the article and meet the external links guidelines. Links within the body of an article should be internal Wikilinks. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 17:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest

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August 2017

There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing.

If you intend to make useful contributions about some topic other than your business or organisation, you may request an unblock. To do so, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:CentralAuth to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy. Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In that reason, you must:

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If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:28, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Harlesdenbop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Requested username:

harlesdenbop (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

The username I previously chose has been with me for years and eventually become the name I use for trading as a music producer and later on as a trading name for most of my activities. I use it for my social media accounts and I naturally used it here. But I understand the confusion generated by it and of course I can change it to something else. I can perhaps suggest "Harlesdenbop" since I live in Harlesden and I love jazz. For what concern my adding Knoel Scott to the Wikipedia database, I certainly have a direct interest in raising his profile since I represent him but I was never paid to add him to Wikipedia and I did it because I was surprised that his name was not on it. I don't perceive a salary from him, I am not linked to any contract and at present we only have a verbal agreement. Of course having a more visible presence on line will increase his reputation, raise his profile and ultimately make him more relevant on the Jazz scene, and I might eventually benefit from it. Said that he certainly deserves to be recognised for his relevant contribution to the afro American jazz culture, especially as a carrier of the bebop flag for the future generation and I added his profile in good faith, just as in good faith I explained several times my relationship with him and I asked other members for help in adding his name in a transparent and objective way. Being a new contributor I certainly made a lot of mistakes and I still struggle to fully understand the different protocols, the language and the criteria used to create an entry. I am still interested in adding my bit to Wikipedia, especially in light of the fact that jazz, blues and world music don't receive the coverage and attention they deserve and I'm willing to learn how to contribute accordingly if given the chance. For what concern Knoel Scott entry, I believe he should be recognised by wikipedia and I would like to keep looking for articles on papers prior to the internet age; but that of course if the judging panel is willing to believe that my contribution is driven not by monetary gain but primarily by a profound love of Jazz Tonetrade (talk) 16:51, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Accept reason:

Bu sure to follow WP:COI and not to edit directly articles you are connected to. Be sure to properly WP:DISCLOSE your conflict of interest. Vanjagenije (talk) 17:35, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

• I have globally renamed 'Tonetrade' to 'Harlesdenbop'. Another admin will review your unblock request. Just Chilling (talk) 21:29, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
• Many thanks Just Chilling Harlesdenbop (talk) 13:13, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

something like an amicus brief

I hope any admin reviewing the above unblock request will take the following into account. I believe the entirety of the AfD discussion here should be considered when deciding whether / when to unblock Harlesdenbop. I had never heard of Knoel Scott before this AfD, unlike Primefac, but I share John from Idegon's concern about WP giving undue weight to more recently-debuting musicians in other genres. I'm hoping that Harlesdenbop will be unblocked and allowed to share (on the article's talk page) information from magazines that he has access to which haven't been digitized; I agree that editing the article directly would be a problem, but this is one of the reason we have talk pages. I have worked with a number of COI editors so that Wikipedia could have new articles which began improperly remain on the site in conformance with our policies, and I would be more than happy to do so again in this instance.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 22:53, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Many Thanks for the support Harlesdenbop (talk) 23:59, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

I just noticed that my entry for Knoel Scott was accepted and it's now a keep. Now that the conflicting post has been approved, I would like to be given the chance to present those extra clippings from magazines and newspapers which are not available online. I wouldn't amend the article directly, as it has proven a bad choice before, but perhaps I would take the offer by GrammarFascist to help with the edit. I hope admin will unblock me so that I can keep contributing on Wikipedia Harlesdenbop (talk) 12:18, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Harlesdenbop. In order to be unblocked, you must place {{unblock|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page; further instructions for how to format your request can be found at the guide to appealing blocks. An administrator will not act on your unblock request if it does not use the unblock template. Good luck! —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 12:42, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

@GrammarFascist: This user already posted an unblock request above 15 days ago. Please, do not confuse him. @The Blade of the Northern Lights: Do you agree with unblocking? It seams that this user understands the issue now and is not willing to edit the article directly. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:29, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

My bad, Vanjagenije, I thought that the unblock request above had been declined (but the name change request approved) due to Harlesdenbop not clearly stating they would no longer edit the Knoel Scott article directly in their original request, and that a new request was thus needed. Thanks for the clarification. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 13:07, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm fine with unblocking. Seems like everything that needed to be cleared up is, I see no particular cause for concern at this time. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:17, 9 September 2017 (UTC)