The definition of abiogenesis in this article is completely wrong and gives false information since the very beginning. It starts with is the natural process of life arising from non-living matter. Just by reading this, people that want to check quickly what is abiogenesis about, can understand that abiogenesis is a demonstrated fact, a process as real as any other processes we know in our world. Actually the abiogenesis is just an hyphotesis about the origin of life, that actually was never observed, never proven and chances are, that it will never be proven due to the impossibility of the non-intelligence to create intelligence (aka a single living cell).

A careful look on the article's content reveals the real character of the abiogenesis (a hypothesis), since it is specified that some things on which the abiogenesis relies are speculations/hypotheses. But that is not consistent with the definition given to abiogenesis at the beginning of the article. In my opinion, that definition was written by someone that intentionally wanted to induce the false idea that abiogenesis is a demonstrated fact. I would re-formulate the definition, by specifying clearly, that abiogenesis is an hyphotesis and I would say "is supposed to be the natural process" instead of "is the natural process".

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April 2015 edit

  You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you use talk pages for inappropriate discussions, as you did at Talk:Abiogenesis. If you can not be bothered to actually discuss suggested improvements at Talk:Abiogenesisl, then there is absolutely no choice but to hat the thread, especially since you refuse to grasp or read the other editors' points, and that the thread blatantly runs afoul of WP:SOAPBOX and WP:NOTAFORUM--Mr Fink (talk) 20:54, 22 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

You are false. The text added to the Talk page shows that I actually provided suggestions for improvements, arguments and reliable sources supporting my objections. The Talk page shows very clearly, that nobody was bothered to analyze my input, the only argument, that the majority is fine with the current definition of abiogenesis is doesn't reveal a rational, fair approach.Epetre (talk) 04:50, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
 

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Do you know what is the edit war about? Yes, you know. My discussion was closed for false reasons, that I didn't provide suggestions for improvement, which can be checked very easilt that is not true. Another accuse that I didn't show willing for a discussion, also false. All my tries to discuss my objections with arguments were rejected, being provided with false, illogical arguments. The behavior of the editors is absolutely abusive, agressive and intimidating and something should be done here. Epetre (talk) 04:50, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
It doesn't matter. There is no provision in WP:3rr for being right. You simply cannot edit war, and breaking that rule will result in a block. And BTW, if another editor edit wars with you, that editor is wrong too. Him being wrong doesn't make you right; it makes you both wrong. Please don't do that in the future. If you have a disagreement, we have methods of resolution that don't involve repeated reverting.   — Jess· Δ 04:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
So far I was astonished to see what "methods", but in the end, it wouldn't be fair for me to generalize Epetre (talk) 05:22, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're interested in learning about how to engage in a dispute, check out WP:DR. Thanks.   — Jess· Δ 14:36, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

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@EdJohnston:Hello. Interesting your answer. Before adding my initail comment in the Talk page of Abiogenesis article, I have read carefully the FAQ section. I wouldn't have continued my inititative, if my concerns were really addressed there. In the FAQ section it is said that abiogenesis is considered in the article a fact because there are reliable sources describing it as such. What if there are also more reliable sources saying the contrary? Shouldn't the article present an objective, unbiased information?. It is also explained in the FAQ why the abiogenesis is not "just" a theory. Knowing that even a demonstrated theory like the theory of relativity is presented with the name "theory", why such a controversial hypothesis like "abiogenesis", that in Encyclopedia Britannica is called an "idea", should deserve even more than Einstein's theory? Epetre (talk) 19:39, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

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