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Just FYI

The idea that a navbox could be padded with a bunch of actor bio articles to make it seem less empty isn't a rationale to use at TfD, since such a navbox is pretty much "forbidden" (i.e. navboxes that do that get deleted all the time, by longstanding precedent; there are some up for TfD right now, I think from the 18th or 19th, maybe the 20th of this month.) Just so ya know. :-) The reason for this is that if this were permitted, then any very-notable actor, director, screenwriter, whatever, would easily end up with 50+ navboxes on their article, one for each notable production. D'oh. PS: This is in ref. to the TfD on the Avatar navbox, which I see was kept on other grounds, in case you're wondering which left field this popped out of. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 21:44, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I see. Duly noted. :) DrNegative (talk) 21:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

vandalizing

why is vandalizing bad? somone is bound to change it back. cant we have some fun?

YourBrain (talk) 21:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

You have just proven the fundamental flaw of Wikipedia in one sentence. DrNegative (talk) 01:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Reg Removal of my edit in Avatar

Hello there

I see that you have removed my edit stating that the reviews are just user opinions. I had just added links to the reviews of a movie discussion board (http://clapsandboos.com/movies/4b3e4c313185506d0b000001) which has professional reviewers as well and there is a separate score for them. This works more or less on the lines of "Rotten Tomatoes".

There are two scores to every movie - a "loudmouth score" and a "popular score" - you can see them to the left of every movie. The website has hired a set of professional critics and the "loudmouth score" is a weighted average for that. All reviews in the system have been published only after moderation after evaluating the content against a set of guidelines. Hence, no abusive, biased or nonsensical reviews would be let in and the ""popular score" is a weighted average of all common users. Furthermore, to write a review one has to login using the "Open Id" method and the website moderators team penalize the nonsense writers by banning them for good. Pls let me know if I can re-add them. Movie Buff (talk) 00:16, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I was simply concerned about WP:RS in this case. If what you say is true then we could probably evaluate this as a reliable source. Please post the request on the film's talk-page and we can get a consensus/opinions from everyone on it. DrNegative (talk) 00:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

On second thought after looking carefully at the source I have concluded that it is not a reliable source. I'm assuming good-faith here but it sounds as if you are trying to use the article's hitcount to promote the website. If you wish to object to this please post on the film's talk-page. DrNegative (talk) 02:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying. The website was launched only recently and the idea behind was to build something on the lines of "Rotten Tomatoes", but at a more World Cinema level and it will definitely take time to get there. As of now there are a bunch of Professional writers who write for print media and there is the option for users to write their own reviews upon registration and like I said before, every review goes through moderation for content. If you want you can write a test review and check it for yourself. I am fairly new to Wikipedia and hence I am not entirely sure if this fits in to the rules here. And, when I posted that in the article, my intention was to only underline the "universal" reach the movie has. I don't have more to say and will leave it to you to make the call since you had removed my edit. Thanks! Movie Buff (talk) 15:29, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the award, DrNegative. But, frankly, as I said a few times earlier, I am just learning many things, including civility and amity, from you and other guys on that discussion - and still have a long way to go. So I take the star to mean that you are good teachers. :) Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 05:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Avatar (2009 film)

The article Avatar (2009 film) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Article for eventual comments about the article. Well done! Ktlynch (talk) 14:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your review and comments. DrNegative (talk) 00:29, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

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For saving my day

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		For your hat-note that happened to save my day and my article from theft, I present you with this barnstar, for lack of a more specific one. Many thanks! Cinosaur (talk) 04:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Another image for Themes in Avatar?

DrNegative, thank you again for the war image. Have you got by chance a screenshot with a bulldozer destroying the Tree of Voices for "Technology vs. culture and environment"? Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 14:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure I'll find you one. DrNegative (talk) 17:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

THanks. Do you think we could somehow use thi image under fair use for Parallels with Hinduism? It is exactly what we need to illustrate the point. I am not completely happy with the cartoon-like image of Krishna we currently have. Cinosaur (talk) 13:24, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

We could but we need written consent from the artist who drew it for this one. Even though it is more than likely copyrighted like the others, we are not sure if he released the image to the public for non-commercial use to qualify as fair-use. If the artist could consent to copyleft or release it to the public domain, you could use it. DrNegative (talk) 16:53, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Does it mean that the same image is published here under some sort of copyright agreement? Actually, I am pretty sure that the image is in public domain in India. Still, I wrote to the original site but never got a word in reply. Cinosaur (talk) 14:47, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

That is the thing, I could be that the artist released it to the public domain, or he/she specifically gave that news website permission to publish it for their article. If you are sure that it is in the public domain, then I wouldn't see any problem in uploading and using it. DrNegative (talk) 18:39, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Avatar plagiarism para.

Thanks for the link. This is just the right article, and I added the ref to the paragraph, although others may wish to move it around. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Extracting themes from Cameron's interview

DrNegative, going through the list of proposed sources for Themes in Avatar I came upon the one you had suggested. Unfortunately, for the next month I will be traveling in a country where my internet access will be limited by a low-speed GPRS mobile connection that would not allow me to successfully watch video contents. May I ask you if you want to include excerpts from the interview into the article yourself as you see fit? Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 01:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I will take a look at it and extract some soon. DrNegative (talk) 01:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Cinosaur (talk) 02:45, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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Peer review for Themes in Avatar

Hi DrNegative. I thought you might want to have a look at this peer review. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 05:42, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

DrNegative, thank you for your peer review. I will be grateful if you give me hints at how you see the proposed expansion of the lead section and the Pantheism section. As for the love theme, all I have is this:

• http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/11/PK4B1B0EHD.DTL&type=movies
• http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/2009/12/21/2009-12-21_avatar_is_james_camerons_latest_chick_flick_director_has_long_history_of_tough_h.html
• http://www.thewrap.com/blog-entry/why-would-james-cameron-call-avatar-chick-flick-15065
• http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1629226/story.jhtml
• http://www.swans.com/library/art16/cmarow160.html
• http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-04/the-tantric-sex-in-avatar/full/

Do you think it's enough for a fair treatment of the theme? Do you have any other sources? And (pardon me for asking) would you consider coming up with a writeup? Besides, we will have to figure out how to plug that would-be theme into the article. Ssilvers and I decided to walk away as much as possible from tiny subsections of one-two paragraphs. One approach could be to revive the Human dreams and guilt subsection of Social and cultural themes under a new heading, such as Human nature, and combine themes on human aspirations, dreams, collective guilt and the love story there. What do you think? Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 10:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Your ideas are sound. When I get a chance I will take a look at the sources, sandbox it, and see what I can come up with. DrNegative (talk) 13:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I will wait for your subsection before submissing the article for GAN. Cinosaur (talk) 15:27, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

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Retirement

DrNegative, I am sorry to see you retire, even semi-. Thank you for your company. Will look forward to having more fun editing with you some day. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 05:31, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you as well Cinosaur. Real-life has become very hectic lately and I simply cannot devote the amount of time to Wikipedia as I once did. Rest assured though I will still check in time to time whenever I have a chance to make a comment or revert vandalism should I come across any. Happy editing. DrNegative (talk) 16:31, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

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Hi, and congrats on the promotion of List of accolades received by Avatar to FL. Can I request that you comment at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of accolades received by Precious/archive1? Your input would be appreciated, not least on the inconsistencies between the Avatar list and this one. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 19:01, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but could you take a second look at the FLC, where the nominator replied? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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Hi DrNegative. It's been awhile since we last talked. May I ask you to weigh in on a topic here -- maybe I am just plain wrong and need to be corrected. Thanks and regards, Cinosaur (talk) 10:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, DrNegative. It does seem like a borderline case. In the meanwhile I have restored the template in the article while awaiting wiki-pundits' feedback. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 18:52, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

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