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Interesting image

Drawing of brain

A doctor contacted WMF (OTRS) and provided a scanned copy of a hand colored copper plate image of a brain, showing the limbic system. This came from a book in his collection, which he has packed for a move, so I do not know the title for sure, but my guess is that it is the book: Traité d'Anatomie et de Physiologie by Félix Vicq-d'Azyr published in 1786.

The doctor suggested it would be useful in Limbic system. In addition, I think it should be in the article about the author.

I'm reaching out to you for two reasons, first, on occasion, we get something that isn't what it purports to be, so I'd like someone with expertise to take a look at it.

Second, I don't think I should just drop the photo into either article by itself, so I hope to find someone who can add some relevant text. That doesn't have to be you, but I bet you know the best editor to contact, if not you.

I've uploaded the image here (probably need to improve the title)--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:12, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

(Tps) User:Looie496 might be able to help with this. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 23:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

It's an attractive image, but I'd be reluctant to use it without knowing for sure where it comes from and what the artist intended it to represent. Looie496 (talk) 13:36, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Copy and paste

I received your message and I was went back to begin to paraphrase the updated criteria for Generalized Anxiety Disorder. However I noticed you had already deleted my updated and reverted back to the old 2000 DSM-IV TR criteria. I am not going to waste my time if my work is just going to be deleted without consulting with me.

Edward Sodaro MD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edward Sodaro MD (talk • contribs) 15:44, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Simply paraphrase it and put it back in. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:08, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Other

Please stop reverting and please actually have a look at what you revert. I added a much better source in the meantime. Also, your claim that this is already covered is wrong. --rtc (talk) 12:07, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, Rtc (talk · contribs), looking at the disputed edit, we have an old (1977) World Health Organization (WHO) source vs. a 2005 Slate source. Neither source is ideal as far as Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) (WP:MEDRS) goes. Flyer22 (talk) 12:47, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

This is a description of the basic course of the infection. It hasn't changed since 1977. The 1977 source is obviously way more reliable than the 2005 source. And they don't contradict each other BTW. If you have better sources, feel free to add them. --rtc (talk) 12:51, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Great to see better sources being used. The mortality bit was already in the article supported by [1] both in the lead and the prognosis section. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:21, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

I also mis read your most recent edits and the new one is better. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:38, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Fixed the redundancy issues wrt. symptoms vs. mortality section. --rtc (talk) 20:14, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

(Not so very) Evil plans

Actually you're pretty much already on the right track wrt our actually quite unevil plans, I think. You could try putting links in some more templates. Experimenting is ok, after all. If after doing this for a bit there's STILL no drama, you can point it out to people. And then maybe RFC it if you have to. But by taking it easy you also have less friction going forward (It'll just start out slower).

Anyway, I figure you mostly know this, and I'm probably preaching to the choir and all. :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 23:08, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikiproject Med plagiarism detection bot

I am interested in taking on this project. Is this something you still desire to have happen? If so, I would like to explore more of what your requirements and desires are for this functionality. I have read the material at:

• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Archive_51#Exhausted
• Wikipedia talk:Turnitin#Posted here WT:WikiProject Medicine.23Exhausted

I did not find any other place where you may have described what you desired in more detail. So I am basing my assumptions on the information in those two locations.

There are a few things that I desired to discuss with you prior to diving into the project. Probably the most notable is to ask if you have a requirement for the method used for detection. From the above pages, and others under Turnitin, you appear to have a desire to use Turnitin. I agree that it would be desirable to use Turnitin. Unfortunately, it appears that collaboration with them has been stalled for the past two years. Thus, my opinion is that if there is a requirement to use Turnitin, then the project is, from a technical standpoint, currently a non-starter due to the lack of an approved relationship there. It would certainly be something towards which we could work, and could do so in parallel, but it would not be something upon which I would want to base this work at this time. I will want to flesh out what it is that you desire and any other terms but the use of Turnitin as a requirement is one that I wanted to check first as it appears, if it is a requirement, to be blocking development.

As to me: I recently completed a smaller on-Wikipedia contract project for Anthonyhcole which was requested on VPT, discussed on WikiProject Medicine and mentioned in your Exhausted thread. I am willing to share off-Wikipedia, full contact information and CV/resume or other information which you might desire. However, I do desire to retain anonymity on-Wikipedia. — Makyen (talk) 19:38, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes so we have a memorandum of understanding with Turnitin and approval from the WMF to go ahead with this. We are meeting with them again in a couple of weeks.

I do not see other possibilities other than turnitin

By the way are you in London this would? Would be happy to sit down in person and discuss. In fact I hear that it might not be too difficult as the pywikibot already has some scripts ready to be used for these purposes.

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:54, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Moving ahead with Turnitin is certainly the preferred detection method at this point. My investigation so far indicated that there are other options, just none that appeared as robust. I am glad to hear that things are moving forward with Turnitin. A MoU and approval from WMF appear to be good progress.

Unfortunately, I am not in London. If I was, I would be happy to sit down and discuss this.

My expectation is that there are portions which can be gleaned from various different sources, including other bots. Doing so, or at least using such as examples of how others have implemented some functionality, is something I would expect to do as part of any development. There is usually a researching phase to determine what resources are already available. How much code is reusable vs. coding from scratch is usually an implementation depended choice which will depend on multiple factors. I appreciate the pointer to pywikibot. I will take a look at it to see what that has available.

From you mentioning you are meting with Turnitin in a couple of weeks, I get the feeling that I should consider this to be on hold until that time. Is that a correct assumption? — Makyen (talk) 23:54, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Merlijn is working on it right now. It appears that it may not be as difficult as I feared as most of the code is available. We may have a beta version done soon :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 11:15, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Ok. How difficult it is depends on what can be re-used from other sources and the effort necessary to put such together. The availability of using Turnitin as the detection criteria potentially significantly reduces the difficulty. However, given that Turnitin keeps its API private what exactly is required is difficult to determine. Had I worked on this and without accounting for any unknown delay with Turnitin integration, my expectation was that having a working bot in the approvals process would have been well prior to the "couple of weeks" between now and your next meeting with Turnitin.

From your statement that Merlijn is working on it, I assume you have it covered and do not need/want me to work on it. Although I must admit to a bit of confusion as to Merlijn's participation as the global user contributions tool shows that account has a total of 3 contributions with the most recent in 2012. Are you sure that is the correct account name? — Makyen (talk) 15:29, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes not his user name. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:35, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Heartily applaud this effort, and ask you make it as broadly applicable to the sciences as possible. Is there a place where discussion on this is going on? Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 19:05, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

yes plan is wide availability eventually, still needs some work Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 06:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

I saw your messages. Thanks! Biomedicinal (talk)

Your welcome and welcome to Wikipedia, happy to have you join us. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Copy and Paste

I received your incomplete message but I can guess what you were trying to tell me. However, I would like to tell you that the entire thing was not copied and pasted. However I also saw that you have deleted that reference of mine and inserted your own reference of another site. Why did so ? You should have maintained my reference link and edited the description which you thought was copy pasted. This is wrong !Ravikantc (talk) 12:35, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Do not copy and paste anything from sources. Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

The text you added was "On 8th August 2014, The World Health Organization (WHO) declared the Ebola outbreak in West Africa to be an international public health emergency that requires an extraordinary response to stop its spread. WHO announced the Ebola outbreak the largest and longest in history is worrying enough to merit being declared an international health emergency. WHO declared similar emergencies for the swine flu pandemic in 2009 and for polio in May 2014."

The ref says "The World Health Organization (WHO) on Friday declared the Ebola outbreak in West Africa to be an international public health emergency that requires an extraordinary response to stop its spread. The WHO announced the Ebola outbreak the largest and longest in history is worrying enough to merit being declared an international health emergency. WHO declared similar emergencies for the swine flu pandemic in 2009 and for polio in May."

How is this not a copy and paste violation? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:26, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Answer my second question, why did you delete my reference link instead of editing my copy paste description ? Was there any problem with the link ?Ravikantc (talk) 11:54, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

source was poor also Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:49, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

wat

no i didnt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.6.101 (talk) 08:50, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Not sure to what you refer. Is it this edit [2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Brand name

Thanks for your comments about my brand name changes, I'll follow the rules from now on. My personal opinion is that bolding the brand names is tantamount to advertising for them. You're right about how long the list of brand names can be, but why not put zero brandnames at the beginning and just have a reference to the later section with the brandnames listed, not bolded ;-). Dougher (talk) 00:33, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

This was a compromise we reached. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:54, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikimania

Hi! I was wondering if your talk at Wikimania ([3]) was filmed. Would really be interested in watching it. All the best! --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:04, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes was filmed. When it will be available I am not sure. My slides are here [4] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:14, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing. Very nice presentation. I will check back for the video. I just want to stay up to date and see where Wikidata could potentially help out. -Tobias1984 (talk) 16:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Video is here [5] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:50, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! -Tobias1984 (talk) 22:59, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

In the video mentioned above, Doc James appears between 08:00 and 45:00. --Hordaland (talk) 01:26, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Your changes to my edit in birth control

Would you please explain why you undid my edit. All I was doing was moving the exact same content to a more logical place. Preventing STI's does not belong in the first paragraph of "birth control," in my opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deisenbe (talk • contribs) 14:21, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

I mentioned why both on your user page and on the talk page of the article in question. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:27, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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Ok, thanks. Point noted. Won't do it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azeezrilwan (talk • contribs) 19:04, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Request quick medical review, by you or a colleague

Doc, I needed an anatomical resource for a student on male-female pelvic differences, and went here and did a quick edit—to merge different places in the section that covered the pelvis, and to make clearer the anatomical terms theretofore appearing. At the same time, I moved the better referenced skeletal section up (and did cursory cleanup to the muscle-strength subsection): [6]. Could you give a quick read, and make sure it is accurate? I made text additions only from the existing wikipedia links (to expand the anatomical terms), checked refs when readily available, but did no further referencing or content addition. (Edit summary has the particulars; diffs are confusing because they fail to align properly, but here they are: [7] (skeletal edit) and [8] (change of order of sections, and musculature edit).) Bottom line, just structural changes and citation comments. Can you give it a check for accuracy? Thanks. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 19:02, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

User:Leprof 7272 looks okay to me. Could use some simplification is wording. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 02:40, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Duloxetine

I added some material to this article. Since it is related to a subject we disagreed on previously, and because you are on vacation, I wanted to bring this to your attention and avoid any appearance that this was done behind your back. Thanks, Formerly 98 (talk) 05:02, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 02:45, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Medical Wikidata, Citation MetaData

There is now Wikidata:WikiProject Source MetaData, and Daniel Mietchen is starting off with malaria-related scientific articles. Is good source metadata of broad interest to the medical data community on Wikipedia? If so, is there a suitable place to ask them for input (for example, what metadata fields would medical editors like?)?

I've also been talking to the Cochrane Collaboration about sharing their database with Wikidata, and they are interested but understandably worried about labour costs. I'm told that the IdeaLab and Wikimedia Deutschland are both possible sources of funding for a data interoperability internship or some such; do you know of any other good routes? HLHJ (talk) 17:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

@HLHJ: What kind of metadata would Cochrane provide? I think that at the moment Wikidata and d:Wikidata:WikiProject Medicine should concentrate on alleviating medical editors from maintenance activities so they can concentrate on content. Primarily that includes interwiki-links and identifiers to medical catalogues. Possible next steps would be the centralization of categories (a ontology that is currently build in 270 different languages, wasting a lot of time). We are slowly moving towards this goal: The Drugbank-ID stored on Wikidata is now used in some Russian-Wiki templates (d:Property talk:P715). So if Cochrane can do one thing, they should try to make all medical identifiers freely available in a machine-readable form. --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:02, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Since they seem to have databases, I can't imagine much is in non-machine-readable form. Risk of bias assessments of articles were mentioned, and other raw review data. With such metadata, when I found a relevant article, I could ask the database whether this article had been incorporated into any systematic reviews. I could ask it for a list of all the articles which had been incorporated into systematic reviews that also incorporated this article. I could ask for the proportion of those studies that were double-blinded, or had trial registrations listed. I could ask for the links to the articles and their registrations. I could plot how long the studies lasted, or how many people they involved... etc., automatically. Would this be useful enough to medical editors to justify the effort? HLHJ (talk) 19:03, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

User:HLHJ With respect to meta data would like to see 1) DOI 2) PMID 3) whether or not pubmed considers it a review article 4) whether or not it is open source plus the rest of the standard stuff Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 02:49, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Voice and ORCID

Hi,

Good to see you in London. Please don't forget to record your voice for our article about you; and add your ORCID to your user page. I'll be happy to then update the article accordingly. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:14, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Andy Mabbett [9] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 03:06, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks; article and Wikidata updated. Please add {{Authority control|ORCID=0000-0002-1347-7700}} to your user page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:32, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

References

There are no reviewed articles regarding use of Ruxolitinib in hair loss. I assume this is because of how recent the study is. Is using a peer reviewed article not advisable at this stage? WP:MEDRS does not mention this. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OneLuis (talk • contribs) 18:53, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes we typically like a higher level of evidence than a primary source. Ideal sources are review articles. Primary sources should rarely be used. Especially one that comments on only three cases. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 19:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Barebacking

I thought I was providing enough documentation (references) by citing two other Wikipedia articles, which do in fact have references. Should I copy the references which are there (the relevant ones, anyway)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deisenbe (talk • contribs) 20:10, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes content needs to be reffed in the article in question. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:31, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

u gotta be kidding

Doc James, did you really think anyone thinks vitiligo causes death?--Yodnip (talk) 17:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

That is what you have continued to add to the article.[10] That is what "succumbed" means in English. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:45, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I am amused that you think anyone assumes or ever assumed that vitiligo causes death. In any event, please check your dictionary as to the meaning of Succumb.--Yodnip (talk) 18:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Yup it says "die from the effect of a disease or injury." Thus one of my issues with your text. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:09, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

See then the first translation. In any event, let's call a truce and move on?--Yodnip (talk) 18:43, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Which first translation? Can you provide a dif please. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 18:45, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

"Fail to resist (pressure, temptation, or some other negative force). "he has become the latest to succumb to the strain" synonyms: yield, give in/way, submit, surrender, capitulate, cave in "she succumbed to temptation". Now, how do you suppose to reword the addition I've worded (in addition to removing Succumb to avoid future confusion)?----Yodnip (talk) 18:49, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, are you going to man up to admit that you erred?--Yodnip (talk) 20:16, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I did not err. You used the term in a medical article in a way such that it appears to mean that the person died from concern. I still oppose this wording and the references you are using are still poor. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:35, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Palliative Care and Cirrhosis

Thanks for your input and helpful links:) I really appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmersenne (talk • contribs) 20:45, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Your welcome. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:48, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Cystic Fibrosis

Rather than delete the reference entirely, why didn't you edit it into a paraphrase that would be suitable for you? I was working on the entry and was intending to come back to it. In response to your question, no, I don't usually cut and paste. --Nbauman (talk) 22:29, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

One should never cut and paste. Also one does not get to cut and paste and adjust latter.

The other issue is that this was a primary source which is not a huge issue for this content, but why did you remove the Canadian data? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:33, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Template:psychostimulant addiction

Anphetamine article

Can you take a screenshot of how that image appears on your screen for me? Seppi333 (Insert 2¢ | Maintained) 01:12, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

It takes up 80% of my screen. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 01:14, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

That's more or less how those images look on my iphone - so long as it doesn't stretch beyond the smallest browser widths, I'm happy. In any event, that's template:amphetamine pharmacodynamics. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢ | Maintained) 01:34, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Ebola virus disease

Dr. James, I thinks you deny people access to badly needed, well-documented, highly relevant, lifesaving information in an extraordinary situations where medical ethics and common sense could be considered not only your interpretation of which references are sufficiently specific. This article is the first coming up when I Google Ebola, and all statistic and relevant experts say new solutions are needed too. I have documented with scientific journal articles that ash is highly alkaline and effective for handwashing and many poor cannot afford soap in the tropics. Alternatives are badly needed for stopping the spread of Ebola and in August the international expert committee encourage use of prevention methods even if they wore not particularly documented for Ebola. I have not yet included this article showing that the government in Liberia found it necessary to soap and disinfectants http://news.yahoo.com/prices-soar-liberia-struggles-contain-ebola-0526776.html - and I may not even try because it is not particularly academic. However, it contains well-documented, neglected info vital for saving many lives. If you need documentation for the trivial fact that alkaline substances are lipid solvents I will be happy to provide it, but I suppose you will censor that fact too. Please advise me what to do, when no specific study of ash and Ebola exist, and it is the only realistic option for many to clean hands, floors and things well. The growth rate of Ebola have not even reduced in West Africa with the current approach and you take the personal responsibility for denying people information of a well-documented alternative. I am a specialist in ash and rural Africa and have published in well-cited journals and find you approach to editing highly unusual. I have lived 6 years in rural Africa and know about access to hygiene, sterilization, ash and health facilities - and I do care.

Regards Torsten Mandal, M.Sc. with relevant PhD courses in e.g. Analytical and Physical Chemistry with report on African wood ash. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TorstenMandal (talk • contribs) 18:59, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

"when no specific study of ash and Ebola exist" we do not add information to it about Wikipedia. We do not publish primary research. Please publish a review about it or get a major organization to comment on it and than we will include the information. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:38, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

(talk page lurker here) I haven't read any page(s) here about Ebola, but I should assume that the importance of hygiene is stressed. Our article Hygiene article states: "In low income communities, mud or ash is sometimes used as an alternative to soap." Don't know if that helps at all.... --Hordaland (talk) 23:13, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Ebola virus disease I have already cited WHO document recommendations for use of ash for hand washing where soap is scarce and similar review articles. All get deleted.by Doc James because it is not specifically about Ebola - but essential for stopping Ebola in my view. Here are some additional links (but the removed was better)for that e.g. UNICEF have promoted the use of ash for handwashing http://www.unicef.org/about/annualreport/files/Guinea_Bissau_COAR_2013.pdf and p. 34 in http://www.unicef.org/about/annualreport/files/Zambia_COAR_2013.pdf or WHO http://www.afro.who.int/en/zimbabwe/press-materials/item/5063-zimbabwe-commemorates-global-handwashing-day.html This is not "original research", and a Wikipedia rule states no rules without exemptions. That a page on Hygiene mention ash and mud sometimes is used does not inform the readers interested in Ebola that ash actually helps in cleaning hands for germs, despite it is well documented and officially recommended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TorstenMandal (talk • contribs) 04:46, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

If it was as important as you state than WHO or the CDC would mention it with respect to Ebola. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 06:18, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for meeting in UK

Let me know if I can do something between ja.wp community. --Takot (talk) 19:24, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

User:Takot that would be excellent. I am going to be landing in Tokyo on Sept 6th and would love to meet with the local community especially if there's interest in working to improve medical content. Will than be heading to Nagano prefecture. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:17, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

I just sent an invitation email to a medical student near Tokyo area. Hope she has an interest. And will post to ja:プロジェクト‐ノート:医学 soon. --Takot (talk) 16:12, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Ebola virus disease

Hello, Jmh. I am relatively new to editing Wikipedia. I think I made a mistake in editing the article about Ebola you reverted, and I was wondering if I could gain your assistence in making it better.

My reason for editing the article is this:

The phrase

"[ebola] is only spread by direct contact with the secretions from someone who is showing signs of infection"

is wrong.

The medical data on this (as supported by the FAQ sheet of the WHO which I linked) state that transmission may occur when one comes into contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person, through blood-to-blood contact or through mucus membranes, *whether or not* the patient is showing symptoms. As long as the virus is present, it can be transmitted. Yes, chances of transmission are much smaller before symptoms occur, and massively increase as soon as symptoms occur, but are nevertheless there.

My question to you is twofold:

- I know my first attempt at editing this is a bit haphazard, and I should think of a better way. But for what reasons did *you* revert my edit?

- How would you improve the article?

Thanks for your response!

Gr,

--Gralgrathor (talk) 11:49, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

User:Gralgrathor Thanks for the post. It would be this edit [11]

The ref from the CDC states "Individuals who are not symptomatic are not contagious." [12]

Can you provide the WHO source that states differently? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:41, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Question

When you say "reply on my page" do mean here or your website? Avery Arora 23:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Here thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 03:57, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

editing physical therapy page

sorry dear,

i edited your page for good faith and knowledge. basically, physical therapy is celebrated as world day. so, i included this information on your page.

if you add such information on your physical therapy page, it will be more informative that physical therapy is celebrated as world day.

thanks

The issue is you copy and pasting content from the source in question. You must paraphrase or put in your own words the sources. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 08:00, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

2014 West Africa Ebola virus outbreak

Your message Welcome to Wikipedia. In this edit [1] content copied and pasted from [2] was added. Due to licensing we must paraphrase everything we add to Wikipedia. Thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:05, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Doc James. I will para phrase it today. New to the platform . Still need to learn to all the tricks.. Appreciate your help. --BrianGroen (talk) 06:57, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Your welcome. Does take time to get used to. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 07:20, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi doc James i have updated it.. hope it is correct now.. Thank you for your help.--BrianGroen (talk) 08:34, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

The paraphrasing is still a little close. You need to reword things more. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 08:54, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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Moving text from one article to another

Yes, I agree. It was my oversight. Enthusiast (talk) 11:32, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

No worries :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 11:34, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

User:EranBot account flags

Please let me know what I'm missing here? According to Special:ListGroupRights, the only permission that Autopatrolled adds is autopatrol; the skipcaptcha permission is bundled in to Autoconfirmed. Please review and let me know? (Note, I did approve the bot trial on the RFBOT page already). — xaosflux ^Talk 16:01, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Ah so it is confirmed user they need than? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:38, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Adding the confirmed group is doing nothing at all, and the autopatrolled flag does nothing except assign the permission autopatrol, impacting the tags on Newly Created Pages for new pages patrollers. If this account ends up needing a very fast ratelimit down the line, that will be taken care of with the noratelimit premission, currently part of the bot group. If the trial could not technically complete without noratelimit, then the temporary workaround would be to add account creator group, but this is almost never an issue during bot trials.

User:EranBot currently is:

Member of: Autopatrolled and Confirmed users

Implicit member of: Autoconfirmed users

So neither of those groups should be required for the trial, or for ongoing operations at all. I certainly don't want to wheel war with you over this; if you agree please revert this account back to normal, if not we can discuss further. If there is a technical bug you've come across I'd be very interested in it, as it could impact other bot trials that are in progress. Thank you, — xaosflux ^Talk 23:22, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey User:Eran does your bot need either of these to avoid captcha? It is likely old enough and has made enough edits not to. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:00, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Once the bot is autoconfirmed (4 days since registration) it isn't required I think. Eran (talk) 18:05, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Great if you do not need them I will remove. Let me know if this causes problems and I will return. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:28, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

References and Footnotes backwards section titles; functionality doesn't depend on titles

Why, what do you think I missed at WP:ASL? Looks like human-readable (but non-parsed) section titles of References (used for footnotes) and Footnotes (for References, some of which use sfn citation style), completely backward. The section names are arbitrary and not a matter of automated parsing. I'll try in sandbox Paulscrawl (talk) 23:53, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Tested and proven. Done. Appreciate your concern, but this is exactly how it's done in many articles. Paulscrawl (talk) 00:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Sure do not care what they are called. Was just putting it under a single section. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 00:51, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I'll reply on the article talk page. Paulscrawl (talk) 01:46, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

how to paraphrase please explain--02:39, 25 August 2014 (UTC)S03042812 (talk)S03042812S03042812 (talk) 02:39, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Paraphrase means to "put in your own words" Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:07, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Edit on Pharyngitis

Hey there. Why did you feel it was necessary to revert the article and dismiss my edits?

Because you edits broke the references. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:18, 26 August 2014 (UTC)