DavefaceFMS

May 2022

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Overlinking

Hi DavefaceFMS - I have reverted/re-edited a number of your edits at Nairn , for overlinking - so I have come to explain the reason.
As explained at ‎ WP:OVERLINKING we only link the first use of a term in an article. Please bear this in mind when editing our articles - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 12:27, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks very much for letting me know - DavefaceFMS 12:38, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

List of accused witches and warlocks of Nairn moved to draftspace

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Well done - but ...

Firstly, thank you for the detailed work that you have put in on the Nairn article.
Then comes the but - why it there always a but?
The history section now totally dominates the article - using the rough calculation of "pages" (which varies with your screen size and zoom settings), I see about 15 pages for the history and 6.5 pages for the rest of the article - i.e. the history is about 70% of the article.
The article has a "readable prose size" (click "Page size" in the LH margin) of 67kB (this excludes block quotes and lists, so the article is actually much longer) whilst WP:SIZERULE suggests that any article with a readable prose size > 60 kB "Probably should be divided". You may not be experiencing problems. but as the article grows, readers, especially those on smaller, older, devices, may not be able to read to the end of the article, or it may simply abort the download, so they can read nothing.
The solution, as explained at Wikipedia:Splitting is to split the article, so that History of Nairn is a separate article, with either just a simple link to that page in the Nairn article, or, preferably, the link and a (fairly) short precis of the history, in the article.
If the article continues to grow, I will bring this up at Talk:Nairn, but I wanted to raise the problem, and possible solution, with you beforehand.
Thanks again for your work - Arjayay (talk) 20:21, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate all the help you've been putting in there too. I've been actually thinking the same thing in terms of the growth of the page but specifically that section. History is where I started just because that's the section I looked at when I opened the page and thought surely Nairn has more history than this. As much as I have touched on religion, culture and sport in small ways history has remained the focus.

History does dominate and I expect will continue to do so. I'd been of a mind to reduce the content itself but that felt like cheapening the whole section by trying to cut down on the nuances of some complex issues, removing context. It's one of the reasons I modified the TOC and added in the Sub-TOC for the history section itself to try and reduce the visual load of so many headings. I hadn't thought on it as a technical problem of file size.

I wasn't sure the history of Nairn would be notable enough in itself as a page but I have learned since that it's rather a large topic. I've not even touched the 18th - 21st centuries yet so I'm sure it would continue to grow and I'm sure we will see significantly more sources and events documented in those centuries. It seems like it would be wise to think about splitting, I hadn't thought of that option. Not something I have much experience with. - DavefaceFMS 20:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Cut and paste move

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Tattie Scone. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Finally, per the policy on capitalization in article titles, "Scone" should be lowercase. Thanks, HouseBlaster^talk 16:56, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks so much I wasn't aware of that process. - DavefaceFMS 17:01, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

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