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March 2010

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April 2010

Categories

Why are you emptying category and then nominating them for deletion ? AlphaGamma1991 (talk) 00:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Usage - Waziristan

  1. Wikipedia policy is to reflect English usage in names.
  2. Perhaps equally important is that "agency" when attached to these names refers to "government". The articles are not just about the governments of North Waziristan and South Waziristan, they are about the economies, the history, the geography, etc., as well as the governments. It is not surprising that the "official web site", which is run by the government, uses the term "North Waziristan Agency".
  3. The principle of KISS (simplicity is best) suggests that "Agency" is not needed in these titles.
  4. If you really believe that these need to be moved, I suggest the formal discussions under Wikipedia:Requested moves. --Bejnar (talk) 17:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

May 2010

Northern Pakistan Language Map

Start of this thread

I created this map after extensively studying the languages and geography of Northern Pakistan. By Northern Pakistan I mean the northernmost geographical regions of Pakistan i.e. The Northern regions of the Malakand Division, Hazara Division and Gilgit-Baltistan. More specifically I have only included the non-Pashto and non-Hindko speaking regions of Malakand and Hazara. This map shows the linguistic diversity of a region known to the colonial British Ethnologists and linguists as Dardistan and is the only map of its type available on the internet, not to mention the most geographically accurate. To delete it would be a great disservice to the academic study of the Dardic (and other minority) languages of Northern Pakistan. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred-Bolor (talkcontribs) 13:07, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

 Y Response left at User talk:Fred-Bolor Green Giant (talk) 03:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Please refer to the discussion page of the file in question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred-Bolor (talkcontribs) 20:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Also refer to my talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred-Bolor (talkcontribs) 20:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

Bridge Over Troubled Water

I've removed your G6 speedy requests from these pages as G6 is for "uncontroversial maintenance". The fact that your request goes against naming conventions means that such a move is clearly not uncontroversial and so a requested move should be made instead. Dpmuk (talk) 09:48, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

fetch·comms 02:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Apure

Thanks for the notification. I had not seen this, so I moved the article back. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm also withdrawing the corresponding category nominations until the issue settles. Thanks again. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:04, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for notification. Can you have a look at: Talk:Falcón_(state)#Requested_move. Thanks. Schwyz (talk) 22:21, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

August 2010

Administrative divisions of Belarus

Talk:Administrative_divisions_of_Belarus#Requested_move - Support. But should be uppercase. Schwyz (talk) 03:43, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Need help, municipalities Venezuela

es:WP does it wrong, es:Municipio Piar (Monagas) and the Bolivar one is es:Municipio Piar. To prevent this I re-created Piar Municipality as dab and created a stub for Piar Municipality, Monagas. I also created a stub for Caripe Municipality. I think A3 is not met. Can you review? Schwyz (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Manoj Tiwari

Hi, this is why we have hatlinks to disambiguate. This will be no problem - check the description Template:About for all the ways this can be clarified. Hekerui (talk) 07:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Vanjagenije

 
Hello, Cromium. You have new messages at Vanjagenije's talk page.
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Removal of Infobox country from secessionist movements articles

I really admire your conviction to prove your point about the use of Infobox Country; to the extent that you went and removed the infobox on all pages that had it. However, you have taken this task without consensus of the Wikipedia team. I would recommend you do that. Maybe you can create a template for secessionist movements; as you suggested one should be made.

Also; the talk page is mine and I wished to clear it up. Any efforts to obstruct that are vandalism; and shall be reported to an admin.

Cheers.

--92.8.124.45 (talk) 17:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Template:Districts of Balochistan (Pakistan) Map

I have declined your G6 speedy deletion request: no explanation was given about why this needs to be deleted. Please discuss this at Templates for discussion if you think this should be deleted. I noticed that you were using Twinkle - why did you think this template needed deleting? Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Regarding User talk:92.8.124.45...

I must point out that you are mistaken in what you said on the IP's talk page: WP:UP#CMT says: Removal of comments, notices, and warnings Policy does not prohibit users, whether registered or anonymous users, from removing comments from their own talk pages, although archiving is preferred. The removal of material from a user page is normally taken to mean that the user has read and is aware of its contents. There is no need to keep them on display and usually users should not be forced to do so. It is often best to simply let the matter rest if the issues stop. If they do not, or they recur, then any record of past warnings and discussions can be found in the page history if ever needed, and these diffs are just as good evidence of previous matters if needed.

A number of important matters may not be removed by the user – they are part of the wider community's processes or exist to prevent gaming of the system:

  • Declined unblock requests, ban and confirmed sockpuppetry related notices (while any sanctions are still in effect)
  • Miscellany for deletion tags (while the discussion is in progress)
  • Speedy deletion tags and requests for uninvolved administrator help (the patrolling administrator will quickly determine if these are valid or not; use {{hangon}} to object and post a comment, do not just remove the tag).
  • For IP editors, templates in Category:Shared IP header templates and notes left to indicate other users may share the same IP address.
  • {{Noindex}} added to user pages and subpages under this guideline (except with agreement or by consensus). Note this can safely be removed from talk pages and subpages where it has no effect.

Note that restoring talk page notices is not a listed exception to the three-revert rule.

Just thought I'd let you know, for future reference! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I'm not particularly bothered by people blanking talkpages but this particular IP made four questionable edits in less than two days (including a retributive act on my alternate account), and each received a user warning. The fourth warning was only a level-1 warning because the IP blanked the talkpage and the editor assumed this was a one-off event. It helps other editors to be able to see if a talkpage has had several warnings in a short time, because then a more appropriate warning can be left. I know that diffs can be used as evidence but editors don't always have the time to look through the talk history to see if others have been left recently.
  • As you point out above, the IP's actions in blanking are also a case of removing "notes left to indicate other users may share the same IP address".
  • Anyway the IP is annoyed with me because I disagree with her/his POV (that a country that doesn't exist, should be treated as if it does exist) and I am no shrinking violet when it comes to sticking by firm rules like NPOV. Green Giant (talk) 00:41, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Province of Pomerania

Can you have a look at Talk:Province_of_Pomerania_(1815-1945)#Requested_move. Schwyz (talk) 10:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Hajvery University

Hi Green, I have moved the article to Hajvery University, I suspect that you could have done it yourself as there seemed to be no protection nowadays, and it all happened before I was an admin, but as a result of problematic AFC. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:05, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello Green, Thanks for your guidance and letting me know about the policies and procedures. Can I upload the previous version of the article? I suppose you would have no objection on that. Thanks HUPK (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:15, 16 August 2010 (UTC).

Edits in Notable people portion of article

re Balochistan, Pakistan

Sir, I hope the included names may be treated as positive change as they are also a part of Notable people people in Pakistan specially in Balochistan, and the constructive changes may not be consider as Vandalism Please.--Rind Baloch 05:53, 19 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rind Baloch (talkcontribs)

87.8.103.233

Hey good job in reverting this vandal. If you could please help and report any Telecomm Italia IPs to me that would be great. I've been watching this vandal for quite some time now. See User:Elockid/notes1 if you're interested. Elockid (Talk) 01:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

"kingdom"

I'm addressing this on your talk page, rather than the article talkpage, because it's such a minor issue. You reverted my edit as "POV". I apologize if my edit summary was misleading, or unclear. I did not mean to intone that this was based on my opinion. I was simply stating what the rules of the English language say. Best wishes! 2tuntony (talk) 02:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, after looking over it again, it looks like the "POV" that you reverted was a section of text, added by a different editor. My minor capitalization edit probably got caught up in it. In any case, I hope everything is OK with it now. Take care. 2tuntony (talk) 02:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Sorry about that, I was only intending to revert the AnonIP's paragraph. I think there was probably only a few seconds between our edits. For the record I agree with your decapitalisation of the word "kingdom". Green Giant (talk) 03:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. I should have checked that out more thoroughly before posting here. I'm glad everything has been cleared up. Happy editing!! 2tuntony (talk) 07:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks!! :)

To (substituted to reduce use of articlespace templates) in my user pager :) Light WarriorConspiracy?!? 03:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Good work!

  The Original Barnstar
For general good work, including trimming some lengthy external links sections. bodnotbod (talk) 09:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to move the star to anywhere in your user space you'd prefer to have it.

National University of Sciences and Technology

Hi, now that National University of Sciences and Technology redirects to a disambiguation page, per WP:FIXDABLINKS please help clean up the links that now need to be pointed to an article. Thanks, --JaGatalk 10:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

September 2010

Hi... Sub: Mahatma Gandhi

Would you please see my comment on the discussion page Pakistan titled Mahatma Gandhi and tell me what u think about it? Regards,...

Amartya ray2001 (talk) 09:47, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: citing verifiable data

I tried my best to add 100% accurate information. but if somthing was entered which you think is not verified or correct please mention it to me. I'll be more cautious next time. Thanks for notifying. Thanks again. Bye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irfan shehzad (talkcontribs) 12.00, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

The problem was with what you added to the Lahore article. The first sentence was:
What you needed to provide was a verifiable source which says this is true. Otherwise we have to assume it is your personal opinion and/or original research.
The second sentence was:
The same applies again but with extra requirements - there are essentially three statements in that sentence; the opinion that Lahore is "very beautiful"; the opinion that it is a "dangerous city" due to suicide bombings; the opinion that the militant groups are supported by "foreign agencies". Each of those statements needs a verifiable source. I hope that clears that up. Beyond that is of course the matter of spelling and grammar but that is something easily fixed. Green Giant (talk) 15:34, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

native names

Thanks for reverting the this edit. but i was wondering why that template uses the native name only at the top and not article name. becaus ethen now they are putting english names where the native name column is. so i have just put both english and punjabi name with a br Gman124 (talk) 14:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:Symbols of Pakistan

Hello Green Giant! I was adding/removing categories from different Pakistan-related templates when came across this template and noticed that through the history tool, that you have been watching over the template. Over an year ago, you reverted edits by an anonymous user (unregistered IP) by claiming that those were FAKE symbols. But website of Ministry of Culture of Pakistan clearly state these symbols. Hence, they are not fake (at least not anymore). I request either you put these symbols in the template by yourself or let me do it. Thanks! Farjad0322(talk|sign|contribs) 15:01, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

At the time, there was only one definite listing of these symbols, at the Information Ministry website (infopak.gov.pk) and that still does not list several of these things. There was a particular IP (92.0.49.21) which went on a campaign of inventing all sorts of symbols like territorial animals and birds without a single source and it took a lot of effort to track down and remove the IP's original research. I have a feeling that the IP has some connections to the Ministry of Culture and has proposed this list to them after I repeatedly pointed out the need for sources. The Pakistani government has caused us some problems by liberally copying Wikipedia content and then backdating copyright claims - see for instance this case with Sindh where an official website claimed copyright for material that was apparently written on Wikipedia first. I feel the Culture Ministry website is a dubious source although I would be happy to include any symbol that is corroborated by at least one other government website like infopak.gov.pk. Green Giant (talk) 15:27, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
A very valid point here. So far as we know, it is pretty much clear to every Pakistan resident that which is our national language, dress, poet, game, animal and bird. You are right, we do need proper sources before making any of these claims. But then again, it is only a feeling that unregistered IP had some connections with the Ministry of Culture. It has to be noted that Ministry of Culture has the authority over the documentation cultural heritage of Pakistan. I would look for another reliable website and then share my findings with you. Thanks! Farjad0322(talk|sign|contribs) 15:38, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

acronyms

You are certainly right about the correct titles of articles on organizations, and I very much appreciate your work on them. However, the easiest and clearest way of asking for it now is with the template designed for the purpose: {{db-move}} which has the syntax {{db-move|1=PAGE TO BE MOVED HERE|2=REASON FOR MOVE}} (normally, "correct title per MOS" is sufficient as reason), Then we deleting admins can accomplish the move, deletion, and creation of the new redirect simultaneously in a single step. The more you can catch, the better, as it's very easy for us to fix them. DGG ( talk ) 21:17, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

 
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You might be interested in discussing to $ discussion KuwarOnline Talk 06:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

Your contributions

Like your two colleagues who commented on my talk page before you, you 1/ didn't review the situation thoroughly enough to comment intelligently on it, and 2/ are mistaken about proper uses of Huggle. 160.39.212.104 (talk) 12:17, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

MFD

Just a quick tip, you can nominate multiple related pages in the same MFD if the deletion reason is the same. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:UC'tCM!/AC Characters for an example. The MFD tag for each page in this case is "{{subst:mfd3|pg=the title of the debate}}". MER-C 06:58, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Doing this would be a very good idea, because as it is now, my computer died when trying to load the page, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 20:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Nabi vs Rasul

i recently changed a the word Nabi to Rasul, which has a more specific meaning, now you said in your reversion that we dont need titles like this, also why did you not remove the title of Nabi previously. Also if someone is a professor you call them professor so if someone is a nabi or a rasul you call them by that title also. Also when you use the title there cannot be any misunderstanding to who the person you are talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.107.71 (talk) 00:36, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know the word Nabi means prophet which is not a honourific title but rather a religious title and Rasul means messenger. They are more descriptions of a person in the views of the people. Fact he is considered a prophet in the eyes of muslims so there is no clash with the rules. I did not say PBUH or any of the stated unsanctioned discriptions. Is he or is he not described as a Rasul and a Nabi? Also you cannot just merely state a single name without a discription of who he was as somebody who has no prior knowledge will not understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.107.71 (talk) 02:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Kochi

Hi, recently some new editors started editing the Kochi article. Their aim is to glorify the city page. They are hardcore advocates of Kochi and have specific aim to hype every thing about the city. They might be connected to the real estate lobbys in the city. And that is why they are adding false statements like Kochi was referred by MK Gandhi as "Epitome of adventure". There are lot more similar statements in the article now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.67.131.151 (talk) 08:30, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Shahada tags

Okay The shahada is a national emblem for some Muslim states, so I added their banners, as they will be categorized under Category:National symbols of ''Country''. If you don't think that's appropriate, I'm not going to fight you on it. Thanks for your message, and if you want to discuss this further, please post on my talk. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 01:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Sure If you think that's best. Thanks again for notifying me. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 02:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Template:PoliticsUS

In general, unless they fall under G8, I'm not willing to delete redirects (other than ones from userspace) that aren't rather recent. Since this redirect is over five years old, I don't believe it proper to delete. Nyttend (talk) 01:28, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy Green Giant's Day!

 

Green Giant has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
so I've officially declared today as Green Giant's Day!
For being a great person and awesome Wikipedian,
enjoy being the star of the day, Green Giant!

Signed, Neutralhomer

A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, click here. Have a Great Day...NeutralhomerTalk • 06:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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