User talk:Caker18/Archive 2019/November

A request for help from Magicalr2d2

Hi Caker18, I believe you know me. I was hoping you could give me some advice about editing on wikipedia. Thanks, Magicalr2d2 (talk) 03:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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November 2019

Wikipedia's technical logs indicate that this user account has been or may be used abusively. It has been blocked indefinitely from editing to prevent abuse.

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 — Berean Hunter (talk) 19:03, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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Request reason:

Greetings, I, as described in a previous UTRS request (for the exemption from IP blocking), edit from schools, coffeeshops, and other locations with great potential from vandalism. I believe you are mistaken when you say that this account may have been used abusively. This is especially pronounced because I have not done anything deserving such a block and although I wish to keep my composure I am utterly baffled and confused as to why you would go ahead with a block without even sending me an email confirming the situation. I assure you, this account has not been compromised. I even sent a message along with the aforementioned UTRS request describing the situation. I also want to clarify that I personally submitted a WP:UAA complaint against Caker19 for attempting to impersonate me, which can be found here: [1]. I am not Nikita either, I have no idea who they are and I do not believe that bans should be meted for a mere alignment in IP addresses, as that would discourage editing from locations like schools, universities, and libraries. I am also concerned how the Checkuser investigation took 19 minutes, completely disregarding everything except for IP address. Finally, I would like to raise a topic of question around Berean Hunter's ability to accurately find socks. This is concerning, and so are a couple others that can be found on Berean Hunter's user page. Again, I confirm I am not a sockpuppet. I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 20:04, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Decline reason:

As below, the investigation took more than 19 mins. There is more to this than a 'mere alignment in ip addresses'. SQL^{Query me!} 21:02, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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• My first check for this investigation began at 16:01, more than four hours ago
• Whoever said anything about "mere alignment in IP addresses"? Interesting.
• Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DeepNikita
   — Berean Hunter (talk) 20:44, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Alright, then but I would like to know exactly why this was implemented and more input. I am not affiliated with the other two accounts. Also, the time of opening and the time of closing (timestamps) indicate 19 minutes.I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 21:07, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

It would indeed be convenient to know what those reasons were, and what was more than a mere IP alignment. I have edited with this account from a variety of IP addresses, and the IP address I am editing from aligns to a school, so if Checkuser data is what this ban is based on, then editing from a public place is the reason. Or is editing from a school against the rules now? The similarity of usernames indicates a troll more than a sockpuppetry, if it were WP:SOCK then it would be reasonable not to use the Caker## stem, right? This block is entirely unfounded. Also, I cannot access this, so I can't refute it. Please rethink this, these accounts are unrelated and I have been the victim of a troll and an authority mistake. Also, you can see the times I have been at a school or public location and the times I've been at home. These times will be similar and the data will be different. I'm sure whoever the other two parties are will also have such data, where they have been editing from seperate IP addresses, and this is only one IP where we all converge. Also, see this image: https://ibb.co/qNHFy6K - there were 19 minutes of difference between filing and conclusion. I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 21:15, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I'm sorry, but I cannot unblock you at this time as this is a sockpuppetry and/or checkuser block. Check users have access to technical and personally identifying information they may not disclose openly on Wikipedia. Please read and heed the relevant sections of the WP:GAB. If this is not your original account, you will need to appeal at your original account. -- Deepfriedokra 11:11, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

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• You misunderstand. I blocked this account and Caker19 before I ever started the SPI report which was paperwork after I had concluded my investigation. The 19 minutes was because I was cooking and typing the cu wiki portion of the case and adding links and I indicated in the history there that I was having lunch.
   — Berean Hunter (talk) 22:56, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

No matter. I still resolve that we are different people and I have no connections to other people. Please double-check, our edits were from this school and the thing is, we are in the same institution and Caker19 was a joke account a former colleague of mine created to mock my account. I hope you can understand, and see that upon closer scrutiny, you will find that we are indeed different people and we have been editing from multiple locations like home and at public locations. Thank you, I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 23:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Now would be a good time to revisit your "deleted" account and explain that for our viewing audience.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 23:31, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

It would indeed. I wrote that because the account was completely lost. I have no memory of even the username or email that I registered the account with, as it was several years ago. Thus, this one was formed. Remember how I said it was formed several years ago? Per my calculations, a couple months (that is the case for Caker19), is not several years. Please correct my math if you believe it to be faulty. Thank you, I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 00:03, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

@Berean Hunter: Would you also clarify what exactly I did wrong? I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 00:10, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Also, one more thing -> remind me, the case in question seems to have been closed by another checkuser, so what is wrong with it? I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 00:14, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Caker18, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/DeepNikita hasn't been closed yet? SQL^{Query me!} 00:24, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

SQL No I was talking of his reference to the "old account" thing. I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 01:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

SQL Berean Hunter For more evidence of my innocence, this edit by me came only ten minutes after this one by Caker19, and further because the first edit by me was reporting Caker19. Can you explain this? Also, upon research on the edits of all three users, DeepNikita, Caker19 and I, I have found that none of us have even fringed upon WP:ILLEGIT because none of the edits were bad vandalism edits. This is the least to say, as none of us are even related! Caker19 and I are friends, sure, but DeepNikita is far beyond our scope. I am not DeepNikita and until now have never heard of them. The last couple of edits Nikita made were probably good faith edits, not falling under the WP:ILLEGIT catagory. I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 01:51, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Well, Good hand, bad hand comes to mind. I'm going to decline this unblock request. -- Deepfriedokra 11:09, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra None of the edits were bad, therefore justify your use of the terminology "Good hand, bad hand" please.I'm Caker18! I edit Wikipedia sparingly. (talk) 22:20, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

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