User talk:Black Kite/Archive 73

range block

A /22 is 1024 addresses, but I see no evidence from this that the person has access to more than 2 IP addresses. --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 00:06, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I would also add that it is bizarre that the person actively asked to be range blocked. My very strong suspicion is that they are trying to disrupt somebody else's bona fide editing -- likely a logged-in user who would not show up in the IP contributions. For this reason, unless you administrators know of some considerations that I am not aware of, it would seem better to me to release the range block and block only the two identifiable IPs concerned. --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 00:17, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Ah okay, I see that the block says "anon only". I'm less bothered about it now -- but even so, I still don't think that edits from 2 IP addresses is strong evidence that they have wider access to the subnet. --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 00:29, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Obligation to pretend

Given that quote in the #2 box on you talk page I though you might get a chuckle out of this too :) TomStar81 (Talk) 12:26, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

2019

A few names that I added to the 2019 article didn't get erased when they were first typed in. Matt Campbell (talk) 01:28, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Muriel Pavlow

Didn't see any obituaries of her from other countries other than the UK. Matt Campbell (talk) 00:01, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

So it's not only just about Obituaries, or if a famous musician had a lot of hit singles or records from other countries? Matt Campbell (talk) 00:09, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Same goes for actors rights? Matt Campbell (talk) 00:17, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

So for the 2018 yearly is that why certain actors and actress are on list. For example: John Mahoney, and Scott Wilson are listed on there? Matt Campbell (talk) 00:52, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

We can only add certain athletes right, depending on the person? Matt Campbell (talk) 01:07, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

So then why is Roy Halladay listed as internationally notable if he only played for the U.S. and Canada? Matt Campbell (talk) 01:16, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok. I understand, but Mel Stottlemyre served as a player and coach, as a player he made it to the professional league, and as a coach the teams made to the world championships. And baseball isn't really played in a whole lot of countries. Matt Campbell (talk) 01:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok. I understand. I know this is off-topic but an actor by the name of Dick Miller died, he portrayed Walter Paisley in 5 different movies, and appeared in over 100 movies. Matt Campbell (talk) 01:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok. I just wanted to make sure, and also needed your opinion too. What countries do you see the obituaries from? Matt Campbell (talk) 02:06, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok. I added his name to the yearly page, and do you know if there enough to add more images? Matt Campbell (talk) 02:15, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Flickotown

Hi, please be careful, I suspect that Waskerton and Flickotown are actually one person, maybe also Wildcursive. The aggressive editing style, the language use, and the focus is very similar. Also see diff. Best, -- Tobby72 (talk) 11:51, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

ESPN International

Did you catch what I said early? They are a Worldwide, They have networks in 61 countries and territories across all seven continents. Matt Campbell (talk) 00:45, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

I said ESPN, Not BBC, and the UK isn't affiliated with them anymore. Matt Campbell (talk) 22:27, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

My mistake I wasn't being specific, I was I meant to say was that ESPN used to have operations in the UK but they don't anymore.

Also and another I forgot to mention that I don't this to turn into another edit conflict, like early on in January with Daryl Dragon, and Gene Okerlund, even though I wasn't involved in that. Then there was George Welsh, J.D. Gibbs, which that was my fault right there. Then there was Mason Lowe even though the article on him was just created. Matt Campbell (talk) 23:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

190.233.49.0/24

Hi Black Kite! I hope you're doing well. I was looking through the range blocks database report and noticed this block that you placed on this IP range - did you mean to apply an indefinite block to it? Usually, we set it to a few years out (even if it's 5+ years) just so that it expires at some point. Just wanted to message you about it and ask. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:58, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

• It's an open proxy - I'll could just knock it down to 5 years if that's standard? Black Kite (talk) 19:48, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks :)

Contaldo80 (talk) 21:50, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Hey

I'm sorry, it's like I keep running into you in the wrong places after the wrong edits. I don't do it on purpose. I really don't enjoy trouble, and wasn't looking for it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:13, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

• Hi - it's no problem, things happen :) Black Kite (talk) 11:43, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Apologies for my error. Screen problems. 331dot (talk) 11:45, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

2019

Do you know if we should add Andrew Fairlie, Fatima Ali, and Joseph Jarman? I've seen a lot of international articles on them already. Matt Campbell (talk) 05:37, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Have you seen any international articles, or obituaries on Louisa Moritz, Julius Campbell, Fatima Ali, or Harold Bradley? I've seen a few already? Matt Campbell (talk) 23:22, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Reggie Young and Bonnie Guitar died and there's were international. So how do you know if Bradley is Notable or not? Most country musicians are usually international was from what I have on other yearly articles. Matt Campbell (talk) 23:32, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok. I understand. I guess it's not really a priority right now. Matt Campbell (talk) 23:55, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Anyway in the mean time I think It might be best not to add Bradley. Matt Campbell (talk) 00:49, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

What's going on now? Make it quick because I have other stuff to do right now. I don't remember adding those names. Matt Campbell (talk) 22:10, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

My account must have been hacked. Matt Campbell (talk) 22:15, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I saw a lot of Obituaries and international news articles on Aloysius Pang. That's the only name I remember adding Matt Campbell (talk) 22:24, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Aloysius Pang

I'm assuming that you probably didn't read what I said about Aloysius Pang, I saw a lot of Obituaries and international news articles on his death. After that my account was probably hacked. And you said that when most celebrities that die in plane crashes are always notable. I'll write a discussion about it on the talk page too. Matt Campbell (talk) 06:13, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Did you see what I wrote the 2019 talk page? Matt Campbell (talk) 23:50, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Footballer

How is being a footballer related to soccer? I thought being a footballer was the same thing as football? Matt Campbell (talk) 15:35, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Ok. I get it. I thought it was completely different. That's why I changed it. Sorry about that. Matt Campbell (talk) 15:42, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

2019

I'm sure you already know this, but some other user keeps adding Gene Okerlund's image on the yearly article page, even though everyone has been told not to. Would be ok if there was another image of Gene Okerlund to use that's more appropriate than the one that keeps getting posted?

Also that was me that added Frank Robinson to the yearly article page, and his image. Sorry I didn't say anything before. Matt Campbell (talk) 00:16, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

sock

Hi Black Kite, I appreciate your assistance with an IP sock of Strgzr1 recently, who has habitually edited pages related to The Citadel and VMI. particularly dealing with sports and honor codes. It appears he hasn't given up though, and has registered an account as Slaphappy19. He has all of the same hallmarks as previous incarnations (Realsnappy18, Chasbombs, and other IPs) right down to marking nearly all of his edits as minor. Can you take a look and see if you agree, and/or provide any suggestions as to how to document and make this easier in the future? Ewen Douglas has reached the same conclusion that I have. Billcasey905 (talk) 03:19, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

I went ahead and tried a Twinkle report on sockpuppetry. It's my first, so I apologize if it's not phrased quite perfectly. Ewen Douglas (talk) 15:36, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

MilborneOne

Hi, I have been getting into a conflict lately with an admin named "MilborneOne", on the 2019 page, he keeps changing some of the info that some of the user's type in, it appears he thinks he's allowed to erase info that he thinks isn't notable. Maybe you help me talk talk some sense into him. Matt Campbell (talk) 15:49, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Slowking4

You asked me to ping you in case of new socks, but as they showed some interesting comments on an IP, I decided that it maybe is time for this. Mind having a look (it is the first time I create something like that). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 07:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome

Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

The nsmutte sock

It was Paliodurad who first added the thread at ANI; connection? ——SerialNumber54129 16:30, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

• Yeah, I realised when I actually read the bit they'd added. Ah well. Black Kite (talk) 16:31, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

• Np, I see GiantSnowman has done the necessary with all aplomb  :) take care! ——SerialNumber54129 16:34, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Notice of ANI discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Mountain157 (talk) 17:42, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

God help me, but I previeved that, and would have sworn the link was blue. Qwirkle (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

A sincere thank you

I would just like to extend my gratitude to you for fighting for neutrality and justice on Wikipedia. I refer to the recent incident with the user Mountain157 who accused me and apparently a few other users of sockpuppetry. I am aware of how these accusations have been used in the past to silence users who create edits which, despite being in neutral point of view, are against the views of the accusers. This has also regrettably been abused by users with special Wikipedia privileges.

I am not familiar with the procedure for defending my case against these baseless accusations and therefore decided not to pursue the matter further myself and hoped that sense would prevail. The facts are straight that I am not a sockpuppet. At the same time, I very much welcome any investigations into my edits and my IP address which I know will return the same answer. I am glad that you understood this and defended me and the others collectively.

Once again, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.187.69 (talk) 17:41, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

This is ridiculous. I edited Ocasio-Cortes' article to describe her as a socialist, and her policies as socialist. She has repeatedly called herself a socialist. She has repeatedly described her policies as socialist. The Wikipedia cites describe her policies as socialist. But I was punished for my edits. So be it. Meanwhile, Wikipedia editors can describe President Trump as a liar, and state that lying is a fundamental part of his politics, and that is fine. Articles about conservatives are full of criticism and derogatory rhetoric, yet accurate descriptions of a liberal like Ms. Ocasio-Cortes are reverted. I have been told that Wikipedia has a neutral point of view policy, but clearly by "neutral" you really mean "left-leaning". JohnTopShelf (talk) 13:54, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

(watching)I wish I got stroopwafels every time I upheld NPOV  ;) ——SerialNumber54129 14:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Not even NPOV. They were told the article was under 1RR, but then reverted again. Didn't have any choice there. Still, biscuits are good. Black Kite (talk) 15:12, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Minor correction at ANI

Hi. At Special:Diff/884885508, you wrote:

• 115.133.209.70 is in 175.133.0.0/16

I don't know where the typo crept in your process, but if it matters, it's actually (most specifically) in 115.133.192.0/18, which may be a DSL net. I'm don't know the history, so I don't know if the other IPs in the range are related. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 06:12, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

• Yeah, copy and paste error there. I did have 115.133.192.0/18 as the range, and I'm keeping an eye on them anyway. Black Kite (talk) 11:10, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Adding Images

Hi, for certain images does "Fair Use" mean they can't be used on other documents. Matt Campbell (talk) 18:18, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

None. I was just trying to make sure because when someone tries to use it, it gets erased from the document.

Public Domain, means that others are welcome to use them, right? Matt Campbell (talk) 19:29, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Ok. I'll keep that in mind. Also can images be to inappropriate to use for certain articles even though they are PD. Matt Campbell (talk) 19:40, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Ok. Make's sense. Matt Campbell (talk) 20:00, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

2019

I saw some non-U.S. articles on Gene Okerlund, and Harris Wofford. Matt Campbell (talk) 21:21, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Keith_Flint#Inline_sources_for_discography

Can you jump in please?--RockyMM (talk) 00:04, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

How do you do it?

Brilliant. How on earth do you find something like that? From 2013, yet? Bishonen | talk 12:50, 6 March 2019 (UTC).

• I remembered that it had something to do with the Gregorian calendar and that there'd been a discussion about it at VPT, so just searched for "Gregorian" :) Black Kite (talk) 15:26, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• Ha. Not a principle I can easily replicate, I guess. But I rather liked EEng's suggestion that the blocks might be calculated in Jupiter years. If I need to find the ANI discussion six years from now, I may remember to search for "Jupiter". Bishonen | talk 19:56, 6 March 2019 (UTC).

TurokSwe second ANI

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding TurokSwe is back at it. The thread is User:TurokSwe's issues on the Alien and Predator hasn't changed. ★Trekker (talk) 20:30, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Jules Maiorana

Hi Black Kite, I wondered if you can help add the nationality and background of footballer Giuliano Maiorana in the article please? He is currently listed as an 'English former footballer', but I've found this interview (not sourced in article), where, from what I understood he says he classes himself as Italian, his parents are from Avellino, he's never had a British passport and he wanted to play in Serie A and for the Italy national football team, yet he was born and raised and still lives in Cambridge. The start of the 'career' section simply says "Maiorana was born in Cambridge" as a sentance, wheras IP editors have removed the categories 'English people of Italian descent' and 'people of Campanian descent' from the categories.

Hope this makes sense, basically I was wondering if you can correct this article, because I don't know how best to word all this and don't make edits to biographical pages. Theo Mandela (talk) 09:04, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Black Kite, do you think you'll look at the article if you're not too busy. Let me know if you can, Theo Mandela (talk) 15:19, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

@Black Kite: I don't think the interview is really a good source, but I think it can be used because there aren't other high quality sources covering him. If we believe what he says then I'd assume he is Italian because of his passport but English because he was born in Cambridge.

Either way, could you write a sentance in with the interview as a reference and, if they're appropriate, restore the removed categories. The revision history for the article shows a lot of edit warring and vandalism. It'd be much appreciated. Theo Mandela (talk) 15:44, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks a lot Black Kite, should the interview not be used as a reference? Even though it's not great quality, just to support the change to "English-born" or show where the claim his parents are from Avellino comes from at least. Cheers, Theo Mandela (talk) 16:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Abhinandan moustache

Hello, my friend. Will you move the content over? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:24, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

•  Done. Black Kite (talk) 09:17, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Reference

@Black Kite: Thanks again for fixing the Giuliano Maiorana article, could you add a ref for the parts regarding his nationality please? I think part of the reason it kept getting removed might have been because it was unsourced. Theo Mandela (talk) 00:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

• Will do, will have a look at it tomorrow. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 00:52, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

• and  Done. Black Kite (talk) 15:35, 12 March 2019 (UTC)