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See Four Provinces Flag of Ireland and Cross-border flag for Ireland.

Notes edit

Phil Shanahan's medals for his four-in-a-row Railway Cup wins (1950–1–2–3) have an identical design except that the four provincial crests are ordered in three different ways (UCLM ULMC LUMC).[1]

The design of Irish Transport and General Workers' Union membership badges from its 1909 foundation were changed periodicallu, rotating between the arms of the four provinces, initially quarterly but later twice or once a year. The red hand of Ulster was the badge during the 1913 lockout and adopted permanently in 1919.[2]

Individual province's arms edit

G. D. Burtchaell et al (1902) explain parts in relation to the RSAI crest.[3]

Critiquing S. M. Collins on medieval v [early?] modern[4]

Ulster King of Arms c.1700 [possibly some later additions][5]

  • Connacht [p. 16 no. 10] "p pale A. & Az a demi eagle disp p pale @ & a Sinister Arm conjoyned wth it at the sholders holding a Sword Pr sleeved A";
  • Ireland Kingdom [p. 32 A] "P [^ Port~:] Jupiter an Irish harpe Sol stringed luna"; note [p. 33 A] "The ancient Armes of this kingdom were S. a King sitting crosse-legged in his throne, holding in his right hand a Lilly O."
  • Leinster [p. 42 no. 4] "Vert an Irish harp O. stringed A.";
  • Meath "county when governed by a king" [p. 46 no. 17] "Azur a King sitting on his Throne holding forth his Right hand in the sinister a Scepter all Proper"
  • Munster [p. 47 no. 3] "Az 3 eastern diadems Pr" with sketch;
  • Ulster [p. 70 no. 6] "O a lion ramp double queue G rather Argent a dexter hand couped Gules rather Or a cross Gules on an escutcheon Argent a dexter hand couped Gules" [in 3 different hands, followed by signature "@@ Ulster" in 3rd hand;

2022-4 lamppost outbreak edit

https://www.lmfm.ie/news/lmfm-news/sheridan-calls-for-clarity-after-provincial-flags-appear-in-co-louth/

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/flag-sightings-1.4817654

https://www.donegallive.ie/news/donegal-life/860498/do-you-know-what-this-flag-represents.html

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/newsletter-longfordlive/1412272/longford-county-council-to-take-action-on-illegal-flag.html

Table edit

In the following table, columns 1, 2, 3, 4 correspond to the following quarters of the shield:    

Arrangements of the arms of the four provinces used to represent all Ireland:
1 2 3 4 Division flush? Comments Instances
Connacht Leinster Munster Ulster Line No alphabetical order
Connacht Munster Leinster Ulster Quartered No Gable of Four Provinces pub, Coventry[11] and logo https://www.belgrade.co.uk/stories/welcoming-our-newest-corporate-supporters-the-four-provinces/
Line No Irish Photography Federation (Shields in lower half of circular logo. Ulster colours are white-on-red rather than red-on-yellow.)[12]
Connacht Munster Ulster Leinster Quartered Yes 1939 Cluna Studio greeting card commemorating 1916 rising commissioned by Kathleen Clarke, the Lord Mayor of Dublin[13]
No Cover of CD "A Song for Every County ; A Journey Through Ireland"[14]
Connacht Ulster Leinster Munster Quartered Yes
Saltire No Irish Shipping house flag (from 1947)[17]
Line NI republican memorial: Clonard Martyrs Memorial Garden -- flags one of three different orderings at this site
Connacht Ulster Munster Leinster Quartered Yes map order for quartering (NW — NE — SW — SE) National Coarse Fishing Federation of Ireland (Logo is a map of Ireland with the provinces delineated by their arms.)[18]
No
Leinster Connacht Munster Ulster Quartered Yes
No

An Camán 1933-12-09 p.4 "Ó Chúig Árdaibh na h-Éireann" masthead

Leinster Connacht Ulster Munster Quartered Yes John J. Kennedy in 1991 called this "usual" in RoI[32]
No
Line 1937 postage stamps commemorating the new constitution[41]
Leinster Munster Ulster Connacht Quartered Yes Craobh na hAiséirghe Christmas card for the year 1941, celebrating the 25th anniversary of the Easter Rising (simplified, monochrome).[42]
Leinster Munster Connacht Ulster Quartered No Harry Clarke title-page border to Ireland's memorial records 1914-1918[43]
Leinster Ulster Connacht Munster Quartered No NI republican memorial: Clonard Martyrs Memorial Garden -- plaque 2 one of three different orderings at this site
Saltire
Leinster Ulster Munster Connacht Quartered No
Saltire Auer Champion Japanese souvenir lighter[53]
Munster Connacht Leinster Ulster Line No
  • 1651 map of Galway (with Meath in the middle; Ulster is lion not red-hand cross)[54]
  • Cover of book Countdown to unity: debating Irish reunification (2009).[55]
Munster Connacht Ulster Leinster Quartered Yes 17th-century map of Galway (with arms of Meath in escutcheon, and De Lacy instead of De Burgo arms for Ulster).[56]
No
Line
Munster Leinster Connacht Ulster Line No
Munster Leinster Ulster Connacht Quartered No
  • DAOL (D & A O'Leary) Cork facsimile of 1916 proclamation bordered with Celtic tracery and arms in corners[62]
  • DAOL Pearce memorial card[63]
Line 1980s poster of hurlers [possibly GAA-endorsed?][64]
Munster Ulster Connacht Leinster Quartered No

Evie Hone stained glass My Four Green Fields

Munster Ulster Leinster Connacht Quartered Yes
Ulster Connacht Leinster Munster Quartered No map order for saltire (N — W — E — S) NI republican memorial: Republican Plot (Ballymacnab Graveyard)
Saltire Yes National Dental Nurse Training Programme of Ireland logo (crests rotated to orient towards centre)[67]
No
  • Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland badge, designed by John Vinycomb[68]
  • Conradh na Gaeilge (former[69])
  • London Irish Bowling Association badge (escutcheoned on the four bars of a cross)[70]
  • Angling Council of Ireland[71]
  • Irish Federation Of Sea Anglers[72]
  • Irish Clay Pigeon Shooting Association[73]
  • Irish Indoor Bowling Association (escutcheoned on the four bars of a cross)[74]
  • Irish Coastal Rowing Federation[75]
  • Schoolboys Football Association of Ireland (overlapping circular crests)[76] matches the 1930s FAIFS/FAI crest[77]
  • Gormanstown Camp Republican Civil War internees' certificates (1923; fanciful hand-colouring of mimeographed template)[39]
  • Independence War IRA prisoners' fund badge[78]
  • 1925 GAA "Inter Provincial Football Competition" medal (a special fundraising competition won by Galway)[79]
  • New York GAA Minor Board (stylised crests: Ulster hand unrecognisable, Connacht gold instead of blue)[80]
  • Conradh na Gaeilge 1912 Christmas card[81]
  • Irish Society for Christian Civilisation [82]
  • 1938 Brown & Nolan "Ár dTír Féin" copybook cover[83]
  • Crest on referee's jersey worn by Willie Barrett; a file photo used in a 2019 article, perhaps taken decades earlier.[84]
  • 2020 Irish cyclocross championship medal[85]
Ulster Connacht Munster Leinster Quartered Yes Former crest of SJAI (Show Jumping Association of Ireland — now Showjumping Ireland (SJI) with different logo). Stylised Ulster and slightly altered Connacht arms.[86]
No
Ulster Leinster Connacht Munster Quartered Yes
No
Saltire Former FAI logo (four overlapping roundels),[94] as still seen on the FAI Cup trophy.[95]
Line Commemorative postcard and poster for 1932 Eucharistic Congress (In a crescent with St Patrick's Saltire in the middle)[96][97]
Ulster Leinster Munster Connacht Quartered Yes
No
Saltire
  • Irish Club, London (19th Century; all shield bar Connacht's oriented to the centre)[104]
  • Title page of Romantic Ireland (1905) by Milburg Francisco Mansfield & Blanche McManus (Boston: L.C. Page)
Line IRA memorial board at Ardilea Close, Belfast (in site 2013-2014 at minimum)[105]
Ulster Munster Connacht Leinster Quartered Yes
  • Association of Municipal Authorities of Ireland arms[106]
  • Irish Amateur Third-Level Boxing Association[107]
No
Line c.1900 Harry Clarke stained-glass panel of The Four Provinces of Ireland[113]
Ulster Munster Leinster Connacht Quartered Yes McLysaght in 1949 described "Ulster, Munster, Leinster and Connacht" as "the stock phrase of our school days".[34]
No
  • 1899 Illuminated address presented to Thomas J. Clarke before his emigration to America
  • 1900 Frontispiece of ATLAS AND CYCLOPEDIA OF IRELAND
  • 1905–17 JaJa Postcard series, Stoddart & Co.[128]
  • 1921 Ballykinlar Camp autograph book hand-drawn cover[129]
  • 1934 Irish Independent GAA Golden Jubilee publication
  • 1987 "[Front Cover]" (PDF). The Irish Counties Journal. London: 1. Summer 1987. Retrieved 7 June 2020.
  • NI republican memorials:
Line

Killester Garden Village book cover has UMLC Saltire

Unattested orderings edit

  • CLUM

Uncentred circle edit

Where the arms appear on four sides of a monument there may be no "front" of the monument. The possible orderings depend on fixing, say, Connacht and proceeding clockwise.

Nonstandard arms edit

  • 17th-century map of Galway (with arms of Meath in escutcheon, and De Lacy instead of De Burgo arms for Ulster).[56] Linearly at at Mu-C-Me-L-U; Quarterly Mu-C-U-L with Me escutcheon;[56] perhaps the "standard" conversion of linearly to quarterly is clockwise nw-ne-se-sw rather than readingwise nw-ne-sw-se?

[56]

Dublin for Leinster, Galway for Connacht edit

Francis Joseph Bigger's 1912 article "The Arms and Flags of Ireland" rejects the received Connacht arms as an ugly British imposition unknown in Connacht; he also rejects the Leinster arms because those conflict with the arms of Ireland (he rejects Saint Patrick's Blue as a "fake colour"). Thus he adopts the Galway and Dublin symbols which he interprets as Gaelic. Long version also says Ulster has white not yellow field.[138]

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