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Questioning deletion of MeatGull

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MeatGull is a fictional character. It is apparent that the page is not truth. Would I have to put some kind of disclaimer saying its a fictional animal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MeatGull (talk • contribs) 04:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. If you are writing a page on something fictional make sure you describe it in a real world context (e.g. MeatGull is a fictional character from the [book/show/comic/ect.], that is a popular image in [culture].). I would recommend that you do not recreate the page, however. As well as requiring an encyclopedic tone articles are also required to meet a certain standard of notability, which (based on a quick Google search) MeatGull is nowhere close to meeting. Wikipedia is not the right place for your fictional creature but if you would like a copy of the article in case you wish to use it elsewhere, I can provide. Icewedge (talk) 00:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

So your basically saying unless its famous already don't bother? How is something suppose to gain notability if it is never given the chance? Is Wikipedia not into informing and expanding the knowledge of one's mind(how ever pointless that knowledge may be)? Say I redid the page with a encyclopedic tone and clearly stated that the Meatgull is not a real animal. Would it still be up for grounds for removal? MeatGull (talk) 01:01, 3 May 2009 (CST)

Unfortunately, yes. Wikipedia is not the place to go to make something notable. If you want somewhere to host the article you could try http://www.mywikibiz.com Icewedge (talk) 18:49, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

haha thank you very much I will put it on there. I will be back one day. It will be famous...you'll see...you'll see. MeatGull (talk) 16:26, 3 May 2009

Proposed deletion of (Lil) Green Patch

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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article (Lil) Green Patch, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Apparently non-notable, no independent references and "sister" articles are up for deletion

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Deb (talk) 15:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, sorry. I'm not sure how I missed that. Deb (talk) 22:37, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Its OK. Facebook app's are almost always entirely non-notable so I can understand the reasoning. L'GP does have a tenuous hold on notability, but I do think it merits inclusion. Icewedge (talk) 22:51, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

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Thank you for the advice on how to straighten out the technical glitch that messed up the John L. Stevens page. I've never had that happen before. I'm still trying to figure out if I did something to cause the problem. In any case, I will give it a 'go' at trying to paste in what I had done. Many thanks for taking the time to help me with it. Happy new year to you and yours. Best regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Many, many thanks for all your help!MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for restoring the content, and more importantly for letting me know what my error was, so I will be more careful in the future. All best to you. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem, glad to help. Icewedge (talk) 00:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Notice of request for deletion of editor Icewedge :)

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  Icewedge, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#Icewedge and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :).--Giants58 19:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

So you support my RFA then request my deletion? I see how it is... Icewedge (talk) 06:44, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Appreciated

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I just wanted to say thank-you for helping process my CSD U1 deletion requests earlier on today, and offer all the best for the future. Thanks and farewell! — digitaleon • talk @ 20:08, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome. I am sorry to see that you are leaving, but if it can't be helped, good bye and good luck! Icewedge (talk) 03:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
My thanks to you for saying so (both here and on my user talk). May life treat you well also. — digitaleon • talk @ 18:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Paul Hofmann

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  On January 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Paul Hofmann, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Keep up the good work! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Chatanika gold dredge (Fairbanks)

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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Chatanika gold dredge (Fairbanks), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

No sources or other evidence of notability.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Raven1977Talk to meMy edits 19:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

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Delivered by The Helpful One for Garden and iMatthew at 00:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Cookie!

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RE: Sudden wikibreak

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Hello Icewedge. Thank you for noticing I left. =) I do wikipedia in spirts. I'll do about 10,000 edits or so and leave for awhile..around a year usually. =) I love Wikipedia has been around long enough for me to say something like that. haha. --mboverload@ 06:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Notability

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You removed the speedy-delete tag from the Taylor York article, stating "remove speedy deletion tag, being part of a blue-linked band is an assertion of notability". This is not a valid justification. Notability is not inherited. Please see WP:N and, in this specific case, WP:MUSIC as well. If that justification were valid, it would mean, for example, that anyone who attends a blue-linked high school is notable, which is obviously not the case. Truthanado (talk) 12:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

That analogy is fallacious. A high school student is a child entity whereas a band member is a parent entity. The relationship between a High School and its students is entirely different than a band and its members, a notable band is an exclusive group that requires some level of achievement to be a part in and its members will almost always have some degree of fame, whereas the student body at a high school is very inclusive and it takes nothing special to be a member. A more correct comparison would be band is to fan as school is to students, which says nothing about the case in question.
About WP:NOTINHERITED, if the subject has contributed or participated in the notability of its cousin that confers a degree of notability, coincidental relationships where the subject has not contributed to the notability of its cousin. Barack Obama's relatives have had very little to do with his success and they share little other than a coincidental relationship, but as a co-founder of Apple and a major contributor its success Steve Wozniak is notable. Consider, rewards or prizes, for instance. Awards most certainly count for notability; the receiver of the award receives some notability from the fact that the award is notable.
WP:NOTINHERITED even acknowledges this: "That is not to say that this is always the case ... two of the notability guidelines, for books and music, do allow for inherited notability".
Anyways, I was not saying that the article is/was definitely notable and your redirecting of the article seems a decent move, but there is no way that the musician met CSD A7. If being part of a famous group is not a reasonable indication that the subject might be notable, I don't know what is. Icewedge (talk) 02:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Adoption

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Hello!

I'm a new user who helps to contribbute with the Ancient Egypt Portal, so I was thinking if you could help me, and maybe "adopt" me could be a good way.

Thanks, --SamaraDyva (talk) 09:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I think there might be better matches; you seem to be here to contribute solely to Egypt related articles and have some qualifications in that area, whearas I do work for WikiProject Ancient Egypt only rarely and have no relevant qualifications, but if you want me I would be happy to "adopt" you. Icewedge (talk) 03:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, even if you're not adopting me, I'd still like to ask a few questions, since you're also in the Ancient Egypt Portal. Well, I'd like to merge the articles about ninth and tenth dynasties, since they're almost the same thing. How do I do that?

Thanks, --SamaraDyva (talk) 09:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure if I agree with your merger proposition, while there is significant overlap between the 9th and 10th dynasties they do not appear to be directly the same and are often referred to independently. However, if you do wish to pursue a merger you can get the process started by creating a discussion on the talk page of either of the two articles and then tagging both of the articles with the template
{{merge|:OTHERPAGE|Talk:MERGE_PROPOSAL_PAGE</nowiki>#MERGER_PROPOSAL_TITLE|{{subst:DATE}}}} replacing
OTHERPAGE with the title of the other page that you are proposing for merger,
MERGE_PROPOSAL_PAGE with the title of the where you created the discussion, and
MERGER_PROPOSAL_TITLE with the section heading of the merge discussion you created
Then you can list the pages at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. For the full guide to executing a merge, seeHelp:Merging and moving pages#How to merge pages. Icewedge (talk) 03:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Test

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Oops, I completely forgot to remove that. We were checking to make sure that {{prod}} works in the File space now without throwing up a huge warning. Thanks, you were fine. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

>_<

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Um...you better update your status on the list of open Adopters page, cause I'm not blocked, but also I HAD QUIT ALREADY! I am now seeking a new Adopter, and I noticed your name somehow. Sincerly, your ex-Adoptee, Sneaky Oviraptor18talk edits tribute 19:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Icewedge (talk) 01:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello!

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I am here about to reply on File:4chan raid.pdf wich is a document documenting the planning and not the involvement of the /b/ raid on the date of featured 4chan article. --Mixwell!Talk 01:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Its is extremely worrying that after receiving a bot warning for no FUR you changed the license first to PD-US and then to GNU, both of which are invalid. 4chan is © all rights reserved. Icewedge (talk) 01:59, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello

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Thank you for your opinion on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Mixwell. I have decided that it's too early for it. I closed it by WP:Snow. Thanks! --Mixwell!Talk 03:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter

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17:29, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

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Synchronism (talk) 05:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem :) Icewedge (talk) 06:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

User back to vandalising

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User:24.18.4.36 is back to no good I'm afraid. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I have blocked for two weeks as the IP was back only hours after block expiration. I am not that active though so if there is a next time I would recommend WP:AIV. Icewedge (talk) 00:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Sincerest Apologies

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I'm sorry for me creating Wikipedia pages to mess around. My friend gave me 50 bucks to make one.(NO JOKE) I have sincerst apologies considering you were the user to delete my contributions. Please accept my apologies. Thanks and Sincerest Apologies, Wikimania34 —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiMania34 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Apology accepted, it was not big problem though, just don't do it again please. Hope to see you around sometime, if you need any help don't hesitate to ask me :) Icewedge (talk) 06:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

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  Thank you for the barnstar, much appreciated! – ukexpat (talk) 03:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Your very welcome :) Icewedge (talk) 05:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Company names

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Hi! Someone else had tagged them as implausible redirects and I went along with it but now that you mention it, the articles should have been moved to the full names of the companies and the "shorty" titles made into redirects. Good call. I've made those kinds of moves before and I don't know why I didn't think of it.--PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:25, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Its all good, I imagine when you do as much work as you do a few things slip by. No real problem, I really only queried you on your user-talk as -Zeus- (talk · contribs), the one who tagged the pages for R3 three in the first place, was claiming that "redirects with inc, corp, etc are being deleted, because they are not part of wikipedia policy" and I wanted to see if there was something I had missed. Anyways, it all seems to be sorted out now. See you around :) Icewedge (talk) 07:36, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Your recent block-user: Youstinklmao

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Stop the block, I have spoken to the user. HE/she acknowledges his/her mistakes.Dance-pop (talk) 04:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I am not seeing that. Where? Icewedge (talk) 07:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

RFA

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Hi Icewedge, Many thanks for your support in my RFA, and for your participation in my first one. There's a full glitzy Oscar style version of my acceptance speech here. WereSpielChequers 20:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

CSD deletion of WP:Extravagance

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Hi, thanks for doing this and the talk page related to it. I'm an experienced editor and find it very amusing that this redirect existed for so long! :) Cheers! fr33kman -s- 04:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes things like that go unnoticed for a long time. Nice catch. Icewedge (talk) 23:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

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Thanks for getting my page deleted. --♪♫The New Mikemoraltalkcontribs 00:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC) So for you:

 

You, Icewedge, have just been awarded The New Mikemoral's generic barnstar in miniature. You can earn this award too for other generic things, just like Icewedge did.

No problem. Thanks for the star :)! Icewedge (talk) 03:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Meatpuppetry

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Thanks for the heads up, it looks like we'll need some admin intervention rather than good 'ol fashion WP:BRD. Madcoverboy (talk) 13:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timothy Morss and Brett Tyler

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Hi Icewedge. I notice you closed the AfD early. We have recently changed the guidelines on AfD so that discussions go for at least seven days unless criteria in Wikipedia:Speedy keep or Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion are met. Timothy Morss and Brett Tyler doesn't meet the criteria in either of those guidelines. The only reason given in the discussion was that the article didn't meet WP:BLP1E; however it is made clear in the article, and supported by reliable sources, that notability comes from both media coverage of their crime in 1996, and the notable reversal of the 50-year tariffs in 2002. There is certainly room for extended discussion on this matter, and a more considered decision on how to deal with the article. It may, for example, be possible to merge the article into one on 50-year tariffs - or to keep Timothy Morss and Brett Tyler as supplying information of historic and social interest. Would you consider restoring the AfD and allowing it to run for the full seven days? Regards SilkTork *YES! 07:27, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I personally feel that AFD's need run only until consensus is established, which it certainly appeared to have been, however, I guess this means it wasn't. I have restored article and re-listed under today's date. Sorry I took so long to respond to this message, I completely missed it, oops. Icewedge (talk) 06:53, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that Ice. And, yes, though I don't always comment on AfDs that I have asked to be re-opened, I felt this one deserved a comment as there has been a misreading of One Event in terms of this particular article. I understand your comment about your personal feelings regarding the length of AfDs. There are various aspects of Wikipedia that I don't agree with. I dislike InfoBoxes in the lead section, for example; but after a couple of vain attempts to get a consensus on images being primary in the lead, I have accepted that InfoBoxes in the lead are here to stay! So be it! Regards SilkTork *YES! 07:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of (Lil) Green Patch

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I have nominated (Lil) Green Patch, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/(Lil) Green Patch. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Darrenhusted (talk) 14:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/BQZip01 4

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Thank you for the support. — BQZip01 — talk 06:13, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support

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 Unfortunately, my RFA was closed recently with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to Schmidt, MICHAEL Q., TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 — talk
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