Template talk:Olympic Channel

Nomination for merger of Template:Olympic Channel

Template:Olympic Channel has been nominated for merging with Template:IOC profile. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. VLaiquendi (talk) 17:17, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 2 May 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no action (moved to TfD, which is a more appropriate venue for the intended changes; no action taken here, see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 May 6 § Template:Olympic Channel) (non-admin closure) Elli (talk | contribs) 08:03, 7 May 2021 (UTC) Elli (talk | contribs) 08:03, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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Template:Olympic Channel → Template:Olympics.com profile – On 29th of April 2021 www.olympicchannel.com has been completely merged into a new IOC platform/web-site Olympics.com. New platform is the successor of the old one and is the platform to host all the athletes database. Old www.olympicchannel.com links redirect to olympics.com. VLaiquendi (talk) 17:04, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Template:Olympic Channel as well as Template:IOC profile now both display external links from Olympics.com. The two should be merged and replaced with the proposed Template:Olympics.com. 162 etc. (talk) 18:42, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
• Comment These two templates are very similar and I agree that eventually they should be merged but the problem is Olympics.com uses Olympics.com athlete ID (P5815) from Olympic Channel database (now Olympics.com athletes database (Q56411957)) and not Olympic.org athlete ID (archived) (P3171) from Olympics.org athletes database (Q28796597). In 99% cases they are the same but not always. Take a look at Michael_Phelps for example. He has "michael-phelps" as an Olympic.org athlete ID (archived) (P3171) and "michael-phelps-ii" as an Olympics.com athlete ID (P5815). My idea was to rename Template:Olympic Channel to Template:Olympics.com first and then start thinking about Template:IOC profile. Would be happy though if there's a way to overcome this problem and merge them all together once and for all. VLaiquendi (talk) 09:39, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I would say these two databases are redundant. In your example of Michael Phelps, clicking on either the Olympic Channel or IOC profile link results in this URL being displayed. 162 etc. (talk) 15:30, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

They are because right redirects are made at the respective websites for both of them. Problem is if we change IOC profile template the resulting URL with the current ID will be this URL and will result in error 404. So some of the current athletes pages will have broken links with their current IOC athletes IDs. Any ideas on how to resolve this or it's not an issue? VLaiquendi (talk) 16:07, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

That's not something I'm familiar with. This issue is probably best discussed at WP:TFD rather than an RM. 162 etc. (talk) 17:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! WP:TFD says: "On this page, the deletion or merging of templates and modules, except as noted below, is discussed. To propose the renaming of a template or templates, use Wikipedia:Requested moves." Wouldn't it be easier if we rename Template:Olympic Channel to Template:Olympics.com profile first as they are definitely the same thing and then raise a more thorough and complex discussion at WP:TFD? VLaiquendi (talk) 07:28, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Renaming Template:Olympic Channel just to have it later merged with Template:IOC profile is adding a lot of extra work for nothing. The name of the template is not displayed on a wiki page, it's only seen in the code. I've edited the template to use "Olympics.com" as the output text, I think this is a good step in the meantime. Ultimately, I think this template should disappear altogether (because of the existence of the redundant Template:IOC profile), but again, that's not something to discuss in RM. 162 etc. (talk) 16:29, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! That helps but partially. Could you also amend the link from https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/athletes/detail/ to https://olympics.com/en/athletes/? If yes, I would close the discussion and raise a new one in WP:TFD as suggested. Thanks! VLaiquendi (talk) 16:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

As for the redundancy of Template:IOC profile it cannot be really used for future articles as it has olympics.org links and the code there cannot be easily renamed to olympics.com because IDs do not correspond to what is being used at olympics.com website. Hope that makes sense! VLaiquendi (talk) 16:54, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

As far as I can see, I can do these corrections myself. I'll do then. Thanks for your help! VLaiquendi (talk) 16:59, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Got it, thanks for your help! VLaiquendi (talk) 17:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

I've made the suggested changes. Good luck with the rest. 162 etc. (talk) 17:03, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.