- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 17:00, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
The Voice UK
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that The Voice UK, which is to begin airing on 24 March 2012, has been described as a "feel good show" by presenter Holly Willoughby (pictured), and that it will make The X Factor a "thing of the past"?
Created/expanded by MayhemMario (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- I am visiting this nomination following a talk page request. Is the image included on this page here for my enjoyment or is it in some way related to the nomination?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- The article is a 5x expansion from March 14 according to the tool making it a bit late. However, judging from March 17 it is still 5x. This nomination is not a 5x expansion from March 22. Please move nomination to March 17.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:36, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- March 24 date confirmed, "Feel good" description confirmed, BBC confirmed, X Factor prediction confirmed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:04, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- Revise hook to clarify image relevance or remove image.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:04, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hi thanks for this! The image is there as it is a picture of the presenter (Holly Willoughby), Willoughby is infact the person who stated that The Voice was a "feel good show". MayhemMario 16:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- The picture looks lovely, but the hook should include her name followed by (pictured) if you want the picture to be used.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- The hook is now 274 characters and it is suppose to be less than 200.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- Better? MayhemMario 16:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- 219.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, how can I see whether or not it is below? I have further cut it. MayhemMario 17:07, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- 210. I use Microsoft word starting after the ellipses and going to the question mark.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, how can I see whether or not it is below? I have further cut it. MayhemMario 17:07, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- 219.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- Better? MayhemMario 16:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- The hook is now 274 characters and it is suppose to be less than 200.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- The picture looks lovely, but the hook should include her name followed by (pictured) if you want the picture to be used.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
199! WOO! :P MayhemMario 17:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- 197. MayhemMario 17:48, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
198.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:07, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
As I said on WT:DYK, I'm a little concerned that this hook is promotional, something Wikipedia is not. Harrias talk 22:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- How is it extraordinary that the presenter of a new program thinks the program she is presenting will be good? Self-praise might be life-affirming but it's not really worth of a DYK hook. - Dravecky (talk) 11:23, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that The Voice UK presenter Holly Willoughby (pictured) reportedly cries more than the contestants on the show?
ALT2... that singer Bruce Dickinson declined a role on The Voice UK?- Go with the first ALT1, the Holly one. — M.Mario (T/C) 12:10, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- I Concur.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:03, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Great! Can it be moved to the front of the queue then? — M.Mario (T/C) 14:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Note: I just struck out the original hook and ALT2 to prevent later confusion, since they aren't going to be used, and removed the extraneous question mark and comma characters from within ALT1, while adding a space after the ellipsis. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:55, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Great! Can it be moved to the front of the queue then? — M.Mario (T/C) 14:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- I Concur.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:03, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- I started to read this article, and I found it to be kind of rough. Here are a few examples of sentences that I found problematic:
- [In the lead]: "It began airing in March 2012 and will last eleven weeks, which is to be contested by aspiring singers drawn from public auditions." (What does "which is" refer to? Are the singers going to contest the duration of eleven weeks?)
- [In the lead]: "In 2011, following its success in the United States, speculation mounted on whether a UK version would be made ..." What does the "it" refer to?
- [In "Scheduling"]: "Speculated in February, the shows air date was confirmed on 10 March 2012." What was speculated in February? How is this encyclopedic wording? Should there be an apostrophe here?
- [In "Scheduling"}: "In an exclusive interview with Digital Spy, Simon Cowell stated..." Why does the encyclopedia need to say that this was an "exclusive" interview? That wording makes this read like an advertisement for Digital Spy. --Orlady (talk) 14:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)