Template:Did you know nominations/Mahdi Abu Deeb

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:10, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Mahdi Abu Deeb

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... that Mahdi Abu Deeb (pictured) was arrested, allegedly tortured, and sentenced to 10 years in prison due to his role in the 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising?

Comment: I have less than 5 DYK credit

Created/expanded by Bahraini Activist (talk), Khazar2 (talk). Nominated by Bahraini Activist (talk) at 09:05, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

The article was new when nominated and long enough (3,750 characters when nominated, 7,706 now). At the moment of nomination, the nominator did not have more than 5 credits. I am concerned if this article meets certain wikipedia policies and started a couple of treads on the article's talk page about it. I will continue with this review after getting some feedback on my concerns. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:00, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. I have responded in the article's talk page. Mohamed CJ (talk) 11:28, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes you did. Thanks for your reply. Since this is BLP I propose to "take particular care" and wait for opinion of more, preferrably uninvolved, users if possible.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:47, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Since my concernes are adressed on the talk article's talk page I will continue my review.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

The hook is not to long (151 characters) and meets formating guidelines. The hook assertion is not directly supported with an inline citation in the article.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:50, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes it's not directly supported due to being in the into, but this is understood from a number of sources included in the article:

"Teachers arrested for striking in Bahrain", " detained solely for exercising their legitimate rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly as leading members of the BTA" Amnesty.
"Their strong role in support of the uprising led to a crackdown where both teachers and teachers’ unionists became subjected to arbitrary arrests, military prosecution, torture, suspensions, salary cuts, and investigation." BCHR.
"The harassment is a direct result of many teachers joining the pro-democracy movement", "The crackdown has seen many teachers and teacher trade unionists being harassed; arrested; tortured or suspended .. for taking part in pro-reform demonstrations" Education International. Mohamed CJ (talk) 07:16, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

I was concerned that the hook assertion might be seen as a result of the Synthesis of published material. On second thought and after you presented this sources I guess it is more the case of sky is blue. Thanks for your explanation.

The article is within the policy ~~(a minor concern about neutrality of one secion will probably be resolved soon)~~.

I do not have much experiance with licencing, but I am uncertain about the free use of this image and therefore I will have to ask for someone's opinion about it. The uploader of the image stated that the author is Maryam Abu Deeb. Since there is no OTRS ticket presented I am not sure if this image is free.

--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:12, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

The image was provided by Deeb's daughter after contacting her via Twitter. Here's the link for the chat if anyone is interested. I will still ask her to send a declaration e-mail to Wikipedia. Mohamed CJ (talk) 06:59, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

She sent it to you via email, right? Forward that email to OTRS (if you don't mind divulging the email address) if she made a declaration in the email Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:20, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Good to go without the image (unless appropriate OTRS ticket is provided in the meantime), AGF for sources on Arab language.

A note:Since this is BLP it would be good that user who will promote this nomination to the prep area check again my concerns: (Notability, Victimisation and potential Synth in the hook). This is very sensitive issue and there is a hearing at the Supreme Court of Appeal scheduled for 2 May so there is a point to be extra careful. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:44, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I didn't get a reply from her. Is the OTRS ticket a must for the picture to be featured on the main page? If so then I don't mind if it's not included. Mohamed CJ (talk) 13:02, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

This users says it is a must. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:06, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

QPQ is required, as Bahraini Activist has 5 DYK credits, with a 6th credit just about to be received for an even older nomination. See Template:Did you know nominations/Prisons in Bahrain. 19:35, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

At the moment of nomination he didn't have 5 DYK credits.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:13, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Correct. I suggest you refer to the discussion at Template:Did you know nominations/Prisons in Bahrain, though. Schwede 66 21:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

I checked the discussion you pointed at. Based on that discussion and Eligibility criteria the nominator is "strongly encouraged" to review another nomination. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:57, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Again, using common sense to approve the hook (without the image) let's not dissuade people from taking part by making them do things that are only "encouraged". Harrias ^talk 11:46, 6 May 2012 (UTC)