Template:Did you know nominations/Camden County Police Department

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 20:19, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Camden County Police Department edit

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... that the Camden County Police Department was created to become the primary law enforcement agency in Camden, New Jersey when the city's police department was disbanded?

Reviewed: Camden Police Department (New Jersey)

Created by Accurizer (talk). Self nominated at 03:39, 22 June 2013 (UTC).

ALT1: ... that the newly formed Camden County Police Department uses a mobile observation platform, enabling an officer to oversee an area that would normally require five officers? Accurizer (talk) 22:36, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

This is not a review, but I'm confused why the old article of Camden Police Department (New Jersey) and the one you created as Camden County Police Department should be two separate articles, rather than the content merged as one. To the average reader, these two articles are indistinguishable except for a fine line that might only be understood by the bureacrats in Camden itself. Even the content of the infoboxes are very similar in content. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by you "reviewed" Camden Police Department (New Jersey). That article does not look like it ever had a DYK nomination. That's what "reviewed" means in that slot - that you reviewed another DYK nom. But since the DYK check doesn't show you with any previous DYK noms, you are exempt from having to do a QPQ. — Maile (talk) 14:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- Firstly, sorry about my erroneous usage of the "reviewed" line. I struck it. My rationale for a new article was that they are different organizations at different levels of government and with different jurisdictional boundaries. The city police force was dissolved with some controversy, which I've attempted to address in the new article from available sources. Two other sections are also new, which have no relationship to the old organization. Elements of the infobox and the crime section were carried over from the city police article because they apply to the new organization as well as the old, but much of the old article is not applicable to the new county-level department. I hope this addresses your questions. Thanks, Accurizer (talk) 22:12, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

My knowledge of law enforcement bureaucracy is limited. But I understand what you mean, I think. There are editors at DYK who are more in tune with such things, so it's good to have your explanation here. Might save a lot of time in a review. — Maile (talk) 23:04, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Needs a full review. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:27, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

When I went to review this, I ended up doing some online research and editing the article somewhat extensively based on what I found. The main thing I learned is that the creation of the new county police department is saving a bundle of money because it eliminates a labor union contract. (Now the article makes a lot more sense to me.) As a result of my work on the article, I've added my name to the credits. I'm no longer eligible to review this, but I'll add some comments, anyway. The original hook is uninteresting. ALT1 is verified and somewhat more interesting, but I think it could be made more interesting by incorporating some different details:

ALT1a... that the Camden County Police Department has a mobile observation platform that lifts an officer 35 feet (11 m) in the air to oversee an area that would normally require five officers?

I also have drafted two new ALT hooks:

ALT2 ... that the newly formed Camden County Police Department in New Jersey serves only the city of Camden and not the rest of the county?
ALT3 ... that the formation of the Camden County Police Department in New Jersey has been criticized as "union-busting"? --Orlady (talk) 19:23, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

The article is long enough and was new enough when nominated, and it clear the copyvio check. Hooks ALT2 and ALT3 seem the most eye-catching. The content seems to be well-sourced, as are the hooks. I support it. Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 13:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Let's pick ALT3 then. Drmies (talk) 19:08, 31 July 2013 (UTC)