Talk:Zone occupée

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This article appears to be named after the French term for this area, not the English one. Could we please try to apply WP:ENGLISH here? Thanks, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 14:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Peacemaker67 I suggest that the text is merged into the older article German military administration in occupied France during World War II and this page is redirected there until someone gets around to writing an article on other occupations such as Wellington's command of an army of occupation after the Waterloo Campaign. -- PBS (talk) 12:51, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Disagree with the merger. Military occupations of France shows there is no central article about occupied France in WWII (the same problem as for WWII France in general, see France during World War II). Effort should be concentrated on improving the existing articles (Zone occupée, Zone libre, Belgium&N.France, etc.) by generating content before eventually merging them (on the name issue "zone occupee" is commonly used by English quality sources to refer to it). ^walk victor falk ^talk 02:56, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

• Support Wikipedia articles should use the common English language name and not the foreign language title. I prefer "Occupied France", which is the common English name and currently is a redirect Military occupations of France. If that doesn't work then it should be "Occupied France (WW II)", or "Nazi Germany Occupation of France". JOJ ^Hutton 13:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Over the last few weeks I've doing a lot of editing of WWII France articles to sort them out. Getting familiar with the military occupations of France has convinced me there are good reasons for not choosing an obvious common name like occupied France. ^walk victor falk ^talk 15:29, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

@Peacemaker67, Jojhutton and victor falk I propose that the current article German military administration in occupied France during World War II is moved back to its older name of German occupation of France during World War II and that this article Zone occupée is merged into it. -- PBS (talk) 19:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

I think it's a bad idea. "Zone occupee" refers specifically to the north zone (in contrast to zone libre), while the military administration in France was responsible for both the zone nord and the zone sud after 1942 when they were both occupied. ^walk victor falk ^talk 09:38, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Then if the article shouldn't be merged with the other it should at least use the common English language name. Although I suspect that both articles should be merged into the larger articles.--JOJ ^Hutton 12:03, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

It is a widely used wp:commonname in English sources referring to the area. The best way to provide the reader with an overview of the WWII occupation of France would be to develop Military occupation of France into a WP:DABCONCEPT article. See also Talk:France_during_World_War_II#Article_or_not.3F ^walk victor falk ^talk 04:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Strike that. The discussion on military occupations' talk page is not going in a positive direction. In the militärverwaltung article, Axis occupation of France has been suggested; though I think great care should be taken on exactly how to proceed (I say that as the one that floated the proposal). ^walk victor falk ^talk 13:02, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Zone occupée is not a common name in English! See Talk:German military administration in occupied France during World War II#Requested move. The name Military occupation of France is not suitable as there are other occupations at other times. -- PBS (talk) 12:16, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Redirect

I've decided to redirect this page to German_military_administration_in_occupied_France_during_World_War_II#Occupation_zones, as it is entirely redundant to both that article and zone libre. While zone libre has the potential to treat aspects that don't belong in either the German military administration article or Vichy France (considering it was both the government of the de facto country in the free zone and the collaboration government of the occupied zones), everything in zone occupée will by definition be within the scope of the military administration. ^walk victor falk ^talk 08:06, 21 June 2014 (UTC)