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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 December 2022

In a genuine accordance to the Yazidi people the ethnicity of Yazidis is the Yazidi Ethnicity. It's strange to see terms mistakenly describe Yazidi Ethnicity. Nonetheless, none can be Yazidi unless had born from a Yazidi father and mother. The below references will elaborate even more, accordingly. Furthermore, the Yazidis see themselves as their own ethnicity "Yazidi Ethnicity" ( Boscolo, 2019).

In conclusion, I highly recommend to use Yazidi Ethnicity that describes Yazidi people in the best way and shape.

References: 1. Boscolo B. S., 2019, Het vergeten volk. 2. https://phoenixtour.org/blog/yazidis-in-armenia/ 3.https://www.culturalsurvival.org/publications/cultural-survival-quarterly/conditional-coexistenceyezidi-armenia. 88.128.88.85 (talk) 14:31, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:10, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

We're Kurds. We just refer to ourselves as Eizidi so we won't get confused with Islamic Kurds. Same with Alevi Kurds, who just call themselves Alevi. It's not an ethnicity, it's our religion. When speaking specific about us, because our religion is so different, we prefer to be called Eizidi so no one confuses us with Islamic Kurds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.241.118.122 (talk) 11:05, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you another person who knows the truth. The land came before the people. The Kurdish land has been there for thousands of years everyone in those regions occupied by us were called Kurds. It wasn’t Untill the height of Islamic imperialism that this changes and not only were Kurdish people broken into sub-sects the older tribes such as the ezidis were divided also. SabriSlaemanIbrahim (talk) 15:06, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 July 2023

The last cite in the article uses the Template:Cite newsgroup template. Please replace it with Template:Cite news. 93.72.49.123 (talk) 05:44, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Xan747 (talk) 15:30, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

The miraculous persecution of people who didn't yet exist

The lead says Since the spread of Islam began with the early Muslim conquests of the 7th–8th centuries, Yazidis have faced persecution by Arabs and later by Turks .... The History section begins Yezidism emerged in the 12th century .... So Muslims began persecuting Yazidis four or five centuries before the existence of any Yazidis that they could persecute.

Can someone figure out what the article should be telling us instead of presenting us with this absurdity? Largoplazo (talk) 22:48, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Yezidi Not Yazidi

I don’t know who believe they had the right to change the name of a whole religion. As a Yezidi born in Syria and having spent most of my life in the United States. I don’t agree with this. And majority of Yezidis are not okay with this either. Our Name needs to be changed back to its Original form. This is a disgrace to my people. Change our name back! SabriSlaemanIbrahim (talk) 15:03, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

You shouldn't be offended by one letter. Nonetheless, the name has been chosen out of COMMONNAME. Semsûrî (talk) 15:38, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

How do you arrive at the idea that this is a matter of grave ethnic affront rather than a boring matter of consistently following a particular phonetic convention? Are you certain it wasn't that different Yazidis came up with disparate ways to write their name for themselves in English when they, individually, had occasion to? At worst, maybe it's just an innocent mistake by some who transcribed it from another language long after there had already been an established spelling in English.

Regardless of how it is spelled here or should be spelled here, the one certainty is that it should be written consistently throughout the article and in the same manner it's written in the article's title. So, the pertinent question is what the title should be. If you believe it should be moved to "Yezidis", then you're welcome to see the procedures for WP:Requested moves (focus on the procedure for "controversial" moves as you can't count on universal agreement) and prepare a formal move request. If you do, I'd recommend that you consider my first set of remarks and, rather than wording it as a diatribe, compose your request in a neutral tone and base it on objective criteria, which are primarily going to involve the guidelines provided by WP:COMMONNAME, which you ought to familiarize yourself with.

Before you do that, though, you should know that the same proposal was already considered in 2016 and failed. For that reason, you should be aware of the arguments that were made on both sides and consider whether you can come up with a more persuasive (Wikipedia guidelines-based) argument than anyone did on that occasion that will produce a successful outcome. That discussion is at /Archive 3#Requested move 19 January 2016. Largoplazo (talk) 23:17, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Before seeing your protest here, I was actually just about to change the spelling to "Yazidi(s)(m)" throughout the article, for consistency. I'm going to hold off on that to see if a move request appears in the next few days, in which case of course I'll wait till that reaches its conclusion. Otherwise, I'll proceed with my plan. Largoplazo (talk) 23:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

It's spelled Iranian. "iranic" is a pejorative slur.

Who locked this article and misspells Iranian for a pejorative slur?

Who locked this article, misspells Iranian and in its stead uses a pejorative slur? Sickofthisbs (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Why do you think the locking has anything to do with the use of the word "Iranic"?

Can you provide evidence that it's a "pejorative slur" as opposed to just an alternative term that, if nothing else, at least allows for differentiation between being from the country of Iran and being from one of the group of related peoples? For what it's worth, see Iranian peoples#Iranian vs. Iranic. Largoplazo (talk) 23:25, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm reading an earlier comment by you on this, Looking at the facts and the purpose of the newly crafted term "Iranic", it can easily be regarded as a pejorative slur. I'm reading this an acknowledgement that one can choose to claim that a term is a slur whether it is one or not. But "slur" refers to intent. If you don't like a word, for some reason, then you simply don't like it. That doesn't make it a slur. Largoplazo (talk) 23:36, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 October 2023

I want to add a minor edit to this article which is adding Kurdistan Region to the Governorate of Duhok because it’s located in Kurdistan Region Yeszzzz (talk) 14:17, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@Yeszzzz: what particularly in this article should be changed? Both of those places are mentioned in the article. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:04, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

If you can add Duhok as an Kurdistan Region province because it’s written only as Iraqi Yeszzzz (talk) 14:03, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect translation of kelb-perest

In the section Ottoman Period, the word 'kelb-perest' is incorrectly translated as 'dog worshippers'. Kelb-perest means 'the one who obeys his desires.' Al-Quran mentions them as people who follow their desires. Such people are mentioned in many verses in Al-Quran, namely, [2:120],[2:145],[13:37],[28:50],[30:29],[54:3],[5:77], [6:150],[45:18]. The word has a Persian origin. Kindly correct it.

Regards, Muhammad Adil Khan Adil7343 (talk) 18:46, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 January 2024

lemme edit cuz theres a lot of run on sentences PatelRap (talk) 04:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Not done You can request an experienced editor review the writing at WP:GOCE.  // Timothy :: talk  05:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)