Talk:Winter Olympic Games

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All time table edit

I find the all time table a bit dubious. Usually, at least here, Russia is considered a successor to the USSR. Legally it is. I don't know whether the IOC has a particular stance on it regarding medal count, but it feels weird to me. A similar thing can be said about Germany (and was in the archives in 2005) becoming merged with West Germany, since they are actually the same country. To expand: there never was a country "West Germany", nor "East Germany", these weren't even official shorthands, just useful monikers. They were the Federal Republic of Germany and the German Democratic Republic respectively (Thus FRG and GDR). In 1990, the GDR dissolved and its territory joined the FRG. The FRG exists to this day, it had the same Olympic Committee as the pre-reunification FRG, so it can be argued that the scores should be combined in the total count. The change of name and olympic shorthand is just that we can now use "Germany" and "GER" without ambiguity, no official name anywhere was changed. The table however says it uses official data from the IOC, but there's no link and I wasn't able to find it on the IOC site. At the very least, the description of West Germany as "defunct nation" is utterly wrong in every aspect. --Ulkomaalainen (talk) 15:04, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

I get your point, but the IOC's website lists Russia, USSR, Unified Team, and Olympic Athletes From Russia separately. This is a link to the IOC's guide to ice hockey gold medallists, which is perhaps the most egregious example of this phenomenon given the country's success in that event.
https://www.olympic.org/ice-hockey/ice-hockey-men?fbclid=IwAR1g0m5F7HXbGN3TGTXAKSpQwWlX8dwXR85hAApYgizXBwEVaJ0jPfXvImw
68.129.148.70 (talk) 18:37, 15 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
If you include the medals won by Germany when it was divided between West Germany and East Germany, Germany would be on top of the All-time Winter Olympic Games medal table not Norway and if you include the medals won by Russia when it was part of the Soviet Union, Russia would be ahead of the USA as well so therefore in reality they should be Germany 1st, Norway 2nd, Russia 3rd and the USA 4th.141.8.119.87 (talk) 08:50, 17 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Needs a key. edit

Section. List of Winter Olympic Games.

There’s no key.

What are S, D, C, E, N, TN?

Competitors (number), Events, Nations... I’m still stuck on S, D, TN: Sports, Disciplines, Top Nation?

MBG02 (talk) 03:31, 21 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Table links edit

It seems to me that the links in the table headed “list of Winter Olympics games” should link to the pages for the respective Games, rather than to the host city pages. The geographical cities would be the appropriate link if the table were a list of host cities, but it isn’t, and most visitors to such a table will be looking for information about the Winter Olympics. MapReader (talk) 05:49, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Click on the first column in the table, for example "XXIV" for the Beijing games. It wasn't obvious to me, either, and I'm debating changing the column order to put the year first, which would make the "No." more obvious that it's clickable. ReferenceMan (talk) 20:16, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

medal table edit

the medal table contains three times Germany. One is for West-Germany, one for East-Germany and one for the united Germany since 1990. It makes no sense to count it not alltogether, Olympics should not be about past politics. Both East and West Germany is Germany. The medal winners were Germans. If an East German athlet won a medal it was a German. After 1990 the same athlet was a citizen of Germany. If a West German won a medal he did not change his citizenship, he did not even need to get a new passport! In This medal table you count him on the West German list. All what is now Germany has been completely West- or East Germany. This medal table here needs to be fairly corrected. If You count all german medals in the Germany list, then it is apparent that Germany is number one of all nations in the winter Olympics. This should correctly be shown on this medal table. The same correction needs the summer Olympic medal table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomanNies (talkcontribs) 23:21, 19 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

It is factually incorrect that a single German team won all the medals that three separate teams won. The IOC used three different abbreviations; FRG, DDR, and the modern GER. The US team does not include the Puerto Rico team even though Puerto Rico is a US territory; we don't combine them. The same goes for Germany. We should do what reliable sources do. 331dot (talk) 23:31, 19 February 2022 (UTC)Reply