Gang start date

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PAY ATTENTION if you are going to add information to the webpage. White fence DID NOT start in 1911. The book says that the gang *claims* that it started in 1911 however, this does not reflect reality and does not hold up to even basic research. MzNobody (talk) 16:24, 1 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Civility is a pillar of Wikipedia. I didn't see the references in the body. tedder (talk) 16:31, 1 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

I am being civil. Obviously by failing to properly read the article you failed to see the proper in text citations and references thus changing the page back to reflect inaccurate and flawed information that the previous poster added without actually paying attention to what the book actually says. I've read the book and it says that the gang itself claims they go back to 1911, but they don't. No research indicates this claim. To settle the dispute I have added five references and citations. Most research indicates that White Fence did not take on actual street gang characteristics until 1944. MzNobody (talk) 17:01, 1 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sorry if it seems as though I was not being civil. MzNobody (talk) 04:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Outside scope of WikiProject Law Enforcement

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I have removed the banner for WikiProject Law Enforcement because the scope of that project specifically excludes "Crime and criminology, sociology, law, and similar topics that are related to police work but are more concerned with society or the criminal justice system overall than law enforcement alone." Basically, while Law Enforcement might investigate crime and criminal organizations, those organisations are criminal constructs, not Law Enforcement constructs. The two are different. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:59, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply