Talk:Water fluoridation by country

The Netherlands

The reference that The Netherlands supplements with fluoride drops and pills does not work [1]. The document [2] does not say anything about the use of fluoride drops and pills in The Netherlands. For sure Dutch people use them but as Dutch my experience is that toothpaste with fluoride is more common. Unfortunately, I do not have a reference.

I added some important reasoning why The Netherlands are not fuoridising drinking water. E.J.Hoekstra (talk) 19:00, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protection

I have requested semi-protection for this page. Greenman (talk) 08:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Availability of Fluoridated and Non-Fluoridated Salt

In the countries that have fluoride in the salt, can people easily buy non-fluoridated salt also?CountMacula (talk) 21:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

It is my impression that in recent years it has become increasingly difficult -at least in certain regions of Germany- to buy unfluoridated salt. Many stores offer only the fluoridated variety. -- Tren (talk) 19:55, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Dead Links

Reference 38 for Croatia is a dead link - it seems the website was purchased by someone else. What's the policy for addressing dead links that cannot be found? JoBaWik (talk) 14:03, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Australia

Some mention must be made of the dangers of heavy metals in Australian (and possibly other) fluoride sources from fertilizer plants. Perhaps a link to a page on fluoridation toxicity concerns would be appropriate. See http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/fire-water/. Doug Goodman (talk) 20:24, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Canada

Brantford, Ontario, is not a province. Ontario is the province. Brantford is a city in the province of Ontario. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.10.224.148 (talk) 20:15, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Map of Canada

How about moving the map of the US down so that it isn't beside the section on Canada? The two are different places. Awien (talk) 01:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

NPOV?

This article sure seems to violate NPOV. Tons of reference to the benefits of fluoridation, and to water being "naturally fluoridated" (which is a made up nonsense phrase. Should water high in lead naturally be called "naturally leaded?" Of course not. Nor am I saying we should say "naturally contaminated with fluoride" - there's an in-between like "has naturally high fluoride levels" - doesn't imply some higher power added it for our health, but also doesn't portray them as dangerous). That decision needs to be for the reader to make, and they sure would seem sway to fluoridation by this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StarlitGlitter (talk • contribs) 11:37, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure that "has naturally high fluoride levels" is an improvement. That suggests that the fluoride levels where it occurs naturally are alarmingly high. How about simply referring to "water naturally containing fluoride"? Skinsmoke (talk) 08:32, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

I made Skinsmoke's suggested change and went over the entire article to edit for neutrality. I don't believe it any longer violates NPOV. User:Rebecca_hare 07:53, 19 June 2014 (CDT)

Israel

Someone insists on removing commentary from public health officials and medical professionals criticizing the change in Israeli policy regarding mandatory water fluoridation. It places WP:UNDUE weight to the government position when the opposition is systematically removed. Yobol (talk) 18:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Quite the contrary. Government policy has had Weight when it was fluoridating, and it still has Weight, now that policy has changed. Certainly a mention of the opposition view should be there (as i have left it), but should not have Undue-weight in the paragraphLarryTheShark (talk) 18:50, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

If you read the source, the vast majority of the article describes the opposition to German's position. By removing details about that opposition, you are not giving due weight as described by the source. Yobol (talk) 19:02, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I was the one who wrote and added that paragraph in the Water fluoridation controversy article. i added 7 references. You removed 6 out of 7 sources in order to justify your Due-weight argument. Totally POV driven LarryTheShark (talk) 20:13, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Larry, I feel you have not understood what undue weight means. It is not about how many references currently support a statement, but rather how the content reflects the weighting of opinions on an issue in the available literature as a whole. Example would be if 70% of sources in the wider literature said X, then just because someone adds a long selection of sources which say Y, does not mean that the article has due weight. Hope that makes more sense. Regards, Lesion 22:34, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I am restoring the official statement made by the Israeli Ministry of Health upon the 2014 cessation of water fluoridation there, which statement was removed and replaced with a supposed summary. The "summary" omitted key points of the government's position. The official statement is only four lines long. It is itself a summary. It lays out the government's exact reasons for stopping fluoridation, clearly and succinctly, and does not require any further summary. Moreover, nothing is more important than these four lines in understanding the current state of the water fluoridation issue in Israel.CountMacula (talk) 14:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

There has been another destructive edit to Israel's statement about its reasons for stopping fluoridation. This is the second such edit, done without discussion. The editor claimed the edit was to "remove extraneous commentary about Israel's perception ...". This is not commentary about Israel's perception. It IS a point stated officially by Israel as to why Israel has stopped fluoridation, and is therefore of interest. The text in question is one line long, part of the complete official statement, which is four lines long. Therefore I am restoring the line so as to complete the official statement.CountMacula (talk) 16:35, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

While the reasons this ministry gives is germane, their guess at why the rest of the world does or does not fluoridate is not appropriate here. Please get consensus before readding. Yobol (talk) 17:00, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Ireland

The Ireland section is disingenious, most water fluoridation decisions in the world are decided locally, ireladn is one of the few that the decision ins made nationally. Also they don't use HFSA , they use fluorspar/ fluorsisic acid which is mined directly in spain also "The ethical approval for this was given by the "Guild of Saints Luke, Cosmas and Damian", established by Catholic Archbishop of Dublin, John Charles McQuaid.[54]" is a complete fabrication and is not reflected in the reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.155.189.86 (talk) 17:52, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I found a link to the Report of the Forum on Fluoridation and put it in the article. In it I do find the claim regarding the Guild of Saints Luke, Cosmas and Damian.CountMacula (talk) 16:04, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

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