Talk:Victoria & Abdul

Sequel?

The lead states that the film is a sequel to Mrs Brown. Is there any evidence for this beyond Judi Dench playing Queen Victoria in both films. I see nothing concrete to say that the films are in any other way connected expect on superficial levels. --Killer Moff (talk) 22:16, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

You're right. It's been referred to as an 'unofficial sequel' and a 'sort-of sequel' elsewhere http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20170905-film-review-victoria-and-abdul http://www.empireonline.com/movies/victoria-abdul/review/ but it can't really be called a sequel, which is something that continues or expands upon an earlier story, and this film patently doesn't. True, there's a pejorative reference by a character in the film to Abdul being a 'brown John Brown', but that doesn't mean the film can be seen as an actual sequel. In truth, I'd be wary of Wikipedia calling it an unofficial or sort-of sequel, either, although maybe an acknowledgement of that could be made in the Reception section, using the above links. Cybersub (talk) 12:14, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

It is not an official sequel but are in fact an historic sequel as Dench plays the queen and in the same historical era.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:41, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Historical inaccuracies

Victoria refers to herself several times as "Queen of England", a title that had not existed since 1707. Her main title throughout her reign was "Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland", adding in 1876 "Empress of India". The error makes nonsense of the film's emphasis on her loving to spend time at a palace in Scotland and renders irrelevant the Prime Minister's report to her of problems in Ireland.

She also refers to herself as queen over nearly a billion "citizens", while the term in British nationality law until 1948 was "subjects".

Both errors seem to have been introduced for the benefit of American audiences. Errantius (talk) 23:07, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

The more glaring error is Albert, the Prince of Wales, future Edward VII complaining of sharing a bathroom with Queen Victoria, saying, "I am 57 years old." However, he was only 46, since Victoria married Albert AFTER assuming the throne. I'm not sure why the reason to make him older than he is, but in that "new" timeline he would have died before his own mother, since he died at 68 years old. Deliusfan (talk) 02:27, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Shamir?

This edit alters the long-standing infobox head without explanation or source, so I've changed it back to "Victoria & Abdul". Bjenks (talk) 23:12, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Turned out that this was but one element in a spurt of vandalism.Bjenks (talk) 00:41, 20 July 2022 (UTC)