Talk:VMLY&R

Record Album

They also released an environmental record album in Canada in 1973 called "Earth Air & Water"2607:FEA8:1360:7B3:10B3:EB3F:22AC:A7DF (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:11, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Conflict of interest editors

Leading editors of this article are either known to or are very likely to work for VMLY&R, or work for a firm that competes with VMLY&R.

1. User:204.10.132.7 - 5,227 characters (24.9%) - Repeatedly warned about conflict of interest editing; IP address resolves to Group M Worldwide, LLC (a subsidiary/sister company of VMLY&R); since 2008, editor has worked on articles about VMLY&R, Wunderman Thompson (subsidiary/sister), WPP plc (parent), Tony Granger (WPP executive), shoehorned a mention of Listening Platform (a Wunderman service), and addressed other subjects that are likely clients of the agency.
2. User:Wikijd816 - 2,730 characters (13%) - While this user has disclosed that they are being paid by VMLY&R to edit Wikipedia, they have never engaged on the Talk page of this article before making unilateral changes to the article, which include "promotional" language insertions like "VMLY&R was named one of the Top 20 healthcare marketing agencies by Medical, Marketing and Media (MM&M) magazine", "During 2019, its first full year as a united entity, VMLY&R grew its health revenue to $100 million. That represents an 11% jump over the $90 million generated by the predecessor organizations in 2018", "offer truly integrated online and offline services", and "boasted an impressive client list".
3. User:Seriousuli - 823 characters (3.9%) - Warned about conflict of interest editing; between 2012 and 2013 exclusively edited about VMLY&R (perhaps as a competitor, seeking to insert criticism), then in April 2018 edited nothing but articles related to Havas (a competitor).
4. User:AndyBVolcom - 696 characters (3.3%) - Account blocked for abusing multiple accounts.

The article therefore may be biased by a conflict of interest, and we request help from other unaffiliated editors to improve the article to meet Wikipedia's standards of neutral point of view. - AppleBsTime (talk) 15:47, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

What in the effing heck is my name doing on this list - all I did was format the refs. Please remove my name from this bad faith post. MarnetteD|Talk 15:50, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought that the comment "Project-minded editor in good standing" underscored that you are the opposite of the COI concern here. I can remove the non-COI names, if you think that's better. I would equally ask that you retract your claim that my post was in bad faith. - AppleBsTime (talk) 16:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up A. I would suggest removing the names of those editors you have listed as "In good standing" to avoid any body else being as confused as I was - oh wait I see you've done that while I was typing this. Thank You. MarnetteD|Talk 16:04, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

— User:Wikijd816 update: Removed this copy and replaced with the following: "In October 2018, the Sudler network combined with VMLY&R, creating VMLY&R Health. In early 2020, Medical, Marketing and Media (MM&M) magazine ranked VMLY&R as No. 18 for North American revenue of healthcare marketing agencies." Happy to revise further, if needed. Sorry, just reading now that I should have suggested the edit on the talk page first. Will do that in the future for changes. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.28.83.14 (talk) 16:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

References

Request edit on 29 January 2022

• What I think should be changed: Change the word "American" to "global." Additionally, the number of employees should be changed from 7,000 to "more than 12,000."
• Why it should be changed: VMLY&R is a global company with 100+ offices in 44 countries and more than 12,000 employees.
• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://www.vmlyr.com (near the bottom of the page with a blue map

Wikijd816 (talk) 23:30, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Not done: Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to make. casualdejekyll 02:38, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

References

Proposed merge of VML (agency) into VMLY&R

Doesn't seem like there's the sourcing required for a standalone article to be suitable. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

• Don't merge - VML is the result of a recent merger between two large agencies, themselves the result of mergers: the first agency Wunderman Thompson was formed when Wunderman and J. Walter Thompson merged, and the second agency VMLY&R was formed when an earlier version of VML merged with Young & Rubicam. The article's writer @Uncle Shep: can confirm, but from what I'm reading, it appears to be a merger of equals, so it doesn't make sense to point readers back to either discontinued component. This source says that as a result of this merger, VML is now the world's largest creative agency. Seems like we'll see more news down the road. For Uncle Shep and any others connected with VML, ping me if there's any new notable coverage and I can add it. STEMinfo (talk) 00:09, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Closing given that the discussion is stale, and there has been and objection and no support. Klbrain (talk) 12:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC)