Talk:United States national rugby union team

Cleanup?

Why was the Cleanup message added just then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurst553 (talk • contribs)

The article is full of incorrect grammar, diction, and has a general unencyclopedic tone. It's also missing the necessary citations. I plan on working on it, but the tag lets other Wikipedians know that the article needs to be cleaned up. It also lets the reader know that the article is a mess hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 23:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I see, I only added the bit about the Eagles qualifying for 07 but plan to add some more though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurst553 (talk • contribs)

Excellent! You might want to check out WP:RU, by the way. It's a Wikiproject where dozens of rugby fans collaborate on rugby related articles. Cheers hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 23:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow thats great thanks alot. and I see what you mean now with the article; the first history section actually has nothing to do with the national team at all, and the post-war era is too short and all out of order. as you said it needs work :) User:Hurst553

All the histories of all the national teams begin with a short explanation of the introduction of rugby. The first international game did not take place in a vacuum and nor do international games generally. The advent of Super 12 had a huge impact on Aus / NZ / SA rugby and their articles refer to it accordingly. Any event which had a major impact of US rugby should be noted and this would include the development of the separate sport of Gridiron.

The history section is the best that can be written usingly only the internet as a source. It needs expanding but you would probably need a written source in order to do so.GordyB 14:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Mascot

I uploaded a photo of the team's mascot and was considering adding it to the article. However, I noticed that there is no mention of the mascot anywhere in the article. Anybody have an opinion on whether the mascot is worthy of inclusion?

Mwboyer (talk) 15:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Flags

Why do you use the flag where the player was born, and not the flag of the country they play for? SirEdimon (talk) 21:19, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Players / Recent call ups

I have deleted several players listed in this section who have never played for the US. Many of the listed players have publicly stated their intent to play for a different country, some have been called into camp for a different country, some had turned down a call-up to the US team.

I don't think those players should be listed here for the following reasons:

1. This section of the page is about US players, so if an athlete has not played for the US, he doesn't belong here.
2. If we expand the list to include other eligible players, then this becomes a list without any real criteria and without limit. There are thousands of rugby players eligible to play for the US, and I don't see what criteria we would use when deciding which eligible players to include here.
3. If editors are adding names of athletes they think might play for the US in the future, that sort of speculation does not belong in an encyclopedia (See WP:CRYSTALBALL).
4. If editors are adding names of athletes because they would like to see them play for the US, again this does not belong in an encyclopedia (See WP:ILIKEIT).
5. I looked at Wiki pages of other major national rugby teams (and some major national soccer teams) and I didn't find a single one that listed athletes who might play for that country some day but have not yet played for that country.

I posted this to see if others had different views and to see if we can reach consensus. So if others agree or disagree, please chime in, and explain your reasons why. Barryjjoyce (talk) 02:02, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

You deleted my edit due to the 'over use of colour making it hard to read'

Can I ask how my edit to the Recent Results table on the United States national rugby union team made it hard to read? the table now looks in-cohesive and inconsistant. for example two of the 'wins' have a green colouring but the rest don't. the green and red are also very light so as to not clash with the black text. unless of course you are colour blind or are worried about colour blind readers in which case I can understand your concerns. I have changed the table back to my previous edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grickles (talk • contribs) 11:34, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

@Grickles: I have moved your comments onto this talk page, so let's continue the discussion here.

The Wikipedia consensus described at MOS:COLOR discourages the use of color in the way you suggest:

"Even for readers with unimpaired color vision, excessive background shading of table entries impedes readability and recognition of Wikilinks. Background color should be used only as a supplementary visual cue, and should be subtle (consider using lighter, less-dominant pastel hues) rather than a glaring spotlight."

I feel quite strongly that the table was better before your changes. When the entire table is bathed with color, the reader tends to notice only the color and not the content of the table. The limited use of color that you ask about is explained in the notes below the table — the color is used to denote an upset.

Also, I appreciate the fact that you raised this issue through the talk page, but I don't think it constructive for you to try to revert the article and make the same change again. That violates WP:BRD, and that's how edit wars get started. Barryjjoyce (talk) 01:34, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in United States national rugby union team

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of United States national rugby union team's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Scotland":

• From 2017 end-of-year rugby union internationals: "Scotland secure full houses for RBS 6 Nations & welcome the All Blacks for autumn 2017 series". Scottishrugby.org. 24 January 2017. Retrieved 25 January 2017.
• From 2019 Rugby World Cup warm-up matches: "FRANCE-ECOSSE". FÉDÉRATION FRANÇAISE DE RUGBY. 9 May 2018. Archived from the original on 15 May 2018. Retrieved 8 May 2019. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
• From 2018 end-of-year rugby union internationals: "Scotland add new fixture to 2018 calendar". 19 January 2018. Retrieved 1 February 2018.

Reference named "USA":

• From ESPN: Hiestand, Michael (March 7, 2008). "Dedicated staff keeps close watch on ESPN's Bottom Line". USA Today. Retrieved March 27, 2008.
• From 2018 June rugby union tests: "Men's Eagles land in Denver and Houston for 2018 Emirates Airline Summer Series". 8 February 2018. Retrieved 9 February 2018.
• From 2017 end-of-year rugby union internationals: "Georgia, Germany on U.S. itinerary for 2017 November Tour". Usarugby.org. 21 July 2017. Retrieved 22 July 2017.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:11, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Error in number of matches against Canada

“As of the end of 2019, the two sides have met 58 times, with 22 wins for the U.S., 38 wins for Canada, and 2 draws.”

Summing the wins and draws comes to 62 matches, not 58. What is the source of the error here? And are current figures available? Sakkaden (talk) 20:53, 5 May 2023 (UTC)