Talk:Union of the Committees of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia

Two different Soldiers' Mothers organizations?

Are there two different "Soldiers' Mothers" organizations in Russia? I found "Union of the Committees of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia" and also "Soldiers mothers Organisation of Saint Petersburg". They have separete webpages: www.ucsmr.ru and www.soldiersmothers.ru . BTW. The first webpage tried give my computer virus, but luckily my antivirus software was awake. Peltimikko (talk) 10:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Trojan horse with the first link to the english homepage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.40.56.84 (talk) 09:38, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Voloteer Marek is one lazy anti-Russian troll

He claims that Soldiers's Mothers was 'punished' for its statements alleging Russian military role in Ukraine. These comments were made in late August. But the group had in fact been asked to register as a foreign agent in July.

Marek didn't bother to read the article he "referenced". Soldiers' Mothers NGO Appeals for Removal of 'Foreign Agent' Label Keverich2 (talk) 13:59, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

• I* don't claim this. A reliable source claims it. And yes I read the article, and then added another which also said the same thing.

Now, if you're going to try and insult somebody you could at least take care to spell their username correctly. Volunteer Marek  20:56, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

If you're not a troll, why do you act like one: reverting my edits with no explanation?

According to the Russian law, the label of foreign agent is given to the NGOs, that accept foreign money. The notion that labelling was done in responce to some controversy is just speculation. It should not stated in the wiki as a fact. Now take a break from your anti-Russia crusade and read this:

Soldiers' Mothers NGO Appeals for Removal of 'Foreign Agent' Label

The timing of the ministry's decision prompted speculation by some that the group was being punished for making such loaded statements, but the group had in fact been asked to register as a foreign agent in July, long before those comments were made, according to Kommersant.

^^^this is from the actual source.Keverich2 (talk) 05:51, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Somehow you're missing the "according to Kommersant" part. In other words, the source does not say this was true just that a newspaper (one which has been successfully sued for libel in the past) made that claim.

Here's another article, same source, which makes the link explicit:

"soon after the petition was filed to the Investigative Committee, a law enforcement body that answers only to President Vladimir Putin, Polyakova was told her organisation, which has existed since the 1991 break-up of the Soviet Union, had been branded a "foreign agent.""

Creating this "foreign agent" status is obviously POV. It's also running close to violating WP:BLP.

Also, why are you putting in the "primary sources" tag into the article. There are no primary sources being used.

Finally, I strongly suggest you 1) cut it out with the personal attacks and 2) change the name of this section, or per the warning on your talk page, I'll have to file an WP:AE report. Volunteer Marek  06:30, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Kommersant is a major Russian newspaper. Definitely a reliabe source.Keverich2 (talk) 07:07, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

"Asked to register as foreign agent in July, branded in August. No contradition here.Keverich2 (talk) 07:07, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

That's your problem. You've been engaged in agitation for so long, you no longer seem to know the difference between POV and a fact. ::::Soldier's Mothers is 'foreign agent' - that a FACT. I didn't create this status. It has been branded this way in Russia.Keverich2 (talk) 07:07, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I won't be bullied in this fashion.Keverich2 (talk) 07:07, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

1) Not so sure. Reliable sources usually don't get sued for libel and loose. At any rate, the member of the organization clearly believes that this was in retaliation.

2) Drop the personal attacks. I am not going to ask you again. Volunteer Marek  07:17, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Kommersant is a reputable Russian newspaper, and you have no reason not to trust it, unless you have some proplem with the Russian media. It does not matter that members "believe". That's their personal opinion, and opinions should not be stated as a fact (basic rule of neutrality)

Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Explanation_of_the_neutral_point_of_view

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please add

Category:Right Livelihood Award laureates — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.114.255.122 (talk) 15:59, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Seems like a good idea to create Category:Right Livelihood Award laureates, but first you should create the category. See WP:CREATECAT. And then start adding this laureate and others to the category. Boud (talk) 19:43, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Current director (2022)?

See Talk:Olga I. Larkina#Mothers' Committee. Boud (talk) 00:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)