Talk:Tommy Robinson (activist)/Archive 6
Latest comment: 1 month ago by Slatersteven in topic His dad was English
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British or English
Should he be described as "British" or "English"? He has had affiliations with the British National Party and the British Freedom Party, but also with the English Defence League. The Categories predominantly use "English", as those are more specific. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- He can be both, so lets go with what RS say. Slatersteven (talk) 14:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- So I guess that's going to be non-UK RS, as UK sources typically don't need to use either? Or are perhaps just too embarrassed. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Whoever. Slatersteven (talk) 14:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- NYT calls him British as does CNN. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Then so do we. Slatersteven (talk) 14:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Quite a small sample there. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- True, but its down to anyone who disagrees to find counter examples. Slatersteven (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. We'll see what happens. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Always best to use nationality, so British. Though, didn't I read that he had Irish background....? Emeraude (talk) 15:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- "He says that his parents were Irish immigrants"? If we believe him, then that might open up a whole new fresh can of nationality worms? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- If he was born in the UK, he is a British citizen. I would avoid the term English because it is ambiguous. He doesn't meet the definition of English that he supports. TFD (talk) 06:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Martin - are you trying to say he is not British because his mother* (not father) is Irish? That sounds racist - can you clear that up? Ohok1 (talk) 18:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Ohok1", how does one "clear up" an unsubstantiated claim made by someone like Yaxley-Lennon? Why should he not be British? Is that January 2010 interview with Victoria Derbyshire, on BBC Radio 5 Live, still available online somewhere, or even a transcript? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- "He says that his parents were Irish immigrants"? If we believe him, then that might open up a whole new fresh can of nationality worms? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Always best to use nationality, so British. Though, didn't I read that he had Irish background....? Emeraude (talk) 15:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. We'll see what happens. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- True, but its down to anyone who disagrees to find counter examples. Slatersteven (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Quite a small sample there. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Then so do we. Slatersteven (talk) 14:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- NYT calls him British as does CNN. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Whoever. Slatersteven (talk) 14:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- So I guess that's going to be non-UK RS, as UK sources typically don't need to use either? Or are perhaps just too embarrassed. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
His dad was English
It says in 'Early life' "He says that his parents were Irish immigrants." He doesn't, he says his mother was Irish, and his father was English; https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10389954/Who-is-the-real-Tommy-Robinson.html, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCCioFzgpSs timestamp; 21:15 "my mums an immigrant." Ohok1 (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I've used that Telegraph source to replace the Victoria Derbyshire interview one and changed the claim. This YouTube video interview is not as useful as he just says "My Mum's an immigrant". Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:20, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- The interview is must see viewing though - the whole video just destroys the lefts argument that "tommys a racist!" he talks pure truth, and I think everyone is starting to see that. Islamisation is destroying this country. God bless Tommy Robinson. Ohok1 (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I managed a good 40 seconds. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:31, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Read wp:soap. Slatersteven (talk) 10:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- The interview is must see viewing though - the whole video just destroys the lefts argument that "tommys a racist!" he talks pure truth, and I think everyone is starting to see that. Islamisation is destroying this country. God bless Tommy Robinson. Ohok1 (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- He's changed his story over the years. I'll change the wording. TFD (talk) 03:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)