Talk:Tavistock Institute

Latest comment: 3 months ago by Luciente Grey in topic Update on current work of the Tavistock Institute

Conspiracy theories edit

Is this the tavistock inst. involved with brain washing and secret LSD thingies? or is it not included because there is little evidence to support it? (Benjabanup 20:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC))Reply

No, the Tavistock Institute is not involved in brain washing or LSD. If you take a look at its website, you'll get a good idea of what it does, and who its clients are. --Duncan 07:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
Duncan - so you're obviously not familiar with The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations by Dr. John Coleman? I suggest you give it a read. There is very good reason why the Tavistock institute resides within the City of London. It's rather humorous that you would assume the truth comes direct from the institute itself via its phony website. That's like me running a brothel but creating a nice, clean, friendly website that covers it up. Very easy to do.
Coleman's book is self-published, and is not a reputable source. I've been in the Institute. It's a tiny organisation with two open-plan office and no clinical work of any type.--Duncan (talk) 12:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)Reply
Regardless, it is the subject of conspiracy theories, which is part of why it´s so well known. I think the section on it should be reestablished. StrongALPHA (talk) 08:35, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Well shit, Duncan, if you have been there and YOU say it is legit, it must be. I feel so much better now.

LSD Research edit

This page seems lacking from what I've read and heard about Tavistock. If the LSD experiments and mind control experiments are indeed false, it should mention that these rumors have been disproved (and backed up with references). I'd like a better idea of some of the experiments they have been involved in, and perhaps some of their goals. There is no doubt there are Marxist ties to this organization judging from the current Wikipedia entry. It also mentions group psychology studies. What is their relationship to the whole LSD thing? In short, the current entry is quite vague about what this organization is all about. JettaMann 21:21, 27 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

I'm no expert, but I do know that the various Tavistock centers are easily confused. There's some mention of LSD experiments in Tavistock Clinic. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
The Tavistock Institute conducts no clinical reseach or any type, and it has no Marxist ties -- it stands in the heritage of Sigmund Freud and Melanie Klein. How on earth can you disprove these rumours? At one point, this article even argued that the Tavistock Institute owned the Hoover Institution. The whole point about conspiracy theories is that the proposers feel that the lack of proof validates them. That is not Wikipedia's approach: we need references to include something. --Duncan 11:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
More on this: Conspiracy theories are mostly [original research]]. We don't include that. To include rumours and then disprove them is not encyclopedic work, and would be mired in POV disputes. For example, I have also seen claims that the Wharton school of business is part of the Tavi: totally bizzare. --Duncan 13:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

I suppose like 99.9% percent of visitors to this wiki page come after they have read some sort of conspiracy literature. It might be fair to include any sort of reference to this fact. Even Harry Potter has it's own web page, although never existed. At least the reference could say that there is no proven fact that links TI and any sort of conspiracy. Or the reference could lead to a separate webpage "Travistok Institute (Conspiracy)". Consider it as a sort of fiction that deserves disambiguation. I think it is just silly to have a huge scroll of consipracy discussion here and have no single word on the page itself. Actually even if the real Travistok instutute never existed, it's fictional counterpart already deserves a separate page, isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

No role in the creation of Israel edit

Among the various urban legends surrounding the Tavistock Institute, one of the more interesting stories is the assertion that Tavistock played a significant role in the creation of the State of Israel in 1948. It would be interesting any of our editors would be able to research these claims. [1] ADM (talk) 19:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

This is a very painful article. It doesn't actually claim, despite the title, that the Tavistock Institute played any role in the creation of Israel - let alone have any references we can use. However, it brings together a number of conspiracy theories which are original research.--Duncan (talk) 11:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

wikipedia has been infiltrated by tavistock shills. lmao. godlikeproductions IS owned by tavistock. that's not up for debate. mad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:39, 17 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

There are no reliable references to support that claim. --Duncan (talk) 13:37, 7 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

On adding segment about being a target of conspiracy theorists edit

I encountered the name of the Institute in a joke linking some idea to be as wild as someone claiming a plot by Tavistock. I came here and found nothing, searching you get over 47,000 hits on the topic. So I have found notable and reliable cites that do not perpetuate any claims against the Institute but do give some brief explanation of what is going on. I would argue that running into these theories as wild as they maybe is how most people will know that the Institute even exists and it makes sense to give some info on that here. It is not necessary to give any validity to the theories but I would hold that they are notable enough to get a mention that the theories exist. ---Wowaconia (talk) 18:13, 13 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Update on current work of the Tavistock Institute edit

Hello wikipedia, I put some recent details about the work that the Tavistock Institute does to try and give a fuller picture of it and because one of the charitable objectives is to share knowledge and information. I moved the current work section up so readers get a sense of that before diving into the history. I hope that's all okay and I would like to disclose that I am employed there. Luciente Grey (talk) 18:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply