Talk:Seeds of Destruction (book)

Latest comment: 4 years ago by PaleoNeonate in topic Neutrality issues

Neutrality issues edit

This article is borderline with WP:FRINGE issues. The most predominant is that while there is a reception section, everything here is sort of praising the theory promoted, which is a fringe theory. As it has coverage I suspect this book is a notable topic, but I simply do not believe that biased coverage is all it has, and that someone doing a book review of this has challenged the notions in the book as well. If we are going to cover this book encyclopedically, we need to explore all facets. Red Phoenix talk 16:45, 5 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Also why are no scientists quoted as to their reception of the book?Slatersteven (talk) 15:19, 1 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • Slatersteven - I tried to punch up some of the grammar but to be honest it's a little hard for me to parse. I will try and find some scientific research on this book but to be honest it's kind of bonkers so there might not be that many scientists who will bother to debunk what amounts to a rather generic conspiracy theory. Michepman (talk) 03:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Its why I deleted some stuff, I just could not figure out what it was meant to say.Slatersteven (talk) 12:17, 2 October 2019 (UTC).Reply
    • @Michepman: I had a look yesterday and yes you're right. I'd suggest a merge and redirect to the author's article as this doesn't meet WP:NBOOK. SmartSE (talk) 09:48, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
      • SmartSE (talk · contribs), Slatersteven (talk · contribs) — I did try to do some external research into the book and what this says does seem pretty accurate as far as it goes. At least, it lined up with the descriptions of the book given on the author’s own page and on Amazon. I’m not sure how to assess its notability though. There are some citations to it in actual academic papers that I’ve seen on Semantic Scholar but I don’t know if that counts. Michepman (talk) 16:24, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
        • I agree that the content of this page should be merged with a redirect into the F. William Engdahl page. It does not meet the requirements of WP:NBOOK. I also think that the lead of the Engdahl page should be changed from "...is an American writer based in Germany" to "...is an American conspiracy theorist based in Germany". --Guy Macon (talk) 19:59, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
    You may be right: I have trouble to find reliable sources with a critical review or describing it as conspiracy theories, despite it not being a recent book. It probably does not meet WP:NBOOK and I would thus support deletion at an AfD. —PaleoNeonate – 06:31, 4 October 2019 (UTC)Reply